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[Spooky spoon]

Hell everyone.  I started my first wood model, the Occre albatross a few months ago, and I bought the Occre polaris as well.  I probably should have done the polaris first 😂.  Its been going pretty well, but I'm nervous about starting the masts and rigging.   I'm also looking for suggestions about books to buy that will be helpful, and tools that I need, because I don't actually own anything shown in the pictures.   I kind of screwed up the cannon ports, and I would greatly appreciate any advice regarding making them look less lopsided without ruining the model.  I'm also looking for suggestions for a 3rd model.  I really like the look of the Occre golden hind, but I'm not sure how historically accurate it is.

 

Edited April 19, 2021 by Spooky spoon

[ccoyle]

Hello, Spooky.

 

Welcome aboard! Your project is looking good so far. It's true that Polaris would have been easier, but not greatly so. Albatros (if I'm thinking of the right kit) is a topsail schooner, so the rigs will be similar, except that Albatros will have one or two square-rigged sails -- not too much to worry about. Rigging can be daunting, but no more so than double-planking a hull for the first time. Make sure to read through all the instructions and diagrams, and think of the task as a series of concrete steps. OcCre's photo instructions and diagrams are usually pretty good and should be a big help during the process. As for your gun ports, they're not half bad; perhaps a little work with a square or flat file will square them to your liking.

 

As for a third model, any model of Golden Hinde will be pure conjecture on the designer's part. Reliable source material from that time period is notoriously sparse. If that's the sort of vessel that appeals to you, I'm sure it will be within your abilities once you have completed your first two projects.

 

Good luck!

[JeffT]

Welcome to MSW. It looks like you're done good work so far.

[Keith Black]

SS, welcome to MSW. Stow your gear in a build log and join us for the journey. 

[mtaylor]

[Baker]

2 hours ago, Spooky spoon said:

I really like the look of the Occre golden hind, but I'm not sure how historically accurate it is.

First, welcome to MSW. Nice work

 

The occre Golden hind is a copy of the replica in London. Not historically correct, but actually no model of this ship is correct (neither is mine)
Nobody knows what this ship ever looked like.

 

If you like the occre GH model,  then you build this one
Personally, I like the Dusek GH model more.

 

Good luck

 

 

[Spooky spoon]

38 minutes ago, Backer said:

Personally, I like the Dusek GH model more.

After looking at it, i think I agree with you, although the Occre kit looks a lot more ornate near the back, which I like.  I'll worry about that decision once I get through my current models 😀.

Edited April 19, 2021 by Spooky spoon

[Spooky spoon]

2 hours ago, JJT said:

Welcome to MSW. It looks like you're done good work so far.

Thank you very much, I'm starting to feel better about my cannon ports.  The flaws are hardly visible when its on the shelf .

[Edwardkenway]

[Jim Lad]

Hello, and a warm welcome to the forum from 'Down Under'.

 

John

[bruce d]

Welcome aboard, Spooky, glad to have you. Nice work so far!

[GrandpaPhil]

Welcome!

[kramer]

Hey Spooky, I just joined MSW today and am also starting the Albatros by OcCre as my first build! Seems daunting. I'll be following your progress intently. I'm sure there'll be a lot of lessons I will learn from your build. Thanks for posting.

[Louie da fly]

Hi Spooky and welcome.

 

You're making good progress with your model. Keep it up!

 

Regarding Golden Hinde accuracy, firstly nobody knows exactly what she looked like. Any model is speculative, based on knowledge of her size and number of guns, plus contemporary information on ships of the time, including pictures. Any model claiming to be of the Golden Hinde is actually just a generic "typical Elizabethan galleon". But don't let that stop you - it's no more or less a accurate depiction of the ship than any other model.

 

One thing, though. She wouldn't have had a hind as a figurehead or on the stern transom - she started her voyage with Raleigh as the Pelican and wasn't renamed until she was partway through her journey.

 

If you want to get a good idea of the kind of vessel she would have been, see Backer's superbly researched Pelican/Hinde at 

 

Steven