Spooky spoon Posted April 19, 2021 Share #1 Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) Hell everyone. I started my first wood model, the Occre albatross a few months ago, and I bought the Occre polaris as well. I probably should have done the polaris first 😂. Its been going pretty well, but I'm nervous about starting the masts and rigging. I'm also looking for suggestions about books to buy that will be helpful, and tools that I need, because I don't actually own anything shown in the pictures. I kind of screwed up the cannon ports, and I would greatly appreciate any advice regarding making them look less lopsided without ruining the model. I'm also looking for suggestions for a 3rd model. I really like the look of the Occre golden hind, but I'm not sure how historically accurate it is. Edited April 19, 2021 by Spooky spoon Edwardkenway, catopower, GrandpaPhil and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted April 19, 2021 Share #2 Posted April 19, 2021 Hello, Spooky. Welcome aboard! Your project is looking good so far. It's true that Polaris would have been easier, but not greatly so. Albatros (if I'm thinking of the right kit) is a topsail schooner, so the rigs will be similar, except that Albatros will have one or two square-rigged sails -- not too much to worry about. Rigging can be daunting, but no more so than double-planking a hull for the first time. Make sure to read through all the instructions and diagrams, and think of the task as a series of concrete steps. OcCre's photo instructions and diagrams are usually pretty good and should be a big help during the process. As for your gun ports, they're not half bad; perhaps a little work with a square or flat file will square them to your liking. As for a third model, any model of Golden Hinde will be pure conjecture on the designer's part. Reliable source material from that time period is notoriously sparse. If that's the sort of vessel that appeals to you, I'm sure it will be within your abilities once you have completed your first two projects. Good luck! Edwardkenway, catopower, Keith Black and 2 others 5 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Bf 109E-7/trop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffT Posted April 19, 2021 Share #3 Posted April 19, 2021 Welcome to MSW. It looks like you're done good work so far. Keith Black, mtaylor and Edwardkenway 3 Quote Jeff In progress: Medway Longboat 1742 - Syren Ship Model Company -1/2" scale USS Constitution - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Granado - CAF Model - 1:48 HMS Sphinx - Vanguard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted April 19, 2021 Share #4 Posted April 19, 2021 SS, welcome to MSW. Stow your gear in a build log and join us for the journey. Edwardkenway and mtaylor 2 Quote Current Builds: 1870's Sternwheeler, Lula Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: 1880s Floating Steam Donkey Pile Driver Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted April 19, 2021 Share #5 Posted April 19, 2021 Edwardkenway and Keith Black 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted April 19, 2021 Share #6 Posted April 19, 2021 2 hours ago, Spooky spoon said: I really like the look of the Occre golden hind, but I'm not sure how historically accurate it is. First, welcome to MSW. Nice work The occre Golden hind is a copy of the replica in London. Not historically correct, but actually no model of this ship is correct (neither is mine) Nobody knows what this ship ever looked like. If you like the occre GH model, then you build this one Personally, I like the Dusek GH model more. Good luck Edwardkenway, mtaylor and Keith Black 3 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch große-jacht / Yacht D'Oro 1/50 Corel Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Cleaning the 1/72 military collection Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spooky spoon Posted April 19, 2021 Author Share #7 Posted April 19, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Backer said: Personally, I like the Dusek GH model more. After looking at it, i think I agree with you, although the Occre kit looks a lot more ornate near the back, which I like. I'll worry about that decision once I get through my current models 😀. Edited April 19, 2021 by Spooky spoon mtaylor, Baker, Edwardkenway and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spooky spoon Posted April 19, 2021 Author Share #8 Posted April 19, 2021 2 hours ago, JJT said: Welcome to MSW. It looks like you're done good work so far. Thank you very much, I'm starting to feel better about my cannon ports. The flaws are hardly visible when its on the shelf . mtaylor, Keith Black and JeffT 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edwardkenway Posted April 19, 2021 Share #9 Posted April 19, 2021 Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote Current builds; Henry Ramey Upcher 1:25 Providence whaleboat- 1:25 HMS Winchelsea 1764 1:48 Completed: HM Cutter Sherbourne- 1:64- finished Triton cross section scratch- 1:60 - finished Non ship: SBD-3 Dauntless 1:48 Hasegawa -FINISHED Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Lad Posted April 19, 2021 Share #10 Posted April 19, 2021 Hello, and a warm welcome to the forum from 'Down Under'. John Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce d Posted April 20, 2021 Share #11 Posted April 20, 2021 Welcome aboard, Spooky, glad to have you. Nice work so far! Keith Black and mtaylor 2 Quote 🌻 STAY SAFE A model shipwright and an amateur historian are heads & tails of the same coin current builds: HMS Berwick 1775, 1/192 scratchbuild; a Slade 74 in the Navy Board style Mediator sloop, 1/48 - an 18th century transport scratchbuild French longboat - CAF - 1/48, on hold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted April 21, 2021 Share #12 Posted April 21, 2021 Welcome! Keith Black 1 Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kramer Posted April 25, 2021 Share #13 Posted April 25, 2021 Hey Spooky, I just joined MSW today and am also starting the Albatros by OcCre as my first build! Seems daunting. I'll be following your progress intently. I'm sure there'll be a lot of lessons I will learn from your build. Thanks for posting. mtaylor and Keith Black 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louie da fly Posted April 26, 2021 Share #14 Posted April 26, 2021 Hi Spooky and welcome. You're making good progress with your model. Keep it up! Regarding Golden Hinde accuracy, firstly nobody knows exactly what she looked like. Any model is speculative, based on knowledge of her size and number of guns, plus contemporary information on ships of the time, including pictures. Any model claiming to be of the Golden Hinde is actually just a generic "typical Elizabethan galleon". But don't let that stop you - it's no more or less a accurate depiction of the ship than any other model. One thing, though. She wouldn't have had a hind as a figurehead or on the stern transom - she started her voyage with Raleigh as the Pelican and wasn't renamed until she was partway through her journey. If you want to get a good idea of the kind of vessel she would have been, see Backer's superbly researched Pelican/Hinde at Steven Keith Black, Baker and mtaylor 3 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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