allanyed Posted September 19, 2022 #121 Posted September 19, 2022 Caldercraft makes a great product so it is likely just me and the photo angle. Was just curious how they compared to the Lees formulas. Beautiful work!! Allan drobinson02199 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
drobinson02199 Posted September 23, 2022 Author #122 Posted September 23, 2022 Masts are now done and permanently mounted. Including the bowsprit, the masts have taken me just about a month. Now on to standing rigging. Regards, David The Gimps Chimp, kiwiron, src and 5 others 8 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck
drobinson02199 Posted September 29, 2022 Author #123 Posted September 29, 2022 Finished the main mast shrouds. While the instructions say to go on to the rest of the lower and upper shrouds, I'm going to do the ratlines on these first to inject some variety into the work. Regards, David vossy and Kingspoke 2 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck
vossy Posted September 29, 2022 #124 Posted September 29, 2022 Really nice David. Got any pics where you tie them off at the upper end? drobinson02199 1 Quote
drobinson02199 Posted September 29, 2022 Author #125 Posted September 29, 2022 Chris: Here you go. It's really a rats nest. Except for the 11th shroud, this is all two-shroud loops, tied off at the top with black thread. The manual says to push the knots up, but that's not really practical, so I thread it and then tie it in position. I also use that to try to manage the alignment of the shrouds as they come up to the mast tie-off. I used to do one shroud at a time because it made the alignment easier, but the top was really a mess when I did that on earlier ships, so I mount one deadeye, thread it through the top, and then there is a fiendish alignment process for the second deadeye at the other end of the second shroud. Curious why you asked to see this. Regards, David etubino, Twokidsnosleep and vossy 3 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck
vossy Posted September 29, 2022 #126 Posted September 29, 2022 Thanks. I did the Amati Santa Maria years ago and had awful trouble with this part. Looked like a big lumpy mess on mine, but yours looks really good I reckon. Also I dont know if its just the picture you took, but yours also look like they have been tarred, which I guess might have been the case on the real thing? Anyway, great job. drobinson02199 1 Quote
drobinson02199 Posted September 29, 2022 Author #127 Posted September 29, 2022 Chris: Not tarring -- just gobs of medium super glue. Regards, David Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck
drobinson02199 Posted October 15, 2022 Author #128 Posted October 15, 2022 Pictures below of completed ratlines on ONE side of the main shrouds. I've kept them a bit dark because the ratlines are white and hard to see. I've been working on these for about 2 1/2 weeks, which is an indication of my motivation level when it comes to ratlines. Probably not alone in that regard. At this rate, I'll still be working on this ship at this time next year. Regards, David mort stoll, vossy, Ian_Grant and 3 others 6 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck
vossy Posted October 15, 2022 #129 Posted October 15, 2022 This looks awesome David! drobinson02199 1 Quote
drobinson02199 Posted October 30, 2022 Author #130 Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) Main mast ratlines now done on the other side. Slow but steady. I put them against a black background since they are white, in order to see them better. You can't see it, but hanging behind the black baseboard is a tablet I bought that allows me to stream TV while I'm working on the model. Helps on the grindingly repetitive things like ratlines. Regards, David Edited October 30, 2022 by drobinson02199 Forgot photo Kingspoke, vossy, BobG and 1 other 4 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck
drobinson02199 Posted November 10, 2022 Author #132 Posted November 10, 2022 Fore lower shrouds done. Regards, David mort stoll, Kingspoke, vossy and 3 others 6 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck
drobinson02199 Posted December 13, 2022 Author #133 Posted December 13, 2022 I see from my last post that it's been over a month since that one -- a reflection of a very busy November and early December. Also a reflection of the surprising difficulty I found in fitting the fore shroud cleats, pictured here (with a white paper towel background so you can see them). I suspect that my bottle of CA gel may be getting old and not setting as fast as usual, but I found it hard to get them glued to the shrouds so that I could then apply the lashings. Now to ratlines. Regards, David mort stoll, Kingspoke, vossy and 1 other 4 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck
vossy Posted December 13, 2022 #134 Posted December 13, 2022 Hi David, she is looking good. I was looking at your completed build list. Did you not do the Amati 1:60 Bounty at some stage? I thought you did a build log on it? Chris. Quote
drobinson02199 Posted December 13, 2022 Author #135 Posted December 13, 2022 Chris: Thanks for your comment. No, I didn't do that one. What are you working on now? Regards, David Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck
vossy Posted December 13, 2022 #136 Posted December 13, 2022 Sorry I could have sworn you did Bounty. Anyway, I have the Mantua 1:50 Santa Maria heavily bashed and just about to get onto the masts. I decided to leave off the over the top metal decorations and brass railings etc. as I thought they looked out of place on such a vessel. Most of the metal parts I have replaced with wooden parts I made from various offcuts. I didn't do a log but will put up pics in the gallery once it is completed. Also pulled out the Amati Bounty that I have that was about half way through some very dodgy first planking. I figure I should be able to rescue it and produce a pretty good piece. Also have to finally put a few masts and basic rigging on the Riverboat to finish her off. Chris. drobinson02199 1 Quote
drobinson02199 Posted December 14, 2022 Author #137 Posted December 14, 2022 Chris: I'm set up to follow any of your logs, so I'll look for the pics in the gallery once you finish. At the rate I'm going on Victory, I'll finish her sometime late next year. Best regards, David Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck
drobinson02199 Posted January 1, 2023 Author #138 Posted January 1, 2023 One side of the foremast lower ratlines done. This took me 2 weeks, which is mostly because ratlines are BORING and REPETITIVE. About to leave for a long trip, so won't be posting again for a bit. Regards, David Kingspoke, GrandpaPhil, mort stoll and 4 others 7 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck
vossy Posted January 2, 2023 #139 Posted January 2, 2023 Looks great David. Happy New Year and have a safe trip. Chris The Gimps Chimp and drobinson02199 2 Quote
drobinson02199 Posted February 25, 2023 Author #140 Posted February 25, 2023 Back from my winter trip and dug back into the foremast ratlines. Finished off the port side. Now onto the mizzen shrouds. Regards, David vossy, Gregory, etubino and 7 others 10 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck
vossy Posted February 26, 2023 #141 Posted February 26, 2023 Good to see you back David. She looks great. Chris mort stoll 1 Quote
drobinson02199 Posted March 2, 2023 Author #142 Posted March 2, 2023 Finished the Mizzen shrouds. Pictures include the futtock shrouds and the shroud cleats. I did the cleats by first gluing them to the shrouds, then lashing them. Regards, etubino, mort stoll, The Gimps Chimp and 7 others 9 1 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck
drobinson02199 Posted March 6, 2023 Author #143 Posted March 6, 2023 Finished the lower mizzen ratlines, which means I have now finished the lower shrouds and ratlines for all three masts. Only took about 3 1/2 months 🥵 (subtracting my vacation time), and I have built some entire ships in that time. Not a reflection of difficulty per se, so much as my lack of appetite for ratlines. Now I get to repeat the process for the upper shrouds and ratlines, but fewer shrouds so may go faster. Regards, David BobG, CODY, GrandpaPhil and 3 others 6 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck
allanyed Posted March 6, 2023 #144 Posted March 6, 2023 Very neatly rigged ratlines! It may be my crappy color vision, but the cleats look like they are silver and tied with monofilament rather than wood with hemp rope. I am probably missing something on this, but curious none-the-less. Allan drobinson02199 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
drobinson02199 Posted March 6, 2023 Author #145 Posted March 6, 2023 Allan: No, your vision is spot on. The instructions say to paint the cleats black -- I haven't done that as yet, but brown would be interesting. As for the ties, they only look like monofilament because of the glue, but they are actually thin light rope. Regards, David allanyed 1 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck
allanyed Posted March 7, 2023 #146 Posted March 7, 2023 I am not sure if the cleats would have been iron or wood during your time period so iron painted black may be more appropriate. Nice work and thanks for sharing your build. Allan drobinson02199 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU
drobinson02199 Posted March 9, 2023 Author #147 Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) Here are the upper mizzen shrouds. I inadvertantly pranged the mizzen and the second mast broke, so I glued it -- but as you can see (in the picture with the bad background, looking aft from the main mast), it was misaligned. So I used the shrouds to pull it back into alignment, and it came out pretty straight. Pretty well aligned with the main now. One of those few occasions when the rigging is functional, not just decorative. Regards, David Edited March 9, 2023 by drobinson02199 BobG, vossy, GrandpaPhil and 2 others 5 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck
drobinson02199 Posted March 14, 2023 Author #148 Posted March 14, 2023 The topgallant shrouds run down through the topmast crosstrees and become the topmast futtock shrouds in one continuous run. The instructions aren't terribly clear about this. This is still the mizzen. Regards, David CODY, GrandpaPhil, ccoyle and 4 others 7 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck
drobinson02199 Posted March 19, 2023 Author #149 Posted March 19, 2023 Finally -- one mast completed. This is the mizzen, all shrouds and ratlines done. Regards, David BobG, GrandpaPhil, vossy and 4 others 7 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck
drobinson02199 Posted March 24, 2023 Author #150 Posted March 24, 2023 (edited) Finished the shrouds on the main topmast and topgallant mast. And yes, for the sharp-eyed, the shroud attachments for the futtocks are not level with each other. That's just a goof. I find attaching those to the shrouds to be devilish, so my latest approach is to put glue on the bar and spray the shrouds with quick-set, then press the bar against the shrouds. Got them aligned on the mizzen, but missed here. I'm not worried about it because the ship on display will be viewed from one side (the one showing below), and the other futtock attachment won't be that noticeable. Regards, David Edited March 24, 2023 by drobinson02199 GrandpaPhil, Kingspoke, mort stoll and 4 others 7 Quote David Robinson Boston, MA area Completed: Constructo J.S. Elcano, Artesinia Latina Sanson, Dumas Mt. Washington, Bluejacket Nantucket, Amati Revenge, Artesania Latina King of the Mississippi, Amati Grand Banks Heritage 46, Amati HMS Fly, Amati Titanic, Dumas Chris Craft Commuter, Mantua Cutty Sark, Mantua Bruma, Kolderstok Batavia, Vanguard Models HM Cutter Alert, Caldercraft HMS Victory, Dumas USCG Fast Response Cutter Currently Building: Amati Bismarck
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