bobandlucy Posted December 5, 2021 Author Share #91 Posted December 5, 2021 Thanks, Bob and Eric. Bob, what you're seeing at the base of the stairway railings is just a piece of wood I've been using as a spacer between the decks and the bottom rails, it just happened to be laying on the deck in front of the railings. Bob Fraser and Cathead 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandlucy Posted December 6, 2021 Author Share #92 Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) I need to vent. Having finished the railings on the second deck, I counted the number of PE brass railings that would be required to complete the third deck. The kit is again way short, by at least 10 pieces. I sent in AL's form from their clunky website. They require a sales receipt, which I do not have (lesson for future). We'll see what happens. I'd pay if it can be shipped quickly. I have scrapped none of the supplied PE parts. Of course my brain immediately started processing the available alternates. So far they are: 1. Bow and stern with PE railings and wooden railings similar to first deck along the sides. I have the wood (which was also short), which I had ordered from another vendor. 2. Bow and stern with PE railings and wooden railings alternating with PE railings along the sides (if indeed I have enough PE). 3. Entire third deck with wooden railings. I don't resent having to deal with "problems," but material shortages of the extent present in my kit are another matter. I am happy with the model, but the kit itself has been a disappointment. I'd have a hard time opening my wallet for another Artisania Latina kit, for sure. Venting concluded. Edited December 6, 2021 by bobandlucy Cathead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Fraser Posted December 6, 2021 Share #93 Posted December 6, 2021 Hi Bob. Did you get two PE sheets of railings, one large sheet, one small? Let me count how many are needed for the 1st and 2nd decks, and I can send you the spares I have, if this helps any. As you know I messed up the third deck myself, and it has no PE on it. It'll be tomorrow as I can't pull the bits out at the moment. Quote Bob Current build Cutty Sark, Mini Mamoli Finished King of the Mississippi No trees were harmed by this message, but an awful lot of electrons were put out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandlucy Posted December 7, 2021 Author Share #94 Posted December 7, 2021 Thanks, Bob- there are too many pieces missing, but I do appreciate the offer! AL did respond promptly. They are charging me due to lack of receipt, but that's OK. The shipment originates in Hong Kong. I imagine that with our current "supply chain" problems that this may take a while. But at least I know the direction I'm heading, so can keep up the progress. Maybe AL's new owners are attempting to right their ship. Hope that effort extends to QA process as well. Cathead, Bob Fraser and druxey 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Fraser Posted December 7, 2021 Share #95 Posted December 7, 2021 That's great news, and a fast response too! The AL instructions say 66 railings (part 211) are needed and I counted 70 in the PE sheets. That should leave me with 8 spares - lets see what happens. All the best! Quote Bob Current build Cutty Sark, Mini Mamoli Finished King of the Mississippi No trees were harmed by this message, but an awful lot of electrons were put out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandlucy Posted December 13, 2021 Author Share #96 Posted December 13, 2021 I'm feeling a little ashamed about my rant posted above. Upon reflection, and review of past logs, it seems unlikely that I would be the only one experiencing a shortage of the PE railing material. Maybe I did something strange with it. The wood shortage was definitely there, and was significant, so maybe I jumped to conclusions. One thing I have confirmed through reviewing other logs- the locating tabs for the staterooms and the pilot house deck were left incorrect for a period of years and led to more than one builder installing the staterooms backwards, and offsetting the pennant mast away from the above deck overhang or leaving the mast out entirely. Moving on, I began placing the chimneys, pennant mast, kitchen stacks, and third deck railings. Although I checked as I went along, one of the chimneys is out of plumb. I'm not sure if I'm going to correct this, as it would lead to significant rework and I'm not positive that anyone but we here would notice. Once again I've got to remind myself that I'm doing this for fun and to learn. The next will be better, I'm sure. Bob Fraser, GrandpaPhil and Cathead 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Fraser Posted December 13, 2021 Share #97 Posted December 13, 2021 Looking the part, Bob. 7 hours ago, bobandlucy said: I'm feeling a little ashamed about my rant posted above. Upon reflection, and review of past logs, it seems unlikely that I would be the only one experiencing a shortage of the PE railing material. Maybe I did something strange with it. The wood shortage was definitely there, and was significant, so maybe I jumped to conclusions. One thing I have confirmed through reviewing other logs- the locating tabs for the staterooms and the pilot house deck were left incorrect for a period of years and led to more than one builder installing the staterooms backwards, and offsetting the pennant mast away from the above deck overhang or leaving the mast out entirely. I think a lot of others have had such rants - let off a bit of steam and you definately feel better! 🤯 😁 Wood shortage and poor instructions seem to have been an AL consistency, and I think I had 3 goes at getting those staterooms right! 7 hours ago, bobandlucy said: Moving on, I began placing the chimneys, pennant mast, kitchen stacks, and third deck railings. Although I checked as I went along, one of the chimneys is out of plumb. I'm not sure if I'm going to correct this, as it would lead to significant rework and I'm not positive that anyone but we here would notice. Once again I've got to remind myself that I'm doing this for fun and to learn. The next will be better, I'm sure. Maybe a little late for you now, but I found that the sideways tilt on the chimneys was caused by the upper crossbeam on the metal part being too long as it hits the fixing spike of the crowns. 7 hours ago, bobandlucy said: Once again I've got to remind myself that I'm doing this for fun and to learn. The next will be better, I'm sure. As Mr Punch would say when he triumphs "That's the way to do it!" Cheers, Bob Cathead and druxey 2 Quote Bob Current build Cutty Sark, Mini Mamoli Finished King of the Mississippi No trees were harmed by this message, but an awful lot of electrons were put out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandlucy Posted December 17, 2021 Author Share #98 Posted December 17, 2021 Bob, thank you. I did trim the ornamental crossbeam, as I saw the interference. The slant is in the forward direction. Today I added the surrounds for the kitchen stacks and steam stacks, and some of the third deck railing. I am really happy with this area, and I think it is where I would be hanging out if onboard, watching the shore slip by while sipping a bourbon whisky and listening to the sound of the paddlewheel slapping the water. GrandpaPhil, druxey and Cathead 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Fraser Posted December 17, 2021 Share #99 Posted December 17, 2021 6 hours ago, bobandlucy said: Bob, thank you. I did trim the ornamental crossbeam, as I saw the interference. The slant is in the forward direction. My bad - It must have been perspective (or my old eyes 😀 )! As you said, only just perceptible when pointed out. 6 hours ago, bobandlucy said: I am really happy with this area, and I think it is where I would be hanging out if onboard, watching the shore slip by ...... listening to the sound of the paddlewheel slapping the water. The stern of the Mersey Ferry used to be my favourite place to be when travelling to work, watching the wake and the gulls, not to mention the other shipping. Gave me vertigo if I looked down for too long! bobandlucy 1 Quote Bob Current build Cutty Sark, Mini Mamoli Finished King of the Mississippi No trees were harmed by this message, but an awful lot of electrons were put out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted December 18, 2021 Share #100 Posted December 18, 2021 21 hours ago, bobandlucy said: I am really happy with this area, and I think it is where I would be hanging out if onboard Just don't forget that on many sternwheelers, the heads overhung the wheels for obvious reasons of disposal! So maybe check the wind direction first (not that that means much on winding North American rivers). bobandlucy and Bob Fraser 1 1 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandlucy Posted December 20, 2021 Author Share #101 Posted December 20, 2021 Working on the hog chains and supports. Couldn't resist adding some people to the upper stern area. Getting close to finishing now. Still have to shape the bow-end masts. . . I've been avoiding that. I've found that shaping is much easier/accurate starting with square wood as was done with Model Expo's Pram and Lobster Smack, rather than with the round dowel supplied with this kit. The pennant mast already installed is a bit wavy, not the smoothest taper. I'll see if I can do better with the remaining two. It's probably just a matter of going a bit slower and using more measuring points along the length of the mast. GrandpaPhil, druxey, Cathead and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandlucy Posted December 31, 2021 Author Share #102 Posted December 31, 2021 (edited) Received the parts from Hong Kong and finished the model. I am mostly pleased with the results. Edited December 31, 2021 by bobandlucy druxey, Ryland Craze, Cathead and 6 others 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Fraser Posted December 31, 2021 Share #103 Posted December 31, 2021 A nice clean job, well done. Looks really good and the people do bring it to life! Quote Bob Current build Cutty Sark, Mini Mamoli Finished King of the Mississippi No trees were harmed by this message, but an awful lot of electrons were put out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UdoK Posted December 31, 2021 Share #104 Posted December 31, 2021 CONGRATULATIONS!! A beautiful model, perfect built. Quote Cheers, Udo Current builds: Le Coureur 1776 - CAFmodel 1/48 VOC Retourship Batavia Boston Typhoon steam trawler 1/32 Research/Side Projects/On Hold: H.M. Bark Endeavour HMS Bounty 1787 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tlee01 Posted December 31, 2021 Share #105 Posted December 31, 2021 Wow, great job. Quote Life is to short to be serious all the time. So, if you can't laugh at yourself, your not doing it right. Current Builds 18th Century Armed Longboat Finished Builds Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted December 31, 2021 Share #106 Posted December 31, 2021 Looks great, congratulations on a job well done and thanks for sharing it with us. Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandlucy Posted January 3, 2022 Author Share #107 Posted January 3, 2022 Thanks for the nice comments! Cathead 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted January 3, 2022 Share #108 Posted January 3, 2022 Congratulations upon the completion of your project -- she looks great! bobandlucy 1 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryland Craze Posted January 3, 2022 Share #109 Posted January 3, 2022 Congratulations on finishing your King of the Mississippi. You did a nice job on building this model. bobandlucy 1 Quote Ryland Member - Hampton Roads Ship Model Society - Ship Model Society of New Jersey - Nautical Research Guild Current Build - Armed Virginia Sloop, 18th Century Longboat Completed Build - Medway Longboat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrandpaPhil Posted January 4, 2022 Share #110 Posted January 4, 2022 Congratulations! Well done! Quote Building: 1:64 HMS Revenge (Victory Models plans) 1:64 Cat Esther (17th Century Dutch Merchant Ships) On the building slip: 1:72 French Ironclad Magenta (original shipyard plans) On hold: 1:98 Mantua HMS Victory (kit bash), 1:96 Shipyard HMS Mercury Favorite finished builds: 1:60 Sampang Good Fortune (Amati plans), 1:200 Orel Ironclad Solferino, 1:72 Schooner Hannah (Hahn plans), 1:72 Privateer Prince de Neufchatel (Chapelle plans), Model Shipways Sultana, Heller La Reale, Encore USS Olympia Goal: Become better than I was yesterday "The hardest part is deciding to try." - me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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