dirkske Posted December 23, 2021 Share #1 Posted December 23, 2021 This will be a slooooow build. And my very first on top of it. Wish me luck as I will need it 😋 Edit: Note that as far as I know the first French Dundee's date of late 19th century. Thus I picked this subforum. If best in later period, admins please move (sorry in that case). ccoyle, yvesvidal, Baker and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirkske Posted December 23, 2021 Author Share #2 Posted December 23, 2021 Currently I'm getting my bearings on the kit. Let me start with a question on fitting the hull planks. My initial line of thought was that the line indicated with the red arrow was where the hull planks meet with the keel. While this seem possible at the bow, that does not add up at the stern. Thus, I must be misinterpreting them. What do those lines indicate? Is it the start where to taper the keel frame to, say, 1/3 thickness? Keith Black 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted December 23, 2021 Share #3 Posted December 23, 2021 Dirk, great to see you've started a build log. There is a search function top right, if you search "Marie Jeanne" you'll see several build logs of the MJ, I've attached one as an example though it is a Artesania Latina kit and not a Billings Boat kit but you'll see several MJ BB build logs. Please take a look through those build logs and you'll see how others handled points in their builds that you may have questions about. Baker, dirkske and tkay11 3 Quote Current Builds: Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanB Posted December 24, 2021 Share #4 Posted December 24, 2021 Good luck with your build.! I am very new to building model boats, but one thing I can tell you so far is that slow is very good. Taking time to look at plans, read the instructions over and over and also taking the time to just enjoy each step has been a great help. Look at other build logs for your ship and also for similar ships. I have learned a lot from other's logs and they have been very helpful with understanding unclear parts of the instructions and in avoiding some mistakes. Dan Keith Black and dirkske 2 Quote Current Build: Sultana 1:64 Completed: Lowell Grand Banks Dory Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack NRG 18th Century Merchantman Half Hull Project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirkske Posted December 25, 2021 Author Share #5 Posted December 25, 2021 (edited) Aligning the first former after sanding the keel to thickness accepting all the formers with a very faint friction fit. I am still missing a level, or even flat, building bench. This due to a recent (and still ongoing) house rebuild. So, as a stopgap I levelled a leftover board using, again, leftover adustable IKEA cabinet feet. Next I used the same laser to level the first bulkhead. Turned the lot 180deg around and so it continues. Edited December 25, 2021 by dirkske Keith Black, G.L., Ryland Craze and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted December 25, 2021 Share #6 Posted December 25, 2021 Leftovers or not. Good start 👍 dirkske, Keith Black and king derelict 2 1 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch To do : Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.L. Posted December 29, 2021 Share #7 Posted December 29, 2021 The start of a new project is always an exciting moment. I signed up to follow your log. Zeer veel succes toegewenst (Wishing you a lot of success)! dirkske and Keith Black 2 Quote G.L. Current projects: Oostends schipje (Ostend shrimper) - scale 1:20 Clipper d'Argenteuil - POF - scale 1/15 - SMALL Completed projects: Norwegian Whale Boat - POF - scale 1/10 - SMALL Anatomy of a boat by G.L. - scale 1/10 - POF - SMALL Day gaff sailing boat with center board - FINISHED - SMALL - scale 1/10 Cross section fishing smack - FINISHED -scale 1:20HMS Triton cross section - FINISHED - Scale 1:24 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintergreen Posted December 29, 2021 Share #8 Posted December 29, 2021 Clever to use adjustable feet and a laser level to get square and fair. About the dotted lines you were asking about. I think they are the so called bearding line and rabbet. See this thread for a picture a couple posts down: Good luck! Keith Black, dirkske and Baker 2 1 Quote Happy modelling! Håkan __________________________________________ Current build: Atlantica by Wintergreen Previous builds Kågen by Wintergreen Regina by Wintergreen Sea of Galilee boat, first century, sort of... Billing Boats Wasa Gallery: Kågen (Cog, kaeg) by Wintergreen - 1:30, Billing Boats Regina - 1:30, Billing Boats Dana, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirkske Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share #9 Posted December 30, 2021 Thank you Wintergreen 👍 Unfortunatly I allready started framing, thus chiselling this out will be difficult. Ah well, difficult is not impossible.... 🙈 Keith Black 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirkske Posted December 30, 2021 Author Share #10 Posted December 30, 2021 Current state, next will be an attempt to make/recess that bearding line. Baker, JpR62, G.L. and 5 others 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintergreen Posted December 30, 2021 Share #11 Posted December 30, 2021 "Everything is possible. The impossible just takes a bit longer" 😉 With a small sharp chisel I think you will find a way. Keep it up! Baker, dirkske and Keith Black 3 Quote Happy modelling! Håkan __________________________________________ Current build: Atlantica by Wintergreen Previous builds Kågen by Wintergreen Regina by Wintergreen Sea of Galilee boat, first century, sort of... Billing Boats Wasa Gallery: Kågen (Cog, kaeg) by Wintergreen - 1:30, Billing Boats Regina - 1:30, Billing Boats Dana, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirkske Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share #12 Posted January 6, 2022 I recessed the ?bearding? line along the bow. Also sanded the frames. I gave a shot at bending the first plank. And look and behold, what is likely commen practice and utterly boring to most of you is giving me such joy. The plank sits in place, curved, without any persuation 😁 I uses my plane covering iron again, but need to give it a good clean. The covering glue residue rubs off on the planks. Does anyone use a heated bed from an old 3D printer as baseboard for these bending operations? It might help heating the planks more equally from both sides. Or are the planks typically soaked tranferring the heat more easily in depth? It does seem to work when heating from a single side. But it would not hurt being able to shorten the heating duration. Did I mention this build will be a slow one? 😋 ct mike, king derelict, Keith Black and 4 others 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith Black Posted January 6, 2022 Share #13 Posted January 6, 2022 Dirk, congratulations on getting the first plank in place. May the rest of the planks bring you as much joy as the first. dirkske and king derelict 1 1 Quote Current Builds: Wood Hull Screw Frigate USS Tennessee Decorative Carrack Warship Restoration, the Amelia Completed: Early Swift 1805 Model Restoration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wintergreen Posted January 6, 2022 Share #14 Posted January 6, 2022 Looking good Dirk. Check out one of the moderators here, Chuck P on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPncZte1NZzmc-n7AMS7z6A He has a set of instructional videos about plank bending. Also, be careful with too much soaking since the planks change size quite a bit. Depending on species of course, but anyway. Keep it up! dirkske and Keith Black 1 1 Quote Happy modelling! Håkan __________________________________________ Current build: Atlantica by Wintergreen Previous builds Kågen by Wintergreen Regina by Wintergreen Sea of Galilee boat, first century, sort of... Billing Boats Wasa Gallery: Kågen (Cog, kaeg) by Wintergreen - 1:30, Billing Boats Regina - 1:30, Billing Boats Dana, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirkske Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share #15 Posted January 6, 2022 53 minutes ago, Wintergreen said: Looking good Dirk. Check out one of the moderators here, Chuck P on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPncZte1NZzmc-n7AMS7z6A He has a set of instructional videos about plank bending. Also, be careful with too much soaking since the planks change size quite a bit. Depending on species of course, but anyway. Keep it up! Apparently there should be no need to moisten the thinner strips. I may need to upgrade to a hotter iron. But this one is very practical being so small in size. Maybe I'll just stick with it and live with having to apply heat longer. Keith Black and Wintergreen 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted January 7, 2022 Share #16 Posted January 7, 2022 Nice start, In case you didn't find them yourself. Some links on the forum about planking. https://thenrg.org/resources/Documents/articles/PlankBending.pdf https://modelshipworld.com/forum/98-planking-downloads-and-tutorials-and-videos/ Keith Black, G.L. and dirkske 3 Quote Regards, Patrick Finished : Soleil Royal Heller 1/100 Wasa Billing Boats Bounty Revell 1/110 plastic (semi scratch) Pelican / Golden Hind 1/45 scratch Current build : Mary Rose 1/50 scratch Gallery : Revell Bounty Pelican/Golden hind 1/45 scratch To do : Prins Willem Corel, Le Tonnant Corel, Yacht d'Oro Corel, Thermopylae Sergal Shore leave, non ship models build logs : ADGZ M35 funkwagen 1/72 Einhets Pkw. Kfz.2 and 4 1/72 Autoblinda AB40 1/72 122mm A-19 & 152mm ML-20 & 12.8cm Pak.44 {K8 1/2} 1/72 10.5cm Howitzer 16 on Mark. VI(e) Centurion Mk.1 conversion M29 Weasel 1/72 SAM6 1/72 T26 Finland T26 TN 1/72 Autoprotetto S37 1/72 Opel Blitz buses 1/72 Boxer and MAN trucks 1/72 Hetzer38(t) Starr 1/72 Si vis pacem, para bellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoM Posted June 12, 2022 Share #17 Posted June 12, 2022 Looks great Dirk, I will be following your build with pleasure! dirkske and Keith Black 2 Quote Leo Moons Nous sommes condamnés à être libre Present build: Cutty Sark by Sergal/Mantua 1:78 Previous builds: - Collie by Graupner RC Sailing boat - Blue Nose II by Billing Boats - Harvey by Artesania Latina - Oceanic by Revell RC Tugboat - Thyssen II by Graupner RC Pushing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemosdogs1 Posted February 9, 2023 Share #18 Posted February 9, 2023 Greetings. I am also building the kit and wonder if anyone out there is familiar with the plans. i can’t seem to figure out what the numbers in circles mean (see photo). I suspect they have something to do with rigging? Any ideas? yvesvidal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Le Wol Posted February 9, 2023 Share #19 Posted February 9, 2023 Hi nemosdogs1, welcome to the forum. Make sure you head on over to the new members thread and introduce yourself. The numbers inside the circles on the drawing you are showing will also be on another drawing showing the sails and rigging. I think Billings calls this drawing “General Arrangements”. The corresponding number inside a circle will be pointing at the rigging that attaches to the pin or cleat shown on your drawing. Sometimes they are printed very lightly and are hard to see. Good luck with your build. Baker and Keith Black 2 Quote Regards……..Paul Completed Builds Glad Tidings Model Shipways. - Nordland Boat. Billings Boats . - HM Cutter Cheerful-1806 Syren Model Ship Company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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