Euro knotting tool

[Don Quixote]

Anyone used this or have any opinions?

 

https://modelexpo-online.com/Euro-Tool-Knotting-Tool_p_492.html

 

Edited February 1, 2022 by Clueless

[lmagna]

They are almost indispensable if you are tying multiple knots in things like strings of beads and want each knot to be tight and consistent. Kind of like using needles in knitting. But you may find them a bit more limited and awkward when being used in ship rigging and such. 

Edited February 2, 2022 by lmagna

[wefalck]

How is this supposed to work ?

 

Whatever the intended way of use, I cannot see it being used 'on board' of a model, where you would often need to reach deep between different other parts of the rigging.

 

BTW, the amount of knot-making on a model is often overestimated. There are very few places where 'knots' actually are needed (attaching sheets to sails comes to my mind, for instance). In most cases eye-splices, seizings or lashings are used (which may be indeed finished off in a knot). Belaying is a form of knot-making, but not really.

[Gregory]

1 hour ago, wefalck said:

BTW, the amount of knot-making on a model is often overestimated. T

If you don't count a couple thousand clove hitches for the ratlines..😃

[wefalck]

Yes, I took those for granted ...

[Don Quixote]

Thanks Y'all. Kinda what I figured.

[popeye2sea]

5 hours ago, Gregory said:

If you don't count a couple thousand clove hitches for the ratlines..😃

 

True, but technically not a knot.

 

Regards,

[Gregory]

Interesting perspective.  What is your basis for saying that?

 

Every book I have about knots includes the clove hitch..

 

If  I Google " clove hitch ", I get 2 million hits, an at least the first two pages all talk about knots..

[wefalck]

In my understanding a 'knot' is within a rope or between two rope ends, while a 'hitch' is a 'knot' used to secure a rope to an object.

 

In German we make similar distinctions. 

[popeye2sea]

Most often a knot will be at the end of a line, i.e: stopper knot, man rope knot, bell rope knot.  Also a lot of decorative ropework will be knotted. However, a hitch or a bend joins two ropes.  Hitches and bends are generally designed to be readily untie-able or loosened, Knots are designed to be more permanent.  Splices, seizings and lashings are another story.

 

There are very few actual knots employed in the rigging of ships.

 

In a similar vein, there are very few ropes in the rigging. The two I mentioned above being the only ones I can think of at the moment. Plenty of lines, though.

 

Regards,

Edited February 3, 2022 by popeye2sea

[Gregory]

'Knot' is also a verb..🙂

[Roger Pellett]

Semantics aside, can anyone explain how this tool works?

[Gregory]

 

[wefalck]

Actually, the thingy doesn't really tie the knot, you do this separately. All it does, it keeps the knot close to the pearl in this case.

 

You can do this perhaps even more easily with a needle held in a pin-vise around which you make the knot - pull on the loose end until the knot sits close to point were you want to have it and slowly pull out the needle while still pushing it against the pearl or whatever.

[Roger Pellett]

Thanks!

 

In 1985, I made a trip to China to investigate business opportunities.  My trip began in Hong Kong to get visas to visit the various Chinese cities.  Of course I had orders from my wife to buy pearl necklaces for her, my daughter, and my mother-in-law.  There was a whole street in Hong Kong that sold strings of pearls.  The strings were piled in bins and the sales people would lay strands out on a piece of black velvet until you found one that was acceptable.

 

Once you had made your selection, the pearls had to be knotted. A young woman would  slide the pearls from the string on to another.  Then with rapid motions she would tie a knot (hitch? 😏) between each pearl and it’s neighbor.  All of this was done in plain sight but her motions were so fluid that it was impossible to follow.  She would have been expert at tying ratlines without the Euro knotting tool.

 

Roger

[KeithAug]

35 minutes ago, Roger Pellett said:

In 1985, I made a trip to China to investigate business opportunities.

So now we know, it was you who was responsible for initiating Chinese world manufacturing dominance.