kiwiron Posted December 28, 2022 Author Share #61 Posted December 28, 2022 Thanks for the likes. I'll do this half of the keel, rudder then the other side then see how much I've got left for the gaps. Not bad so far, you will get gaps between plates as the angles change and offset of 50 percent changes. Some stick together or bond instantly. not the first time I have gone to work with a plate stuck to my shirt. The Gimps Chimp, BLACK VIKING, Bill Morrison and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted February 22, 2023 Author Share #62 Posted February 22, 2023 Half way through the other side. Then fill in the gaps. Bill Morrison, Prowler901, mort stoll and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted February 26, 2023 Author Share #63 Posted February 26, 2023 Port side main plates done, keel next. The Gimps Chimp, Prowler901, mort stoll and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted March 7, 2023 Author Share #64 Posted March 7, 2023 Port side done. It looks better the further away you get. I've learnt from mistakes on the coppering. Starboard side next just the fillers to do. Charter33, The Gimps Chimp, DanielD and 6 others 9 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share #65 Posted March 10, 2023 Coppering done. Re work on the keel with the spare plates, a bit better now. I'll miss the slithers of copper sticking into my fingers. Onto deck work now, my favourite part of the build. Charter33, mort stoll, Bill Morrison and 7 others 10 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share #66 Posted March 13, 2023 Stairs next Bill Morrison, mort stoll, Sjors and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted March 13, 2023 Share #67 Posted March 13, 2023 That looks real great! The copper plates are just if they are there all the time! It's a little bit to far for me otherwise I bring you a visit 🙂 kiwiron 1 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted March 14, 2023 Author Share #68 Posted March 14, 2023 Thanks Sjors, It's as good as I could get it. I have learnt a lot doing coppering. Welcome in New Zealand anytime. Ron. Sjors 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliluke Posted March 15, 2023 Share #69 Posted March 15, 2023 Hi Ron That coppering and the whole model looks really great. I'm sure we crossed paths here in the past!? I have returned to MSW after an eight hiatus as I pick up my HMS Fly build. If you which to age your copper quickly I recently posted my (dodgy but free) technique for doing that in the planking and plating section of the forum and in my rebooted HMS Fly log. I don't think I'd ever have the guts or stamina to take on Victory but it is always great to watch those who do. Cheers from a sunny and very still Wellington, Alistair Ryland Craze and Mr Whippy 2 Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted March 20, 2023 Author Share #70 Posted March 20, 2023 Sjors, mort stoll and Bill Morrison 3 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted March 20, 2023 Author Share #71 Posted March 20, 2023 Hi Alastair, good to hear from you again. My last ship finished in 2016 but I still wanted to do a copper hull so here I am. Without others amazing work, photos and advice I would be lost on nearly every step. Up to the cannons now. A still day in Wellington is nice, I grew up there. All the best. The Gimps Chimp and Bill Morrison 2 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted April 27, 2023 Author Share #72 Posted April 27, 2023 Cannon production line, lots to do. The Gimps Chimp, mort stoll, Bill Morrison and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted April 30, 2023 Share #73 Posted April 30, 2023 Your build is exceptional Ron!! Do you, or does anyone following your log, know if any kit or after market supplier offers Blomefield barrels as they would be appropriate for 1805 long guns rather than what looks a little bit like the original Armstrong patterns. Just curious for future builds even though most viewers probably would not notice the differences between Armstrong, Armstrong-Frederick and Blomefield patterns. Thanks Allan Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted May 1, 2023 Author Share #74 Posted May 1, 2023 Thanks Allan, Sorry don't know anything about the barrels. Ron. Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted May 1, 2023 Share #75 Posted May 1, 2023 Hi Ron I found out from another member that had an issue finding proper pattern barrels for his particular build that at least one supplier sells Blomefield pattern barrels that have the crest/cypher as well as the pan at the touch hole and they are relatively inexpensive. If this is of interest, please let me know. Allan Bill Morrison 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted May 3, 2023 Author Share #76 Posted May 3, 2023 Thanks for the info Allan. Mr Whippy 1 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted May 3, 2023 Author Share #77 Posted May 3, 2023 Time to put it away for the night before I go cross eyed. I used part 480 for the breech rope ring. I can get .75 thread through it. Rest of the trunnions before I blacken the barrels. The Gimps Chimp and Bill Morrison 2 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted May 3, 2023 Share #78 Posted May 3, 2023 (edited) Hi Ron Will you be adding the cleats to the carriage cheeks? I am not sure if they were on all size gun carriages but they do show up in contemporary paintings of Victory as well as on the drawings in Caruana. I doubt many people would notice, so maybe better to leave them as they are. Just a thought. Just in case, you can see these on the painting as well as the drawing from Congreve and also redrawn in Caruana. Edited May 3, 2023 by allanyed Bill Morrison, The Gimps Chimp and etubino 3 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aliluke Posted May 9, 2023 Share #79 Posted May 9, 2023 (edited) Hi Ron That is an insane number of cannons. Cross eyed indeed. The cannons have become the least favourite part of kit building for me and sent me away from the ships for a while. You have a heck of lot to go. Allan's image of a crew at work is great - the tensions, the chaos, the dangers and the mess of ropes. I'm not sure what you mean by the lack of 'trunnions' in the kit - that is just the pivot pin for the gun? And how can a hardware store help? I have decided on my Fly model to only add breeching ropes for the eight remaining cannons. I went through the whole tackles thing for those that are concealed under the decks - never again. The breeching ropes I used were 0.6mm (Morope) which felt about right for scale. Trust you are dry down there as we are here in Welly - no wind either. Bloody hell - who'd live in Auckland? Edited May 9, 2023 by aliluke allanyed, Mr Whippy and The Gimps Chimp 3 Quote Cheers Alistair Current Build - HMS Fly by aliluke - Victory Models - 1/64 https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34180-hms-fly-by-aliluke-victory-models-164/ Previous Build - Armed Virginia Sloop by Model Shipways Previous Build - Dutch Whaler by Sergal (hull only, no log) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted May 10, 2023 Author Share #80 Posted May 10, 2023 Lol, I tried Auckland for a short time, hated the traffic jams. All dry here too. Trunnion nails were missing but I found some from a previous kit that work. Out of the 30 cannons for this deck you can only see 10, that will do for full rigging. The lower decks are dummy barrels, no carriages. Quarter deck has visible cannons but not many. The eyelets part 480 nearly need a microscope to see. Not a lot of work to go on these cannons. The breach ropes you used would be a perfect size. Take care. Ron. Charter33, Matt D, Bill Morrison and 5 others 8 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted May 14, 2023 Author Share #81 Posted May 14, 2023 Time to set up rigging on the carriages. Clear the block holes, line up hooks etc. Lots of work so far and I'm only fully rigging 10 cannons that will be seen. Bill Morrison, The Gimps Chimp, mort stoll and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charter33 Posted May 14, 2023 Share #82 Posted May 14, 2023 Looking very good, Ron. 👏 Have you thought about using a brass blacking solution on those copper eyes? mort stoll 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted May 14, 2023 Author Share #83 Posted May 14, 2023 (edited) Thanks, I'll dry fit the eyelets to see if I need to blacken them. I failed on the Birchwood Casey brass black for the barrels. It did'nt like to stick very well after 30 seconds and that's with the Birchwood Casey cleaning solution as well. I'll have another go with it on the barrels for the quarter deck. Edited May 14, 2023 by kiwiron correction Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charter33 Posted May 14, 2023 Share #84 Posted May 14, 2023 Birchwood Casey solution can be a bit tricky at times! Over doing the soaking time was an issue I struggled with initially. A couple of strategies I found helped: - a short dunk agitating the components in the solution, rinse, repeat if necessary. - slightly dilute the solution. With those particular eyes I strung batches of them on a loop of cotton thread and treated them. Good luck! 🤞 kiwiron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted May 14, 2023 Share #85 Posted May 14, 2023 Ron, Your model continues to go beautifully. The gun and carriage look good. Lots of little blocks and such! Will you be darkening the breech rope so it is more of a tan color and/or using miniature rope? It is probably just me but the white color of the breech rope seems to be a bit stark. Cheers Allan kiwiron 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted May 14, 2023 Author Share #86 Posted May 14, 2023 Thanks Graham, I'll try that next time. Allan it's to late to colour the breech rope for this deck but it's a good suggestion for the quarter deck. Never thought of doing that. I have done that with sails in the past. Mr Whippy and allanyed 2 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted May 20, 2023 Author Share #87 Posted May 20, 2023 A few touch ups to go on the cannons then onto the skid beams. Charter33, Bill Morrison, mort stoll and 2 others 5 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted May 22, 2023 Author Share #88 Posted May 22, 2023 Quarter deck done. Bill Morrison, etubino, Snug Harbor Johnny and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share #89 Posted May 25, 2023 Planking underway. Bill Morrison, mort stoll, etubino and 1 other 4 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwiron Posted May 31, 2023 Author Share #90 Posted May 31, 2023 Quarterdeck planking done. The Gimps Chimp, Charter33, Mr Whippy and 6 others 9 Quote Current builds: HMS Victory - Caldercraft 1:72 Completed builds: HMB Endeavour - OcCre 1:54 HMS Supply - Caldercraft 1:64. Fishing boats, Bremen, Palamos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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