mtaylor Posted July 12, 2022 Share #1 Posted July 12, 2022 Trying to solve a problem with PVA causing very thin wood to curl. I visited my local hobby shop and found this.. 20 minute working time epoxy. I didn't know they made such a thing but I think it'll fill the bill as testing is very positive/. Archi, thibaultron, CDR_Ret and 8 others 8 3 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtvd19 Posted July 12, 2022 Share #2 Posted July 12, 2022 You picked the absolute best brand of epoxy. I use only Bob Smith epoxies. I use 5, 15 and 30 minute. Bob Smith is the only brand of C/A that I use. Canute, Ryland Craze, Tony Hunt and 6 others 7 2 Quote Kurt Van Dahm Director NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD www.thenrg.org SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS CLUBS Nautical Research & Model Ship Society of Chicago Midwest Model Shipwrights North Shore Deadeyes The Society of Model Shipwrights Butch O'Hare - IPMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 12, 2022 Author Share #3 Posted July 12, 2022 15 hours ago, kurtvd19 said: You picked the absolute best brand of epoxy. I use only Bob Smith epoxies. I use 5, 15 and 30 minute. Bob Smith is the only brand of C/A that I use. Same here. Our local hobby shop "rebrands" it with a label that has their logo which, I understand, is/was pretty common. Canute 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurtvd19 Posted July 12, 2022 Share #4 Posted July 12, 2022 Your hobby shop doesn't rebrand it. Smith does that for any store or business when they order the second time - they ask and if you want it the do it from then on. You will see that Model Expo and others use it too. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Kurt Van Dahm Director NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD www.thenrg.org SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS CLUBS Nautical Research & Model Ship Society of Chicago Midwest Model Shipwrights North Shore Deadeyes The Society of Model Shipwrights Butch O'Hare - IPMS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 13, 2022 Author Share #5 Posted July 13, 2022 Ah.... I've wondered about that. For some reason, I though the hobby shop did it. Canute 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snug Harbor Johnny Posted July 13, 2022 Share #6 Posted July 13, 2022 (edited) When using 5-minute epoxy (JB Weld has worked well for me) in small quantity, I'll 'finger-mix' it on the end of a door shim to incorporate it well ... actually 'whipping' it a bit. Soon I sense the temperature of the mix start to rise and the viscosity begin to thicken as it 'kicks'. I might use the index finger as an applicator in some cases, or wipe everything off and use a dental tool if convenient to the application. There will be just enough time to position whatever is being glued, and I'll leave it alone and do something else for a while. Edited July 14, 2022 by Snug Harbor Johnny typo mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Completed builds: Khufu Solar Barge - 1:72 Woody Joe Current project(s): Gorch Fock restoration 1:100, Billing Wasa (bust) - 1:100 Billings, Great Harry (bust) 1:88 ex. Sergal 1:65 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Pellett Posted July 13, 2022 Share #7 Posted July 13, 2022 I like JB Weld too. I like a longer pot life than the 5 minute stuff provides. Our local stores carry the Original Formula that works better for me. It hardens overnight. lmagna, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 16, 2022 Author Share #8 Posted July 16, 2022 Well, I waited for the wood to settle in by running the A/C and getting the humidity out of the air. Put the glue down and the deck and clamped used some weights. Then I waited over night. All is well. The glue dries almost flat in sheen and holds securely. I'm putting this on list of "go-to's" where normal wood glue may create issues. I'll upload a photo in my log probably tomorrow as there somethings I need to fiddle with first. bruce d, Canute, Dave_E and 2 others 5 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaddoc Posted July 17, 2022 Share #9 Posted July 17, 2022 A couple of things on epoxy Mark: It can be very messy, uncured epoxy though can be cleaned with vinegar (Epoxy is alkaline) Different epoxies can be very different, some flexible and some not, however they are generally all brittle. Epoxy thickened with something (I use gypsum) is far stronger. It also fills gaps very well. In cold weather, if the 2 parts become very thick, a few secs in a microwave restores them. mtaylor, Canute, druxey and 2 others 5 Quote Current projects: 21' Fisherman's Launch - plans by Howard Chapelle Hercules Steam Tugboat - scratch build from half model lines Completed projects: 21' Yawl Longboat - plans from the National Maritime Museum Deben 5 tonner - a Whisstock yard design 24' exploration gaff rigged ketch - a Tad Roberts design 15' knockabout sailing boat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted July 17, 2022 Author Share #10 Posted July 17, 2022 Thanks for input,Vaddoc. I've used other epoxies in the past and there are limitations and considerations to be sure. Canute 1 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose2 Posted August 1, 2022 Share #11 Posted August 1, 2022 Hi Les here. I use Lepage 5 minute epoxy. It's available here in Canada. So far so good. I would be interested in a side by side review. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluenose2 Posted August 17, 2022 Share #12 Posted August 17, 2022 Hi Les back. Whenever I use epoxy I wear gloves to limit the contact to my skin. I make sure that I have my vent fan on to evacuate the fumes. mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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