modeller_masa Posted November 11, 2023 Share #61 Posted November 11, 2023 (edited) On 11/9/2023 at 9:50 PM, Gregory said: when you address all the shortcomings of the KS230 I bought a Chinese mini table saw that addressed all the things - height adjustment, replaceable plate with sturdy fence and zero insert, and bigger 3 inch blade - for $40. The only drawback is safety. 😂 By the way, I'll order a full set of the Byrnes table saw when they re-open. I'm worry about the end of their family business... Edited November 11, 2023 by modeller_masa mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Posted November 11, 2023 Share #62 Posted November 11, 2023 1 minute ago, modeller_masa said: I bought a Chinese mini table saw that addressed all the things - height adjustment, replaceable plate with sturdy fence and zero insert, and bigger 3 inch blade - for $40. .... How has it performed under load? What kind of load? mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Luck is just another word for good preparation. —MICHAEL ROSE Current builds: Rattlesnake (Scratch From MS Plans On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modeller_masa Posted November 11, 2023 Share #63 Posted November 11, 2023 24 minutes ago, Gregory said: load I think the motor is 775. Not quite different from the KS230. The low power motor is dangerous when I cut hard wood. Good replacement for the KS230, but it is incomparable to Byrnes. mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Posted November 11, 2023 Share #64 Posted November 11, 2023 Dangerous? Any good saw is dangerous. How well does it work? mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Luck is just another word for good preparation. —MICHAEL ROSE Current builds: Rattlesnake (Scratch From MS Plans On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modeller_masa Posted November 11, 2023 Share #65 Posted November 11, 2023 The saw is as light as the KS230, and it doesn't have desktop clamp. Also, the dust collector is useless. I'm so afraid of any kind of table saw, so I prefer to use a laser cutter. (extension plate) mtaylor, Canute and bruce d 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bricklayer Posted November 12, 2023 Share #66 Posted November 12, 2023 @Wefalck, the Böhler mini circular saw table is still availiable. It`s the brand that changed, only. For a couple of years the brand of former Böhler mini tools is Kaleas. https://www.kaleas.de/en/modeling-tinker/minitool/72/minitool-table-circular-saw On ebay UK ther`s a seller who currently offers the saw for 179 GBP. The die-cast body isn`t a beauty but it looks rock-solid. It may make sense to buy the saw, only, if one already has a 12 V DC power supply @ bruce d I don`t own or use that table saw. So I`m awaiting your review. Michael Canute, mtaylor and bruce d 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GGibson Posted November 12, 2023 Share #67 Posted November 12, 2023 (edited) Lots of interesting options that look nice, but think I still want to wait on a Byrnes! I was just at our local ship modelers' club meeting today, and I asked around the room what the guys were using, as most of them are scratch builders, and I heard a series of "Byrnes, Byrnes, Byrnes....." responses. 👍 Edited November 12, 2023 by GGibson Canute, mtaylor and Bob Cleek 3 Quote Gregg Current Projects: Completed Projects: Waiting for Shipyard Clearance: Bluenose 1921 1:64 - Model Shipways Norwegian Sailing Pram 1:12 - Model Shipways Yacht America Schooner 1851 1:64 - Model Shipways Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack 1:24 - Model Shipways RMS Titanic 1:300 - OcCre (Couldn't help myself when it was on sale) H.M. Schooner Ballahoo 1:64 - Caldercraft USS Constitution 1:76 - Model Shipways Santa Maria Caravelle 1:48 - Ships of Pavel Nikitin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auger Posted November 19, 2023 Share #68 Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) Personally, and not to be rude, no matter how good the Byrnes saw is, I find it hard to throw down well over 800€ to ship one here. Present saw price + overseas shipping = x€ customs filing fee + customs tax on x€ = y€ 20% France VAT taxes on total (x€ + y€) = z€ Saw = x€ + y€ + z€. Just for mental comparison, 750€ just paid for four new 215/60R17 100H Michelin 4-Season tires on my 4x4 with mounting and full 4 wheel alignment. So I understand and research the replies here offering up other saw options, they’re people like me who search for cheaper alternatives. We all know the short answer is Byrnes is best, but some of us can’t have a Byrnes (or just don’t think it’s worth the total cost). Edited November 19, 2023 by Auger Gregory and Canute 2 Quote Completed Builds: AL Bounty Jolly Boat, Constructo Enterprise (logs lost in the great crash) Current Builds: Constructo Bounty, AL King of the Mississippi Up next: undetermined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modeller_masa Posted November 19, 2023 Share #69 Posted November 19, 2023 (edited) I would like to express my sincere condolences on the death of James William Byrnes... https://byrnesmodelmachines.com/ Edited November 19, 2023 by modeller_masa GGibson, tom q vaxy, Canute and 3 others 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom q vaxy Posted November 20, 2023 Share #70 Posted November 20, 2023 thank you for posting that M. that's too bad. 64 is not old. i'm willing to bet the majority of serious hobbyists are north of 50. i bade farewell to 70 this year. RIP JB Canute and bruce d 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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