Maciek Posted October 18, 2023 Share #1 Posted October 18, 2023 Welcome to my first building log! Over a year ago i started building Lady Nelson from Amati. It is my second attempt to build wooden ship. Bit late but anyway I decided to share building progress with You. Unfortunately I haven't documented early stages of construction. First photos I made below. The hull is ready and painted. I like detail so first of them that I have made to this stage: rudder Maciek ccoyle, Mr Whippy, AJohnson and 2 others 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maciek Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share #2 Posted October 18, 2023 Quick time jump and another update some deck furniture added (dry fitted at the moment) I decided to replace kit cannons with aftermarket, that are much larger (L:25mm) and more in to scale. GrandpaPhil, catopower, Mr Whippy and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maciek Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share #3 Posted October 18, 2023 Fast forward to present state There is a mast rigger with homemade ropes. I also upgreaded all blocks. Cannons on place and rigged. I have added doors(?) to gunports. All builts of Lady Nalson and Sharebourn I have seen never had boat on board, I decidet to add one on my ccoyle, Thukydides, Mr Whippy and 2 others 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maciek Posted October 18, 2023 Author Share #4 Posted October 18, 2023 And the last update for now: anchor Best Maciek Mr Whippy, AJohnson, catopower and 3 others 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maciek Posted December 12, 2023 Author Share #5 Posted December 12, 2023 Hello, it's time to make some sails! Unfortunately I don't have access to sewing machine so my sails are glued. To imitate seam on sail I followed Olha Batchvarov built relation ( www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj8D0VNMRAE&t=958s ) that is, pulling the colored thread out of the fabric to achieve result like this finished sail has doubel seam and glued on reinforcements on ends two sails installed, and template for third is fitted. A lot of loose line everywhere at this point Cheers Maciek Thukydides, whitejamest, ccoyle and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted December 14, 2023 Share #6 Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) Lovely model Maciek! I realize it is probably a kit mistake, not yours, but for the future, small cannon (below 32 pounders) used only single blocks, not doubles on both the running out tackle and train tackle. This is a common error with several kit manufacturers so you are not alone. On 12/12/2023 at 4:17 PM, Maciek said: I don't have access to sewing machine so my sails are glued. Nothing wrong with using glue on your sails, it actually might be a better way to go. Sewing will never be to scale at our most common scales just as cloth is usually far out of scale. Just as an FYI, many builders have switched silk span as it is much more realistic looking and no sewing is involved. Again, very nice work. Allan Edited December 14, 2023 by allanyed catopower, Maciek and oakheart 3 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Posted December 14, 2023 Share #7 Posted December 14, 2023 (edited) Maciek, Allan seems to have some historical info regarding gun tackle that none of the kit makers have, or they choose to ignore it. So, 99% of the builds you see here will have the double/single configuration you have used. Many of the highly credentialed Anatomy of the Ship authors also go with the double/single rig without regard to gun size. You have a very nice model, and your gun tackle looks really good. Edited December 14, 2023 by Gregory Maciek, oakheart and Mr Whippy 3 Quote Luck is just another word for good preparation. —MICHAEL ROSE Current builds: Rattlesnake (Scratch From MS Plans On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted December 15, 2023 Share #8 Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) On 12/14/2023 at 8:02 AM, Gregory said: Allan seems to have some historical info regarding gun tackle that none of the kit makers have Hi Gregory, I am taking your comment in good spirit.😀 I merely passed on what I found in historian Adrian Caruana's book on English Sea Ordnance volume II, page 386. His CV is most impressive and he was considered the leading authority in the world on English ordnance. It might just be that some others did not do the research. While Caruana states guns less than 32 pounders used pairs of single sheave blocks, I am sure there were exceptions for other large guns such as the 24's on any given ship. In the end nothing is gospel in this hobby of ours but I would rely on the likes of Caruana before the majority of kit makers or others that perhaps have less expertise in this area. Allan Edited December 15, 2023 by allanyed Gregory 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maciek Posted December 16, 2023 Author Share #9 Posted December 16, 2023 Amati didn't provide any gun tackle plans, so I took them form 'Anatomy of the Ship - The Naval Cutter Alert 1777' due to both ship are the same class and period. On 12/14/2023 at 1:05 PM, allanyed said: used only single blocks, not doubles on both the running out tackle and train tackle. Maybe it's not clearly visible in previous photos but blocks configuration is single and double. Thank you! I will remember this for future projects catopower, Thukydides, AJohnson and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Posted December 16, 2023 Share #10 Posted December 16, 2023 Very nice work. Mr Whippy and AJohnson 2 Quote Luck is just another word for good preparation. —MICHAEL ROSE Current builds: Rattlesnake (Scratch From MS Plans On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maciek Posted January 2 Author Share #11 Posted January 2 Hi taking a little break from Lady Nelson, I'm learning 3D design. For my next project, HMB Endavour, I have created model of it's cannon and hope to print it Model is based on blueprints from anatomy of the ship. Photo of orginal cannon for comparison. AJohnson, oakheart, Mr Whippy and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kgstakes Posted January 2 Share #12 Posted January 2 Nice job looks real good clean and very detailed. I like it!! Maciek and Mr Whippy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maciek Posted January 29 Author Share #13 Posted January 29 Dear All, I need some advice. I'm at the stage of mounting the yard and sails. I would like to mount squer sails as if they were catching side wind. something like that but, when i try to position the lowest yard it colides with shrouds. I couldent find any good picture how it works in real. Any ideas? ccoyle, catopower and AJohnson 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJohnson Posted January 29 Share #14 Posted January 29 (edited) A really nice looking cutter you have built there! I would be very interested to see what people say about yards fouling standing rigging and shrouds! I'm also building a cutter and like you want to add sails but not have the yards/sails perpendicular to the keel, partly for looks and partly for a narrower model so it can fit in a smaller display box and shelf! I have looked at several model, including contemporary ones and the topmast and main shrouds appear to foul the yards if they are rotated by even a small amount. hope one of MSW resident gurus can help. Edited January 29 by AJohnson Maciek 1 Quote Andrew Current builds:- HM Cutter Trial - Vanguard models (1/64), HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64), Hawker-Typhoon-1b-"Car-Door" - Airfix (1/24) Completed (Ship):- "Nisha" - Vanguard Models (1/64), HMS Orestes (Mars) - Caldercraft (1/64), HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft (1/64), TSS Earnslaw - Paper Shipwright (1/250), Puffer "Starlight" - Paper Shipwright (1/250) Completed (Non-Ship):-Blackburn Buccaneer S.2C - Airfix (1/48), Bristol Beaufort - Airfix (1/72), Mosquito B.XVI - Airfix (1/72), , Sea-Harrier-FRS1 - Airfix (1/72), Grumman F6F-5 Hellcat - Airfix (1/24), De Havilland Chipmunk T.10 - Airfix (1/48), Flamborough Head Lighthouse - Paper Shipwright (1/250) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted January 29 Share #15 Posted January 29 34 minutes ago, Maciek said: but, when i try to position the lowest yard it colides with shrouds. Are you talking about the forestays, or the need to run some of the running rigging through the ratlines/shrouds? Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJohnson Posted January 29 Share #16 Posted January 29 Hi Chris, if I’m reading @Maciek right he is asking about the square sail/yard. I am also interested in what the answer is, did yards run on the shrouds and is this why the front ones were served? Quote Andrew Current builds:- HM Cutter Trial - Vanguard models (1/64), HMAV Bounty - Caldercraft (1/64), Hawker-Typhoon-1b-"Car-Door" - Airfix (1/24) Completed (Ship):- "Nisha" - Vanguard Models (1/64), HMS Orestes (Mars) - Caldercraft (1/64), HM Cutter Sherbourne - Caldercraft (1/64), TSS Earnslaw - Paper Shipwright (1/250), Puffer "Starlight" - Paper Shipwright (1/250) Completed (Non-Ship):-Blackburn Buccaneer S.2C - Airfix (1/48), Bristol Beaufort - Airfix (1/72), Mosquito B.XVI - Airfix (1/72), , Sea-Harrier-FRS1 - Airfix (1/72), Grumman F6F-5 Hellcat - Airfix (1/24), De Havilland Chipmunk T.10 - Airfix (1/48), Flamborough Head Lighthouse - Paper Shipwright (1/250) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maciek Posted January 29 Author Share #17 Posted January 29 48 minutes ago, ccoyle said: Are you talking about the forestays, or the need to run some of the running rigging through the ratlines/shrouds? I am talking about forestays. As You can see on the picture above, forestay blocks rotation angle of the yard. I think i shoulden't deform forestays by increasind tention on yard. Mayby i need to move yard foreward away from the mast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allanyed Posted January 30 Share #18 Posted January 30 (edited) The cannon drawings look great. Just noticed that you have the George II cypher on the cannon for Endeavour. I may be wrong but as Endeavour was launched in 1764, wouldn't the cypher be for George III? Armstrong Frederick STL drawings may be getting posted in the near future with the George III cypher in the following: https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34442-3d-printing-cannons-in-resin/ There were recent discussions on the trucks having been made of single pieces so there were no bolts in them. There were many exceptions in ships so maybe some carpenter made truck assemblies rather than from single cylinders. https://modelshipworld.com/topic/34538-gun-carriage-questions/page/3/ Posts #66 and after. Allan Edited January 30 by allanyed oakheart 1 Quote PLEASE take 30 SECONDS and sign up for the epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series. Click on http://trafalgar.tv There is no cost other than the 30 seconds of your time. THANK YOU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maciek Posted January 30 Author Share #19 Posted January 30 Thank You Allan, I think You right When modeling the emblem I took picture from book 'anatomy of the ship - alert' because it was more precise for me to model on it than the one for endavours book. I didn't realise that the small ornament on the left was in fact a number 2. I compared it with drwaings for endavour and this ornament looks like like 3 there. If I decide to print it some changes will be made ;). Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maciek Posted March 9 Author Share #20 Posted March 9 Hello! After 2 years the construction has been completed! I really like how it turned out. below some photos. ccoyle, Thukydides, CTDavies and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregory Posted March 9 Share #21 Posted March 9 Very nice model! Maciek 1 Quote Luck is just another word for good preparation. —MICHAEL ROSE Current builds: Rattlesnake (Scratch From MS Plans On Hold: HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett ) In the Gallery: Yacht Mary, Gretel, French Cannon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccoyle Posted March 9 Share #22 Posted March 9 1 hour ago, Maciek said: I really like how it turned out. And so you should -- she looks great! Maciek 1 Quote Chris Coyle Greer, South Carolina When you have to shoot, shoot. Don't talk. - Tuco Current builds: Brigantine Phoenix, Hawker Hurricane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knocklouder Posted March 9 Share #23 Posted March 9 Congratulations very nice work Maciek 1 Quote Start so you can Finish !! Finished: The Santa Maria -Amati 1:65, La Pinta- Amati 1:65, La Nina -Amati 1:65 , Hannah Ship in Bottle-Amati 1:300 : The Sea of Galilee Boat-Scott Miller-1:20 Current Build: The Mayflower: Amati On Hold: HMS Pegasus: Amati Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thukydides Posted March 9 Share #24 Posted March 9 Great job, she looks awesome. Maciek 1 Quote Current build: HM Cutter Alert (Vanguard Models) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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