Rustyj Posted May 7 Share #31 Posted May 7 Looking good Shawn! Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baribeaujm Posted May 7 Share #32 Posted May 7 Nice progress Shawn. I am also at the stage of removing the char from the frame parts. Yes it is a lot of work! I completed about 20 of those in 10 days. OK, back to sanding... Jean-Marc Rustyj and sfotinos 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted May 8 Author Share #33 Posted May 8 You are way ahead it sounds like, I would like to see your progress. Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted May 20 Author Share #34 Posted May 20 I have about 12 frames made, decided it was time to try and see how they looked on the keel. With that frame Aa doesn't extend all the way to the line on the plans. Actually none of them do. They do all line up with each other. Did I do something incorrect? I don't believe this is expected. Shawn JeffT, chris watton, Rustyj and 9 others 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted May 20 Share #35 Posted May 20 Nope your good…looks great. The line is really before fairing and removing any char at all. There is plenty of meat on those frames so you are doing perfectly. That is exactly how it should look and be. Mine was exactly the same. Ryland Craze, Rustyj, JeffT and 2 others 5 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baribeaujm Posted May 20 Share #36 Posted May 20 Nice Shawn, I am also making frames. I did a quick check with frame Ba (Aa not done yet). My frame is also slightly inside the line (less than 1/32 on each side). I was quite aggressive with my char removal and this could have slightly reduce the width of the frames. Also, a frame not perfectly square with the respect to the keel or slightly higher on one side than the other will bring the frame limit inside the line. I am curious to see if I get closer to the limit line once I have made all the necessary adjustments. I will keep you posted. Jean-Marc Rustyj and Ryland Craze 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuntflyer Posted May 22 Share #37 Posted May 22 On 5/20/2024 at 12:08 PM, baribeaujm said: Also, a frame not perfectly square with the respect to the keel or slightly higher on one side than the other will bring the frame limit inside the line. You could use machinist squares placed on each side of the frame and set the frame equidistant from the half breath lines on the plan. Freebird, JeffT, Rustyj and 2 others 5 Quote Current build - Sloop Speedwell 1752 (POF) Completed builds - 18 Century Longboat (POB) , HM Cutter Cheerful 1806 (POB), HMS Winchelsea 1764 (POB) Member: Ship Model Society of New Jersey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted May 26 Author Share #38 Posted May 26 I for the life of me cannot find any of the pieces to build frame 12a. Could I ask someone to look at their kits and let me know which billets I should be looking for these. Thanks in advance. Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seventynet Posted May 26 Share #39 Posted May 26 Hi Shawn, They seem to be scattered amongst several billets: chris watton, Ryland Craze, KentM and 1 other 4 Quote Builds in progress - Speedwell - by Syren Ship Model Company Builds completed - Hayling Hoy - by David Antscherl - Naval Cutter Cheerful - by Syren Ship Model Company - Cape Cod Catboat - by Bluejacket - Gokstad - by Dusek - Ship's Boat - by Dusek - Brazzera - by MarisStella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted May 26 Author Share #40 Posted May 26 I see 12f, but not 12a. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted May 26 Share #41 Posted May 26 That is a cant frame....its in chapter two.... Its cant frame #12 which is a half frame under the aft gunport. You need to finish all the other square frames first. The last square frame is 12F. Chuck Ryland Craze and KentM 2 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted May 26 Author Share #42 Posted May 26 Thanks so much! Chuck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted June 11 Author Share #43 Posted June 11 Before I attempt to start getting ready to permanently attach my frames. If I’m going to treenail them should I do it before I attach them and do the frames individually or after they are permanent and can do the whole run? Let there be frames… Thanks shawn JpR62, Rustyj, Trussben and 8 others 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freebird Posted June 12 Share #44 Posted June 12 Nice job on the frames! Lots of work indeed! I was thinking about the same thing, adding treenails to the frames before or after they are glued to the keel. My first thought is to (if you're adding them) is to do so before the frames are glued to the keel as they are easier to handle while in a free state. But then, if they are glued to the keel, you could make adjustments to their alignment to make sure you have consistency for the overall effect. I'm also thinking that a jig of some sort would give the consistency needed for a neat effort. Best Regards .... Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted June 12 Share #45 Posted June 12 It really doesnt matter. Whatever you find easier. thats a lot of frames Freebird, KentM and sfotinos 3 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted June 13 Author Share #46 Posted June 13 I assume this shouldn't matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted June 13 Share #47 Posted June 13 Nope ...not at all, LOL. That will all be removed and cut away anyway. sfotinos 1 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted June 22 Author Share #48 Posted June 22 So now I may be getting ahead of myself, but here we are. I am scared. shawn JeffT, Freebird, Seventynet and 6 others 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted June 24 Author Share #49 Posted June 24 I’m considering setting all the “tall frames”, and then go back setting the “small frames”. Or is it best to do the sweep port and gun port frames as I go? Shawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted June 25 Share #50 Posted June 25 It doesnt matter…whatever is more comfortable. sfotinos 1 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted July 2 Author Share #51 Posted July 2 There are only about 5 of these frames that are permanently attached. Some still need final adjustments. Chuck's jig system is pretty fool proof, some adjustment is needed. Not alot. On to working on the sweep ports/port sills. Shawn dvm27, KentM, davyboy and 13 others 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rustyj Posted July 2 Share #52 Posted July 2 That looks really good! Ryland Craze and sfotinos 2 Quote Rusty "So Long For Now" Current Builds: Speedwell Completed Build Logs: HMS Winchelsea 1/48 Duchess of Kingston USF Confederacy , US Brig Syren , Triton Cross Section , Bomb Vessel Cross Section, Cutter Cheerful, Queen Anne Barge, Medway Longboat Completed Build Gallery: Brig Syren , 1870 Mississippi Riverboat , 1949 Chris-Craft 19' Runabout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted July 2 Share #53 Posted July 2 Very Nice progress. sfotinos and Ryland Craze 2 Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfotinos Posted July 4 Author Share #54 Posted July 4 (edited) Happy 4th. Tried to get a little time in the shop today. However, I’m ready to work on sweep port DF and am unable to find it. Hopefully they weren’t on a different billet? Any insight would be appreciated. shawn Edited July 4 by sfotinos JeffT and Ryland Craze 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baribeaujm Posted July 5 Share #55 Posted July 5 Yes Df sweep ports seem to be missing. JeffT 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Posted July 5 Share #56 Posted July 5 Send me your address info via pm and i will mail them to you. chuck Quote Chuck Passaro - MSW Admin Sloop Speedwell - POF scratch Block Island Boat - POF scratch HMS Winchelsea - POB scratch build HM Cutter Cheerful - POB scratch build Royal Barge - POF scratch Medway Longboat- POF Scratch SYREN SHIP MODEL COMPANY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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