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Posted (edited)

Taken from the AL website.

 

HISTORY OF HMS SUPPLY: ARMED VESSEL OF THE 'FIRST FLEET' TO COLONIZE AUSTRALIA
 

Discover HMS Supply, a wooden model ship of the English armed brigantine sailboat from the 18th century that was an essential part of the so-called 'First Fleet' of the Royal Navy that colonized and founded Australia. HMS Supply was their oldest, smallest and fastest ship. Built in 1759 as a 175-ton armed vessel, it became the colony's only link to the outside world after the loss of HMS Sirius in 1790. HMS Supply, precisely, was intended to be a support ship for HMS Sirius (1786).

The HMS Supply was a brigantine or brig, that is, a ship that has two masts and square sails. In addition, it was also a sloop, that is, a small ship with a single gun deck. It had eight small three-pounder guns and carried 50 men. Its dimensions were 70 feets in length and 26 feets in width.

From 1759 to 1786, HMS Supply was used to transport naval supplies between Thames and English Channel ports. During this period, it was docked at Deptford Dockyard, where it needed minor repairs as necessary to maintain its seaworthiness.

On May 13th 1787, the 'First Fleet' left Plymouth – England – heading towards the antipodes. Under the command of Commodore Arthur Philip, the convoy of 11 ships carried 1,500 sailors and officers with their families, as well as 732 convicts. They were heading to the great land of the south to establish the penal colony of New South Wales - a coast previously explored by James Cook -, which would later become the first state of the Australian Commonwealth.

On January 19th 1788, eight months and a week later, the fleet arrived at Botany Bay, with HMS Supply being the first to dock. On January 26th 1788, seven days later, everyone arrived at Port Jackson – the future Port of Sydney – and Philip disembarked to proclaim on Australia's first national day and becoming the first governor of the new nation. The HMS Supply was the fastest sailing ship in the 'First Fleet' and served as explorer and messenger during the voyage. HMS Supply rivals Sirius as the most famous historic ship of the new Australian nation. On 26th November 1791, it left Port Jackson and sailed via Cape Horn, arriving at Plymouth on 21st April 1792.

It is, therefore, an essential ship in the history of Australia, the United Kingdom, Europe and the world.

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Posted (edited)

Thank you to Artesania Latina for the donation of this kit for review, along with a paint set and rivet marker

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comes in a dedicated printed box which is also poly wrapped to stop unwanted peeps into the box, and the potential loss of items 

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box opening

 

not a fantastic amount of contents, but what there is looks like quite decent quality

 

NO INSTRUCTIONS AT ALL, everything is online, im not sure what to do if you dont have a pc, but then i doubt you will be reading this anyway

looking online there are over 20 tutorial for this build, from unboxing to completion

 

there are two large 1/1 posters of the completed build, on the reverse is the kit contents

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everything in the box is well secured, and i found nothing that looked damaged at all

 

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no tiles, but a large roll of 5mm copper tape

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not a lot of PE, will please someIMG_9861.thumb.JPG.56913ef505990a24256e3f64d28c623b.JPG

 

we have a full sail set, these look very nice indeed

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and a crew of 7

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anchors, shooty things and oars also look ok

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box of fittings, blocks and tackle look reasonable quality, thread seams fluff free, printed flags (do i ever get that far to put them on)

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whats left in the box is all the laser cut wood, which looks very nice indeedIMG_9878.thumb.JPG.7c88a4994b3446b8a0805276d20866c4.JPGIMG_9879.thumb.JPG.c06a4c2bb03b8cd1d912d15432e7fb3f.JPGIMG_9880.thumb.JPG.5657bb1920bff510b5f71d2a4fe6007d.JPGIMG_9881.thumb.JPG.403186b6b579f3ec3404ab426cb0b75b.JPGIMG_9882.thumb.JPG.9e178a34a4ead59958ea75893758d75d.JPGIMG_9883.thumb.JPG.12dfaf61438e7861489ef9d412ce6479.JPG

 

 

 

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Posted (edited)

all in all this kit will make a very nice build, the overall quality looks ok for the asking price

 

pro's

advertised at £199, as of today i have not found anywhere that is selling it other than AL

sails

entry level, museum quality (whatever that means)

 

cons

no instructions

 

optional light set is available

 

Thank you again Artesania Latina for the donation of this kit 

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Posted (edited)
6 hours ago, mugje said:

The crew member with the hands covering his ears is pretty cool :D 

 

Nice review!👍

  Hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil ?

Edited by Snug Harbor Johnny

Completed builds:  Khufu Solar Barge - 1:72 Woody Joe

Current project(s): Gorch Fock restoration 1:100, Billing Wasa (bust) - 1:100 Billings, Great Harry (bust) 1:88 ex. Sergal 1:65

 

 

 

Posted
19 minutes ago, Kevin said:

i am not a NRG member, im not good enough to be a member, however i was not aware i had to research the kits that i review, its a way of informing others that new kits are on the market, that might be of interest, perhaps we need another thread, kits reviewed by non NRG members - rant over, and i wont bother again

You don't have to be 'good enough' to be a member of NRG Kevin, just pay the membership fee,  I'm a member  - case in point.🫤

B.E.

 

Posted
On 5/14/2024 at 9:37 AM, Kevin said:

….. museum quality (whatever that means)

 

It means it qualifies to be sold in the gift shop of a museum..😁

 

Regarding comments on historical accuracy,  if that were something most kit builders were concerned with, most kit manufacturers might as well close up shop.

 

For those who don’t care to lower their standards to build a kit, much less one with some historical inaccuracies, we shouldn’t discourage those who want to enjoy the hobby by building these kits.

 

Thanks for the review Kevin.

 

 

“Indecision may or may not be my problem.”
― Jimmy Buffett

Current builds:    Rattlesnake

On Hold:  HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett )

In the Gallery: Yacht Mary,  Gretel, French Cannon

Posted (edited)
16 minutes ago, allanyed said:

As mentioned above I am pretty sure there are no qualifications to join the NRG.  

 

I am also pretty sure no one is obligated to research a kit before giving a review.  There is nothing wrong with pointing out the things you like about a kit, but by the same token there is nothing wrong with others pointing out mistakes they find in those same kits.. The way I have learned so many things about ships of old are from those that, thankfully, pointed out the mistakes in my own work, and so it should be with the kits.  

Allan

 

 

fully agreed,

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  • 5 months later...
Posted
On 5/14/2024 at 2:37 PM, Kevin said:

all in all this kit will make a very nice build

Hi Kevin, thanks a very useful review, what is the wood they supply for the hull planking and deck planks?

When I finally finish my scratch built "Speedy" I quite fancy a kit to bash.

 

Tim

Current Builds :

 

Cutter "Speedy" 1828 from Plans by Bill Shoulders at 148


Bounty Launch - Scratch build - FINISHED
85 ft. Harbour Tug. scratch built  from plans by Francis Smith. ( FINISHED but no build log for this )

HMS Lightning. kit bashed from Deans Marine HMS Kelly kit ( FINISHED ) yes at last....

Posted
58 minutes ago, oakheart said:

I quite fancy a kit to bash

Oh dear I'm so easily seduced, I found it for £170 free PnP and could not resist adding it to my stash

 

https://artesanialatina.net/uk/en/62490-first-fleet-brig-hms-supply-1-50-wooden-model-ship-kit.html

 

Tim

Current Builds :

 

Cutter "Speedy" 1828 from Plans by Bill Shoulders at 148


Bounty Launch - Scratch build - FINISHED
85 ft. Harbour Tug. scratch built  from plans by Francis Smith. ( FINISHED but no build log for this )

HMS Lightning. kit bashed from Deans Marine HMS Kelly kit ( FINISHED ) yes at last....

Posted

I am surprised that more and more manufacturer anticipates builder have access to reliable internet and computer where one is building a model. I feel I am very fortunate having computer in my workshop.

 

Please, visit our Facebook page!

 

Respectfully

 

Per aka Dr. Per@Therapy for Shipaholics 
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Finished: T37, BB Marie Jeanne - located on a shelf in Sweden, 18th Century Longboat, Winchelsea Capstan

Current: America by Constructo, Solö Ruff, USS Syren by MS, Bluenose by MS

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Posted (edited)
On 5/14/2024 at 2:37 PM, Kevin said:

no instructions

Hi all, while waiting for my kit to arrive I skimmed through the construction videos, surprisingly there is no list of contents, so I cobbled one together.

Tim

 

link to videos. 

 

this is a rough contents list, if anyone would like to add to or amend it please feel free.

No.    content

 

1     keel, bulkheads and decks

 

2     deck tree nails, bulkhead planks, wiring the lighting

 

3     transom, planking the hull

 

4     filling the hull, fit keel, bulwarks, stand, mark out hull, fit rubbing strake

 

5     mask and paint upper bulwark, paint transom

 

6     make and fit mouldings on upper hull, fit spirketing, fit cap rails

 

7     hawse holes, gun ports, beak head, rear quarter windows, forward bitts

 

8     catheads, mast rings, curly bits on beak head, forward deck hatch, chimney

 

9    windlass made from brass sheet

 

10    Gratings and doors

 

11    cannons

 

12    belaying racks and capstan

 

13    hand rails aft and swivel guns

 

14    cover for rudder head on aft deck, copper on hull
 

15    stern windows, rudder and tiller

 

16    channels, deadeyes, tiller ropes

 

17    hangers, pumps

 

18    bowsprit with rigging, stern arms and chains

 

19    fore and main mast, they look the same which is not correct?

 

20    mast stays ( ropes ) fore and aft, main mast fan ropes?

 

21    more stays, fore and aft, upper ratlines

 

22    sheets, stays ( not main ratlines )

 

23    yards,

 

24    boom, pinrail, other sails and rigging

 

25    triangular sails, more running rigging, more rigging

 

26    square sails, running rigging for them,

 

27    next square sail and rigging

 

28    fore topsail and rigging

 

29    mainsail and rigging

 

30    next sail and more running rigging, lifts

 

31    topsail and lift rigging

 

32    bowsprit and other running rigging, anchors and rigging them

 

33    constructing the ships boat,

 

34    stand and nameplate, boat arm, wiring for lighting

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spelling :-)

Current Builds :

 

Cutter "Speedy" 1828 from Plans by Bill Shoulders at 148


Bounty Launch - Scratch build - FINISHED
85 ft. Harbour Tug. scratch built  from plans by Francis Smith. ( FINISHED but no build log for this )

HMS Lightning. kit bashed from Deans Marine HMS Kelly kit ( FINISHED ) yes at last....

Posted
On 11/14/2024 at 9:15 AM, oakheart said:

I found it for £170 free PnP and could not resist adding it to my stash

Ha, Ha that will teach me to be so hot headed, just got a bill from UPS for £45.50 import tax, I blame Brexit.

But it's still marginally cheaper than a UK supplier...........

 

Tim

Current Builds :

 

Cutter "Speedy" 1828 from Plans by Bill Shoulders at 148


Bounty Launch - Scratch build - FINISHED
85 ft. Harbour Tug. scratch built  from plans by Francis Smith. ( FINISHED but no build log for this )

HMS Lightning. kit bashed from Deans Marine HMS Kelly kit ( FINISHED ) yes at last....

Posted

The kit arrived in good shape and on time .
Delivery took 7 days from placing the order, so well done Artesania Latina and UPS.

Eagerly opened it up, all of the parts look good the ply sheets are flat and there is no twisting or bends.

Not sure I will use the sails?
I will  be making some better scale ropes to replace the sad looking threads that come with the kit.

 

But for now it goes up on the shelf while I finish my scratch build of HMS Speedy ( 1828 ).

 

Tim

Current Builds :

 

Cutter "Speedy" 1828 from Plans by Bill Shoulders at 148


Bounty Launch - Scratch build - FINISHED
85 ft. Harbour Tug. scratch built  from plans by Francis Smith. ( FINISHED but no build log for this )

HMS Lightning. kit bashed from Deans Marine HMS Kelly kit ( FINISHED ) yes at last....

Posted (edited)

With all the excellent work you are doing with Speedy, I have to believe some sail making is in your future.

 

Take a look at what DrPr is doing with Albatros.

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“Indecision may or may not be my problem.”
― Jimmy Buffett

Current builds:    Rattlesnake

On Hold:  HMS Resolution ( AKA Ferrett )

In the Gallery: Yacht Mary,  Gretel, French Cannon

Posted
19 hours ago, Gregory said:

I have to believe some sail making is in your future

I have some silkspan to play with, so you never know.

Thanks for the compliments on "Speedy"

Tim

Current Builds :

 

Cutter "Speedy" 1828 from Plans by Bill Shoulders at 148


Bounty Launch - Scratch build - FINISHED
85 ft. Harbour Tug. scratch built  from plans by Francis Smith. ( FINISHED but no build log for this )

HMS Lightning. kit bashed from Deans Marine HMS Kelly kit ( FINISHED ) yes at last....

Posted (edited)
19 hours ago, Gregory said:

 

Take a look at what DrPr is doing with Albatros

Thanks @Gregory for the link, I have just had a quick look.

It mentions mast angles, which brings up a question with this AL Supply kit, the profile image that comes with the kit is at odds with the drawing that Karl Marquardt did for the March 1993 ship modeler magazine. 

The AL shows it with a definite forward lean.

This contemporary painting of a 'Snow' which I believe is a similar ship, shows the masts vertical.

https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/rmgc-object-12513

more information is required to see which is correct.

 

Not sure if this is the right place for this discussion, should I start a new build log for my research ?

Tim

Edited by oakheart

Current Builds :

 

Cutter "Speedy" 1828 from Plans by Bill Shoulders at 148


Bounty Launch - Scratch build - FINISHED
85 ft. Harbour Tug. scratch built  from plans by Francis Smith. ( FINISHED but no build log for this )

HMS Lightning. kit bashed from Deans Marine HMS Kelly kit ( FINISHED ) yes at last....

Posted (edited)
3 hours ago, oakheart said:

Thanks @Gregory for the link, I have just had a quick look.

It mentions mast angles, which brings up a question with this AL Supply kit, the profile image that comes with the kit is at odds with the drawing that Karl Marquardt did for the March 1993 ship modeler magazine. 

The AL shows it with a definite forward lean.

This contemporary painting of a 'Snow' which I believe is a similar ship, shows the masts vertical.

https://www.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/rmgc-object-12513

more information is required to see which is correct.

 

Not sure if this is the right place for this discussion, should I start a new build log for my research ?

Tim

Please start a new log for the build, i will follow your lead when i get round to building mine

Edited by Kevin
Posted
6 hours ago, Kevin said:

Please start a new log for the build

Thanks Kevin, here is the new log.

 

 

Current Builds :

 

Cutter "Speedy" 1828 from Plans by Bill Shoulders at 148


Bounty Launch - Scratch build - FINISHED
85 ft. Harbour Tug. scratch built  from plans by Francis Smith. ( FINISHED but no build log for this )

HMS Lightning. kit bashed from Deans Marine HMS Kelly kit ( FINISHED ) yes at last....

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