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Does it make sense to use the Byrnes saw for the very thin second planking of most models?  Are there special precautions required?

I am just wondering, my Chopper is no longer usable so should I try to use the Byrnes. it is a powerful little saw and not sure that crosscuts using a sliding table would be a good idea?

If not, what, at a reasonable price, would best replace the Shortline Chopper?

 

thank you,

richard

Richard
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Richard, I am a little confused - do you have a Byrnes Table saw or not?

That is my first question as the machines aren't available anymore for the moment.
The Byrnes table saw is powerful enough for crosscut using a sliding table. But for thin cuts you have other options.
In your situation there is Shortline Chopper II
I have the original one based on the paper-wood board. I would recommend the new chopper or other electric cutters that are available,

 

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Thank you for responding.  I have the Byrnes Saw, along with the Byrnes Thickness Sander, for a number of years now. I do not use it often, but when I do its great.  But, I felt it was too powerful to use on very thin, i.e. second planking wood strips.  I have a very old chopper that, after years, is starting to wear where the blade touches the black circular cutting stop. I looked at taking it apart to try and smooth or replace it but it seems to be one piece with the angle arm. It still works but I'm not always getting a clean cut at the bottom. 

Anyway, I am considering trying my hand at a scratch build and thought to look for a replacement or even a more accurate, and faster way of chopping.  The chopper II is on Amazon for $85, a bit steep.  There is a great looking machine that miss Olga showed on her YouTube videos, but it is well over a hundred dollars, and uses proprietary blades.

Being honest with myself, I can get fairly decent cuts, with a flat tip Exacto knife... if I am careful and work very slowly.  So this purchase becomes a luxury more than a necessity. 

The little electric chop saws I saw are pretty inexpensive compared to the manual ones, but not sure if I will end up with shredded cuts. 

So I was wondering if any of them would be good for very thin cuts, or should I bite the bullet and continue to look for manual cutters/choppers.

Any ideas would be appreciated

Thanks

Richard

Richard
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                Atlanta Model Shipwrights

Current build: Syren

                       

Posted (edited)

Are you going to do mostly right angle cuts?

 

 I put together very reliable miter that works with very thin saws and single edge razor blades.

I you are interested I can put some pictures up.

 

l also use my Proxxon FET for cutting thin stuff an don’t have trouble with tearing that can’t be remedied with light sanding if it needs it at all.

 

 

 

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Ultimation makes a great hand chopper and hand sander: 

https://ultimation.ca/collections/all-products

 

This is the one Olga highlighted on her YouTube channel I believe.

 

Note the blade for the chopper are not proprietary. They're just a particular kind of single-bevel blade I think used in upholstery. I ordered extras directly from them when I ordered my chopper because it was easier than hunting for them elsewhere.

 

I use both the chopper and sander quite a bit. They're small and I can just set them on my work table when I'm using them and easily set them aside when I don't need them (on another table or on the floor). 

Posted

    I have the Ultimation hand disk sander as well.  In general, I don't like it as much as my Byrnes disk sander, but it is far more portable...and quite useful.  I find, however, it must be clamped to the workbench or it slides all over the place.

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