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Hello everyone

 

First of all, I searched the forum but couldn't see a title. If there is and I didn't open it in the right place, I'm very sorry. 

 

While chatting with my instructor at the workshop today, I said that I wanted to paint the Taka I was working on. He also told me that you did good planking, I think we shouldn't paint it. He added that the painting process is to hide the error and defects, the wooden image reveals the quality of the workmanship. 

 

I would like to ask you if this opinion is valid only for my country or for the entire model shipping community. 

 

Yes, the wooden look looks very natural and beautiful, but I also want to paint my ships. I also want to make money in this business. What would be your advice on this issue? 

 

Yours truly. 

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I can't speak to what would make more money (from what I understand, model making is quite a tricky endeavor to make profitable). But as for paint vs natural finish, it's really a matter of style. Most workboats would have been painted or otherwise at least partially covered with some sort of material, like tar, as a protective measure. So if your goal is to make an accurate representation of what one of these vessels looked like, paint would be necessary. But modelers frequently avoid straight realism for something more stylized--think, for instance, of the many models out there with exposed framing. Highlighting the natural colors of the wood is a stylistic choice that can be quite nice. All of which is to say, painting isn't just to cover mistakes, but whether to paint or not is a stylistic decision for you to make based on what you're going for. 

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If you want a model to look like real life then very good painting technique (weathering) can make it real.

Otherwise whatever is the most beautiful to you is best, painted or not.

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If you want to make a loving at modeling then you need to know what the customer wants.

 

It seems to me that there are three types of models. One is what the builder likes. The second is an attempt at historical accuracy. The third is a product that will sell commercially. If you want to sell your models you should investigate what is selling.

 

Some commercial models are cheap junk intended  as "souvenirs" for the average tourist who wouldn't know a ship from an elephant. Accuracy isn't important. "Pretty" is. They are for the tourist market, and are produced in large quantities.

 

At the other extreme are the very accurate models built to order for specific customers. These are representations of vessels in the state the customer wants them built. Look at some of Valeriy V's exquisite models for examples. These are one-off models built for a single buyer.

 

In between are builder's models and "Admiralty" style models intended to show the buyer of the real ships what they would look like. These tended to have lots of polished brass and varnished wood that wouldn't be seen on the real vessel.

 

What do you want to do?

Phil

 

Current build: USS Cape MSI-2

Previous build: Vanguard Models 18 foot cutter

Previous build: Albatros topsail schooner

Previous build: USS Oklahoma City CLG-5 CAD model

 

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My understanding of modeling and painting is growing as I build more models. I said that the weathering is covering a mistake a year ago. Now I make a flawed surface to build intended weathering effects. :) Control every mil and 0.01 millimeter.

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I believe it is all down to personal choice. I personaly prefare to paint my models. The ones I have made from wood do look nice unpainted, but I find them much better looking painted. And also what type of ship you are building. I look at a lot of models  here on MSW and online and usually find that most of the masted ships do look better unpainted. However when I go on holiday to a coastal area and visit one of the harbours, especially a working fishing harbour I enjoy lookig at all the boats in all  their different colours and find a lot of inspiration for my own models. 

Paul

In Work: HMS Hood

Finished: -queen-mary-2

Finished: rms-titanic-1912

Finished: king-of-the-Mississippi

Finished: Sanson

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