JesseLee Posted July 25, 2014 Share #661 Posted July 25, 2014 Enjoy your vacation. Looking forward to your return! Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkb Posted July 25, 2014 Share #662 Posted July 25, 2014 Have a blast in Maine & N.H. Jason, some nice sea ports not so far from there I think. Stay Well Eamonn Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort stoll Posted July 26, 2014 Share #663 Posted July 26, 2014 Enjoy Jason, enjoy. Mort Quote Current Build - Caldercraft Victory Completed - Artesiana Latina Swift, Harvey, MGS Prince de Neufchatel, Imai USS Susquehanna, Mamoli Constitution, Rattlesnake per Hunt Practium, Caldercraft Snake, Diana, Kammerlander Duke William Waiting to be Launched - Bluejacket Constitution Proud member of The New Jersey Ship Model Society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted July 26, 2014 Share #664 Posted July 26, 2014 Have a good break Jason, I'm sure the weather will behave itself, if not we have some spare heat over here you can have. Looking forward to your return mate. Be Good mobbsie Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted July 26, 2014 Share #665 Posted July 26, 2014 Summer days especially in Greece are so long.. You can't spend your time at the shipyard... Enjoy your summer-time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted October 6, 2014 Share #666 Posted October 6, 2014 ...... To help secure the yard to the mast I inserted a small length of brass wire and drilled a hole in the mast, as well as installing the sling cleats ................ Hi Jason why did you drill holes in the mast to attach tle sling cleats? Did you expect a "appreciable" tension/load on them during next stages of rigging etc? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted October 6, 2014 Author Share #667 Posted October 6, 2014 Stergios - no hole was drilled for the sling cleats, the hole was for some wire in the back of the yard that will attach to the mast. Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted October 6, 2014 Share #668 Posted October 6, 2014 OK Jason, you've snuck back into the shipyard mate so where's the update then. Be Good mobbsie Beef Wellington 1 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted October 6, 2014 Share #669 Posted October 6, 2014 Jason, I'm with mobbsie, what's up mate?!?!? I don't have any progress (to be expected ), but you certainly do ... Beef Wellington 1 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted October 6, 2014 Share #670 Posted October 6, 2014 Stergios - no hole was drilled for the sling cleats, the hole was for some wire in the back of the yard that will attach to the mast. Thanks again Jason. Well guys, I feel a bit confused with the manual on the yards assembly and attachments... I prefer to stay and wait to see your progress first, one way or another. In every case I've to deal with the placement of the lowermasts now. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share #671 Posted October 7, 2014 Mobbsie, Carl - I'm sorry to disappoint, but there really are no updates. I have looked in longingly to the shipyard for some weeks now but have been staring in longingly! I've completely blown my timeline I was hoping to have 'Jason' at least first planked by now and then move back to Snake to hopefully get her closer to completion over the Winter. Stergios - I'm sure you can manage it, think if you follow the plans you'll do just fine. Just as a suggestion you could get going with the standing rigging if you have the masts completed - that should give you plenty of time to think about your approach on the yards drtrap 1 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted October 8, 2014 Share #672 Posted October 8, 2014 (edited) .................Just as a suggestion you could get going with the standing rigging if you have the masts completed - that should give you plenty of time to think about your approach on the yards That's a good choice Jason. It's a long trip doing the standing rigging. The masts are almost completed. Thanks Edited October 8, 2014 by Stergios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtrap Posted October 19, 2014 Share #673 Posted October 19, 2014 (edited) Hi Jason, do you have any information about the length of the burton pendants? Is there any length difference between those of mizzen mast and those of main mast? I'm studying "Rigging period ship models" but olny the plans are illustrated.... Thanks. Edited October 19, 2014 by Stergios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted October 20, 2014 Author Share #674 Posted October 20, 2014 Stergios - they hang around 35-38mm below the tops, but don't let that number give you a false sense of accuracy. I simply used the pictures in Petersson to estimate this, the rest was just what seemed to look right to me. I wouldn't obsess over it, individual rigging items are the focus when you're doing them, but its amazing how the it all starts to blend together. Good luck! mort stoll and drtrap 2 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texxn5 Posted October 31, 2014 Share #675 Posted October 31, 2014 Hello Jason, you've been missing from the log longer than I have. I'm trying to get back to work again. How have you been...is all ok? Hope things are ok on your side. John Beef Wellington 1 Quote John Current Current Builds: US Brig Niagara on my website FINISHED BUILD LOGS: New Bedford Whaleboat - page on my Morgan Website: http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com/whaleboat-build-log-by-john-fleming.html C.W. Morgan - Model Shipways 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1785-cw-morgan-by-texxn5-johnf-ms-164-kit/ USS Constitution - Revell 1:96 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1796-uss-constitution-by-texxn5-johnf-revell-196-kit/ website US Brig Niagara Model http://www.niagaramodel.com website Charles W Morgan Model http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com website PROXXON DISCOUNT TOOL STORE http://proxxontoolsdiscount.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_smits Posted October 31, 2014 Share #676 Posted October 31, 2014 (edited) Hello Jason, you've been missing from the log longer than I have. I'm trying to get back to work again. How have you been...is all ok? Hope things are ok on your side. John I think Jason has been distracted by his other build.... Not that i'm much better...... Edited October 31, 2014 by jim_smits drtrap and Beef Wellington 2 Quote Jim-----Current builds:HMS SnakeHMS HoodMechanical Solar SystemCompleted builds:HMS Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted October 31, 2014 Author Share #677 Posted October 31, 2014 Hi John - Jim's right, have been a bit distracted . Just a very busy time of year with family sports activities. Any time that I have had in the shipyard I've been trying to get a head start on the new build (HMS Jason) so I could take advantage of good weather outside for sanding on the hull planking. That plan didn't work too well as I had a few issues with the kit which needed replacement and took longer to figure out what I wanted and how I was going to approach the build. I'll be back to hopefully finish up Snake over the winter. egkb and texxn5 2 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texxn5 Posted November 6, 2014 Share #678 Posted November 6, 2014 Once the ship is fully rigged only the people you told about it (if they remember that far away) would even know it and probably not at all. If you're happy....we're all happy..Captain's perogative. Beef Wellington and mort stoll 2 Quote John Current Current Builds: US Brig Niagara on my website FINISHED BUILD LOGS: New Bedford Whaleboat - page on my Morgan Website: http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com/whaleboat-build-log-by-john-fleming.html C.W. Morgan - Model Shipways 1:64 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1785-cw-morgan-by-texxn5-johnf-ms-164-kit/ USS Constitution - Revell 1:96 http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/1796-uss-constitution-by-texxn5-johnf-revell-196-kit/ website US Brig Niagara Model http://www.niagaramodel.com website Charles W Morgan Model http://www.charleswmorganmodel.com website PROXXON DISCOUNT TOOL STORE http://proxxontoolsdiscount.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted May 28, 2015 Author Share #679 Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) I'm finally back at it. Very little time for anything for some time, but the break from Snake has brought me back more energized than ever to get her finished. I'll probably continue to provide step by step photo updates on the rigging as reminders for me and maybe something helpful to others. Not much, but evidence of progress. Foretopmast stay completed and belayed, and boomkins installed... Edited May 28, 2015 by Beef Wellington dafi, egkb, Dfell and 12 others 15 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted May 28, 2015 Share #680 Posted May 28, 2015 Jason, Good to see you at it. Nice work, even if it's little to show for, it's progress. I see you broke out fresh anchor cables Beef Wellington 1 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny.amy Posted May 28, 2015 Share #681 Posted May 28, 2015 Jason, You've done a great job on HMS Snake so far! Your model has really inspired me to build the Snake, provided I get the go ahead from the Admiral! Keep up the good work!!! Cheers, Jonny Beef Wellington 1 Quote Current Build: Caldercraft HM Cutter Sherbourne Kit Bash - Scale 1:64 - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10547-hm-cutter-sherbourne-by-jonnyamy-caldercraft-kit-bash-scale-164/#entry317289 !!!ON HOLD!!! Mantura/Sergal HMS President - Scale 1:60 - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/5589-hms-president-by-jonnyamy-circa-1760-sergal-160/ In the Pipeline: 18th Century Longboat - Scale 1;48 - - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11273-18th-century-longboat-model-shipways-by-jonnyamy/ Completed Builds: 40 Foot Gaff Cutter - Solid Hull Concept Model Caldercrafter HM Mortar Vessel Convulsion - Scale 1:64 - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/8593-hm-mortor-vessel-convulsion-by-jonnyamy/ SCRATCH BUILD - Vagabond 19 foot Sloop - Scale 1:20 - http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10172-vagabond-19-6-keel-sloop-pob-scale-120-by-jonnyamy-small/#entry302726 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirabell61 Posted May 28, 2015 Share #682 Posted May 28, 2015 Nice to see you posting again Jason, the HMS Snake is coming on beautifuly Nils Beef Wellington and mort stoll 2 Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mort stoll Posted May 29, 2015 Share #683 Posted May 29, 2015 Welcome back. You were missed. Mort Beef Wellington 1 Quote Current Build - Caldercraft Victory Completed - Artesiana Latina Swift, Harvey, MGS Prince de Neufchatel, Imai USS Susquehanna, Mamoli Constitution, Rattlesnake per Hunt Practium, Caldercraft Snake, Diana, Kammerlander Duke William Waiting to be Launched - Bluejacket Constitution Proud member of The New Jersey Ship Model Society Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_smits Posted May 29, 2015 Share #684 Posted May 29, 2015 Welcome back to the Snake club Jason...! Beef Wellington 1 Quote Jim-----Current builds:HMS SnakeHMS HoodMechanical Solar SystemCompleted builds:HMS Ballahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted June 3, 2015 Author Share #685 Posted June 3, 2015 Carl, Jonny, Nils, Mort and Jim and the 'likes', thanks for the "welcome back"... Breaking up shaping the remaining yards with the first of what I suspect will be a lot of work on rigging the yards, the lower sling. Previously estimated length of line was served, and then fed through itself to make a loop. About 6mm was left to allow the end to be cut into a short taper. GS Hypo glue was then placed on the end and rolled between my fingers. The thin thread is the end of the serving line not yet trimmed) Thread was then used to cover the unserved join, I used consecutive overhand knots, alternating sides.... Maybe a little bulky, but once trimmed its a reasonable approximation to a spliced, served loop. Fitted to the main yard.... ....and length checked to confirm it is of correct length. Second time was a charm! drtrap, Sjors, egkb and 13 others 16 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JesseLee Posted June 3, 2015 Share #686 Posted June 3, 2015 Nicely done! Quote Current build: Syren : Kit- Model Shipways Side project: HMS Bounty - Revel -(plastic) On hold: Pre-owned, unfinished Mayflower (wood) Past builds: Scottish Maid - AL- 1:50, USS North Carolina Battleship -1/350 (plastic), Andromede - Dikar (wood), Yatch Atlantic - 14" (wood), Pirate Ship - 1:72 (plastic), Custom built wood Brig from scratch - ?(3/4" =1'), 4 small scratch builds (wood), Vietnamese fishing boat (wood) & a Ship in a bottle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted June 3, 2015 Share #687 Posted June 3, 2015 Lovely job Jason, the rigging is a part of the build I love doing, it's very satisfying when it all works out, and you must be a very satisfied builder right now. Be Good mobbsie mtaylor and JesseLee 2 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted June 3, 2015 Share #688 Posted June 3, 2015 Very strong comeback Jason!!! Maybe you could be titled the comeback kid ;-) JesseLee and mtaylor 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Wellington Posted June 16, 2015 Author Share #689 Posted June 16, 2015 (edited) JesseLee, Mobbsie,Carl, and the likes - thanks for all the positive comments Continuing with the main yard: After adding a few of the requisite blocks, it was finally time to figure out how to tackle the stirrups and horses. The instructions indicate using wire, but I wanted something a little more realistic so tried making with 0.5mm line. Made the usual false splice into a length of line using an offcut of .75mm wire to get eye of appropriate size. These were then lashed around the yard in the appropriate places and diluted PVA applied to add some stiffness and secure in place. A length of wire was used to try to keep the eyes aligned and clamps provided a small amount of tension while glue dried. Instructions indicate the eye should be 15mm below the yard, I reduced this to 13mm as Ifelt it looked a little more to scale, and also seemed to match up better with diagrams in the AOTS series. I also decided to use 3 stirrups per side against the 2 indicated on the plans as the spacing looked too great to my eye. Horses were then added with yet more false splices around the center of the yard and around the cleats. The cleats were the smallest I could manage but seem to be what is required to keep to appropriate scale. The cleats are installed 1/20th of the length of the yard from the end. I had previously used paper to simulate the iron bands for the end boom iron. Yard dryfitted. Although the stirrups and horses will need a little bit of adjusting wjhen finally in position, I'm pretty happy with the result. Now need to replicate on the remaining yards now the plan of attack has been determined. Its amazing how congested things are getting, not sure how I'll manage to get the trusses on and the sling lashing when I get there, but thats a challenge for the future. Edited June 17, 2015 by Beef Wellington jim_smits, JesseLee, Harvey and 13 others 16 Quote Cheers, Jason "Which it will be ready when it is ready!" In the shipyard: HMS Jason (c.1794: Artois Class 38 gun frigate) Queen Anne Royal Barge (c.1700) Finished: HMS Snake (c.1797: Cruizer Class, ship rigged sloop) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egkb Posted June 16, 2015 Share #690 Posted June 16, 2015 Brilliant Stuff Mate.. She's really coming together now ! All The Best Eamonn Beef Wellington 1 Quote Current Build : HM Schooner Ballahoo In the Pipeline : HM Cutter Sherbourne, HM Mortar Convulsion, Emma C Berry & C18th English Longboat.. Eventually That Is..🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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