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Mike, perhaps you are one of those aliens that has multiple appendages from the Men In Black series of movies?

JD

 

Current build: Schooner Mary Day (scratch)

 

Previous builds:  Model Shipways Pride of Baltimore 2, Amati HMS Endeavour, Midwest Muscongus Bay Lobster Smack, Bluejacket America, Midwest Sharpie Schooner

 

 

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Nah, I just borrowed a phone selfie stick / tripod contraption from my teenage daughter and used a "photo timer" feature on the phone :) It is an essential item for her, how would you do some outdoor selfies and group photos otherwise?

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Tools update time! :)
A friend printed some vacuum adapters for me
The one for the planer works like a charm! Using the model from Oliver (see https://modelshipworld.com/topic/36705-suction-adapter-for-the-proxxon-dh40-for-download)

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Table saw received an update as well, the factory design is squeezing all the air through a narrow opening, generating a whistling noise louder than the actual saw. Now the opening is opened up, so the air can flow freely with a nice wind noise :)
Link to the model: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:4742157
Since I was short on space - decided to make the adapter removable, on magnets. To improve the connection a groove should be machined.
It was impossible to clamp that soft plastic part on the lathe, it was just sliding out of the chuck :(
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So I milled it on the rotary table. A single flute mill makes a dramatic difference - the dual flute quickly jams with a blob of melted plastic, while a single flute cuts clear separated chips (that are light, fly all over the place and get stuck to everything, argh).
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The resulting performance is not as great as on the planer, some dust still escapes, but it is still a great improvement comparing to the default adapter. 

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Can absolutely recommend both upgrades, especially the planer!

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Experimenting with different woods for the Pillars in the Hold. 


Thought it might be a good opportunity to use Pink Ivory that I had in the stash for some reason. 
It is a very beautiful wood with pink shavings, indeed! 

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A simple jig really helps to hold these tiny pieces when shaping. Scraping is a great way to get a smooth surface with a clean edge!
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Completed test pieces. The one with a tenon was finished with Osmo Polyx and the one on the left (with no tenon) has no finish.

For colour comparison I made a photo on top of some pear parts (one finished and one - a rough sheet cutoff)

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Pink Ivory has a clearly pronounced grain resembling walnut, clearly out of scale. Though pillars in the hold definitely have a rough life :)  I might still go with it, it might add an interesting accent deep in inside the hull when viewed from the side:
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As most of such woods it would likely loose its beautiful colour when exposed to UV, and would likely become brown-ish. I left these test pieces exposed on the table and will check them in a couple of months. Does anyone have any experience with this wood?

 

What do think on the colour? I don't want my model to look like a clown car, but a bit of variety might not hurt :) 

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I've not used it but it gives it a finished "painted" look.

I prefer a natural wood look and I like it when details stand out!

Alan O'Neill
"only dead fish go with the flow"   :dancetl6:

Ongoing Build (31 Dec 2013) - HMS BELLEROPHON (1786), POF scratch build, scale 1:64, 74 gun 3rd rate Man of War, Arrogant Class

Member of the Model Shipwrights of Niagara, Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada (2016), and the Nautical Research Guild (since 2014)

Associate member of the Nautical Research and Model Ship Society (2021)

Offshore member of The Society of Model Shipwrights (2021)

Out of State member of the New Bern Maritime Modelers Guild (2025)

Posted

I have no experience with this wood.  How hard is it?  I would probably use it for things like hatch covers rather than pillars.

Toni


Director Nautical Research Guild

Member Nautical Research and Model Society

Member Midwest Model Shipwrights

Member IPMS

 

Current Builds:     Utrecht-1742

Completed Builds: Longboat - 1:48 scale       HMS Atalanta-1775 - 1:48 scale       Half Hull Planking Project      Capstan Project     Swallow 1779 - 1:48 scale      Echo Cross Section   NRG Rigging Project 

                           Utrecht-1742

Gallery:  Hannah - 1:36 scale.

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Thanks Druxey and Alan! Sometimes a little nudge is all we need :) 
 

Toni, it feels similar to pear or box when it comes to hardness, definitely not soft. Holds an edge pretty well, but despite a clean geometrical shape the edge blurs visually due to the grain of the wood.

But definitely an interesting wood to have in your palette. Will report in a couple of months on the way it ages!

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It's been 1.5 months of "aging" the Pink Ivory sample - the plank was laying on one specific side in a sunlight on my table, but not in an extreme way, sun hits it at an angle. As expected, it got darker, almost like a fresh vs aged red brick :) Coincidentally I bought that piece of Ivory because of the build log where brick oven was made out of pink ivory "bricks": https://modelshipworld.com/topic/11140-washington-galley-by-yamsterman-148-scale-pof/?do=findComment&comment=436782

 

To simplify the comparison I split it in half, the difference is clear (on the second photo both halves are flipped).

No sanding to avoid damaging the "patina" layer, so sorry for some stains or fingerprints. Text says "shadow" and "exposed", but you can easily guess which one is which :D 

Both pillars were also in a direct sunlight, and looks like the one with Osmo finish aged tiny little bit less.

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Even when aged they look quite fine, and I think I'll go with it instead of a pear / box / ebony that are the usual candidates :) 

The texture is interesting - it has some grain, but not extreme like a walnut. It looks rougher when surrounded by the pear/box hull, but not too extreme or out of scale, even on close-up photos:

 

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(I know that this is not how pillars are attached to the beams, these are just test pieces freestanding on the keelson)

 

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Next was the fitting the lower deck beams.
Fairly straightforward and the alignment "jig" helped, though awkward to use (need to clamp its parts in a specific sequence, I dropped parts of the contraption into the hull many times, etc).
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Of course my deck clamps were not perfectly level to begin with, so some notches needed to be cut deeper than necessary to ensure a level deck.
A curved Vallorbe file came in really handy to tune the depth of some notches!
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Once all beams were horizontal - the run of the deck was already quite fair, with only a minor adjustments to be done for a couple of beams.
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I was worried it would be a never ending process of alignment (fixing one dimension just to re-align the other), but it was not that bad.
End result. Note the tiny gaps on the right side, I do not want beams to push into the frames on both ends to prevent any buckling or tilting due to the seasonal wood movement. The gap would be hidden by the inner planking on the right side, while allowing the hull to "breathe" a bit. 
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My mind got carried away with plans for the deck structure, all the carlings and ledges, thinking how I would approach the construction. Marking up in situ? Making some paper template? Add temporary spacers to lift the deck in one "piece"? Use some rubber bands to firmly fix beams in position without drilling pin holes? 
Oh, right, that comes much later, I only did them to install pillars... :) 

I then remarked the true centerline using a string and placed these two test pillars under a beam.
To my horror the beams standing on the keelson looked clearly off-center! The centerline string was already removed by that point, so I pulled two strings for a quick illustration.
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After careful checks the reason was found - the keelson is not perfectly level and is glued slightly tilted, resulting in a skewed pillar if you just place it on top. No big deal, can be easily compensated for. Luckily there is no issue with an off-center keelson or an incorrect hull shape. Always a bit scared of finding some critical mistake done 10 years ago... 🫣 
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