Amerigo Vespucci 1931 by schiffebastler - Mantua - scale 1:84 - Italian sail training ship build

[schiffebastler]

... now you can see the third sea ladder, which is displayed for official greetings.

In this case, the two sea ladder segments are pulled down, but the lower ladder is not used. This ladder is pulled up with the gallow and put on an outrigger. What is not shown at the model, there has to be put an additional gangway onto the second podium square to the other ladders. This is put at the other side on the pier.

For this show purpose there are used stanchions with wooden handrails. Above the last podium there is put a small canopy. If you are looking closely, you can see small lamps below the handrails. These lamps are build of acrylic glass with a diamater of 1 mm and length of 1.5mm.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

... and again one
 

 

[schiffebastler]

... the last shown is a crane outrigger for each sea ladder.

With these outriggers the lower ladder is feered. For this purpose, there is used a block and a tackle at which the gallow with the chains is fixed.

 

 

 

 

 

On the journey, the either only the chains or the gallow and the chains are taken out (I have seen both on pictures).





Ok, now I am ready! Thanks for your patience!



Regards, Joachim

 

[schiffebastler]

Thank you Gary!

The kit itself unfortunately does not contain all these details. So it is always necessary to look for a lot of picture and additional informations. Sometimes it takes a lot of effort to get the necessary amount of details.

 

Regards, Joachim

[laps]

Hi Joachim

Magnificent work on the stairs - they look really good. I have one question though. Looking at photos of the real ship you're right that there are only three stairs for entering the main deck (no stairs for the foremost starboard entry way.)

Do you have any idea what this entry way is used for then?

I'm have looked much into building the stairs myself yet. Want to fit them after the rigging is done so I don't accidently knock the off. Does the kit show three or four stairs being fitted?

 

I found this photo on this entry way being used (at least I think it is the right one) while the ship was being repaired. Perhaps it is only used for dockside entrance.

 

 

/Lars Peter

[schiffebastler]

Hi Peter,

 

really interessting this picture... For the moment, I have no right idea, but I just send a mail to somebody who lived and worked on the Amerigo for one year.

 

Regards, Joachim

[WackoWolf]

Beautiful work. I am enjoying this build very much. I like the way that you are showing the pictures. Keep the pictures coming.

[schiffebastler]

Thank you very much for your interest! And of course I will keep the pictures coming.

 

Regards, Joachim

[WackoWolf]

You have done some excellent work on the ladders, good detail. Keep the pictures coming.

[schiffebastler]

Hello,

 

today some small parts for the davits. Later it will be a problem to fix them, so I do it now. Each davit gets a deflection for the rope, a clamp and a holder for the ropes.

 

On this picture you can see the test parts.

 

 

 

And now the different small parts. All the nets took a long time to produce because of the small ropes which had to be weaved in.

But the nets can not be fixed until the ratlines are ready.

 

 

 

And now a picture which shows the details on the model. I am always a bit disappointed, whenever I see the inaccurate parts in the macro pictures - not really to see with the eyes, but now I know them ...

 

 

 

 

And Peter (@laps), to your question concerning the doors, obviously there exists also a door at the front of the starboard side of the ship. In the meantime, I found also other pictures which confirm this.

 

 

Regards, Joachim

 

[schiffebastler]

And again some parts which are not part of the kit, like most of all the parts I showed here. But the Amerigo contains them, so the have to be added.

 

First some container for ropes ...

 

 

 

then some bollards for the rear part of the ship ...

 

 

 

and now a sort of a search game, in order to find them on the model

 

 

 

Regards, Joachim

[md1400cs]

Joachim,

 

 Always such a visual pleasure seeing your updates. Your boarding ladders are so spectacular. You must have had photos of the 1:1? Your construction of these is so precise, so well detailed. I really enjoyed how you crafted these. This ship will be awesome. 

 

Regards,

 

Michael

[schiffebastler]

Gary and Michael thanks a lot for your nice comments. Hope, I can show you also in future some interesting pictures...

 

Regards, Joachim

[schiffebastler]

Hi,

 

once the rifle rack has always been empty, it has now become some parts.

First of all the parts of course will be some rifles, on the upper part of the rack there are placed some lamps (made of 2mm acrylic glass), at one side of the rack is put a saber and on the other side a sort of a trumpet.

(after looking to the pictures on the computer, I detected, that the rifles have to be aligned a bit better, difficult to see only with eyes, due to the small parts...)

 

 

 

 

 

 

And when I'm at it, I made some general pictures of the Amerigo, because now nearly every part is placed on the deck.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Regards, Joachim

 

[gjdale]

Very nice build Joachim. Love the extra detail you've applied.

[schiffebastler]

Thank you very much, Grant!

 

Regards, Joachim

[schiffebastler]

Hello,

actually, I startet to update the plans of the rigging. I would like to show the model with full sails. These sails I bought many years ago and together with them there was delivered a plan, how to rig and place the additional ropes, which are necessary for the sails. The main plan does not include these ropes on the plan.

Now I tried to do this and spent a lot of hours for updating the plan. But I did not succeed yet! 
One problem is, the additional plan for the sail-based ropes ist too poor and it does not fit to the main plan. Also, the photos from the original rigg sometimes tell another story and give a lot of questions!

Years ago, I bought another set of plans from Franco Gay. I got them from the italien marine. These plans seems that they could be much more accurate, the amout of ropes, the use and positioning of them. But the plans are written in italien language and I do not understand any words! And it makes it not easier, that Franco Gay wrote the descriptions in his plans by hand.

Now I thought, I could use the internet translators, to get the names of the ropes... I used different programs, but the result was something between nothing and trash! Then I thought, I could compare the plans and the pictures and figure out, which is which rope....
but I succeeded only for a few ropes...

Now the result for this disappointing week: spent lot of time for nothing, the result is nothing ....

For the moment I have thrown the whole rubbish in a corner, until I find a solution for the italien translation....

 

Maybe somebody knows, how to translate it and can help me?


I think, I will complete now the remaining four boats...

Regards, Joachim

[gjdale]

That's disappointing for you Joachim, but I'm sure there are some Italian speakers on this forum who might be able to help you out with the translations.

[schiffebastler]

I hope so. Even, if the translation would be in English, it would be no problem, some of the term I already know and for the others I have a good book for the translation to german.

 

Regards, Joachim

[Anja]

Hello Joachim,

 

Herzlichen Glückwunsch zum Geburtstag!

 

Happy birthday! Enjoy and have a wonderful day.

 

Regards,

Anja

[Kevin]

Happy birthday!

[edmay]

good day,brilliant workmanship,following your blog.have a happy happy birthday,Edwin

[fabius.b]

Hi, schiffebastler,

I'm happy to help you to translate, but I'm not so sure I can, quite for the right naval words.

I can try, if you want.

[fabius.b]

we can begin with the 4 principal masts of the Amerigo Vespucci, from bow to stern:

 

albero di bompresso = bowsprit

albero di trinchetto = fore-mast

albero di maestra = main-mast

albero di mezzana =mizzen-mast

 

 

everyone is composed by 3 sections:

 

 

bowsprit :            only with 4  sections      (asta di controfiocco -  asta maggiore - bompresso  - buttafuori di briglia)

 

Fore-mast lower—Fore topmast—Fore topgallant mast  -                       (trinchetto - parrocchetto - velaccino)

 

Main-mast lower—Main topmast—Main topgallant mast—                       (maestra  -  gabbia   -   velaccio)

 

Mizzenmast lower—Mizzen topmast—Mizzen topgallant mast -                 (mezzana - contromezzana - belvedere)

 

 

and  now the ship watchword, aka,  "motto della nave":  "NON CHI COMINCIA, MA QUEL CHE PERSEVERA" 

 

(Not who starts, but who perseveres)

 

a link of a very accurate italian site, about masts sail and rigging of Amerigo Vespucci:

 

http://www.mondovespucci.com/ITAL/PAGINE/velealbe.html

Edited May 4, 2013 by fabius.b

[schiffebastler]

First of all, Thank you all very much for the many birthday greetings, I was very happy about that!

And thanks a lot for your interest in my build, it is great to be a member of this fine group of excellent model builders.

 

And I can tell you, it was a wonderful birthday, beginning with two excellent drawings of my children (of course sailing ships, ... but from where do they know.... )

and in the evening, together with my wife, I was on a "Meat Loaf" concert in Stuttgart, his final tour... twenty years ago, a Meat Loaf Concert was the first concert I have been with my wife, now again...

it was really a great evening, three hours the best of Meat Loaf, sometimes touching, and he gave his best on stage!

 

 

Now I am looking forward to start into the next step of building the rigg of the Amerigo.

I am very delighted, that you, @fabius, support me, translating the italien terms, thank you!

First, I will put in my plan all I know and sort out the most difficult words. May I ask you then again for some translations?

 

 

@Gary, of course, you can get a copy of my plan. As far as I saw now, the principles of the rigg and ropes are the same since a long time. Also the Amerigo has the same types of ropes than your Soleil, especially due to the fact, that the Amerigo was build and rigged in the style of the earlier frigates. Will be also interesting for me, to see, how you will rigg your wonderful model.

 

 

Best regards, Joachim

[fabius.b]

Yes, of course. Is a pleasure try to help you.

[schiffebastler]

Thank you @fabius and the link to the italian navy school is great.

 

And @Gary maybe the following link to the rigging of a few vessels of the 20th century could be interesting for you. At least it ist an interesting site.

 

http://www.jans-sajt.se/contents/Navigation/Rigging/Rigging4Landlubbers.htm

 

 

Regards, Joachim

[fabius.b]

http://www.straulino.it/straulino/nelWeb.htm

 

 

Ship Vespucci exits out Taranto's channel sailing, under the command of legendary commander Captain Agostino Straulino, golden medal at Helsinki Olimpic Games Star Class

Edited May 4, 2013 by fabius.b

[schiffebastler]

Hi fabius,

sometimes I wished to understand more (at least something) from the italien language....

 

Now, may I ask you some translations... there are a few terms which are really often mentioned but I don't know them:

caricaboline, caricascotte, caricamezzi, scotte, alabasso

 

Thank you

 

Regards, Joachim

[fabius.b]

Hi Joachim,

 

When you see the word “carica” it means uplift, load up, arise, send up

The words you did not understand are composed by two words togheter: 

carica-bolina   carica-scotte   carica-mezzi               carica-basso (alabasso)

 

We are speaking by square sails (eccept alabasso, that is used for triangular sails). 

 

They are ropes used  to close the lower sail of each mast.

 

Carica-bolina,  red arrows in the picture

It is fixed and secured around the middle, of the vertical bolt rope of each sail, bilaterally

 

Carica-scotte, green arrows in the picture

It is fixed and secured at the extreme lower angle of each sail, bilaterally, to uplift and close every angle of the sail to the center of the flagpole

 

Carica-mezzo,  blue arrows in the picture

It is fixed in the middle of the bottom edge of the sail, to uplift and close the bottom of the sail to the flagpole

 

Scotte

All the ropes, used to tighten the sails towards aft, and keep well open the sail. Square sails  had 2 “scotte”, one for each angle.

 

Alabasso or caricabasso:

It is a rope into a pulley and serves to pull and tighten down the sliding attachment of the boom, so to tighten the mainsail to mizzenmast (auric sail)

 

Since one picture is better than 100 words, below you can see the crew of Vespucci, closing the mainsail to the flagpole.

 

And in the second picture, the red arrow indicates the alabasso (or caricabasso)

Edited May 5, 2013 by fabius.b

[schiffebastler]

Hi fabius,

 

thank you very much for the help!

I think, the main problem, translating the italien words is, that I miss the basics of how words are build, what is singular and plural....

Becouse of this, I cannot find the words in my dictionary.....

 

Your idea with the pictures is excellent, and therefore everything is clearly to understand.

 

Now, together with your other informations, I am able to identify many ropes!

 

Thanks, Joachim