GLakie Posted April 5, 2015 Share #61 Posted April 5, 2015 Just ran across your Launch Ken and you're off to a great start. Cheers mattsayers148 1 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsayers148 Posted April 5, 2015 Share #62 Posted April 5, 2015 Ken!!! You're alive, I mean, you're Launch is alive! CaptainSteve, Canute and GLakie 3 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted April 5, 2015 Share #63 Posted April 5, 2015 All this talk of hairdryers reminds of an unexpected benefit I had working on my launch; doing it in winter in a wood-heated house. The relative humidity is bone-dry in here when the stove's running 24/7, and I found that soaked planks dried really quickly. Not sure what would or will happen when I work on a similar model in our humid summer. mattsayers148 and GLakie 2 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted April 19, 2015 Author Share #64 Posted April 19, 2015 I was contemplating my garboards and sheer planks, in order to add the next planks. One sheet of the laser cut planks has a very pronounced cross grain, so it looks like the outside will get painted. I'd have to go very dark and the grain still would show. Then, looking at the bow, I realized the hood ends did not remain in the rabbets. Arggh! Up with that, I will not put! Out came the IPA (no, Cap'n, not any kind of ale) and 5 minutes later, I popped the sheer planks off. (Ya know, I could have used a Smithwicks about then. Down to me last Guinness now ) Cleaned off the old glue and I will very carefully, with more lighting and my good old optivisor, re-glue the sheers. I've been putzing around on this hull long enough. Sorry for the building buffoonery, mates! CaptainSteve, GLakie, Salty Sea Dog and 2 others 5 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted April 21, 2015 Share #65 Posted April 21, 2015 (edited) When dealing with hood ends, I found it very helpful to use a form with the same curve as the rabbet, to ensure the hood ends stayed in place. Photos and descriptions are here. It's easy to do, you just cut a piece of the scrap wood from which the stem of the keel came, and clamp it parallel to the rabbet. This gives a strong overhang of wood that the hood end can butt up against, making it impossible for it to pop out while drying. I first tried using a clamp itself against the rabbet, for the hood end to push against, but found that a clamp strong enough to hold the pressure also dented the keel. Using the strips of wood works better, as the flat surfaces of wood grain on wood grain have way more friction than a clamp, and a few clamps can be used along the length of the piece, holding it very securely and not risking any damage to the keel. Worked like a charm for the rest of my planking once I figured it out. Edited April 22, 2015 by Cathead CaptainSteve, mattsayers148, Dimitris71 and 1 other 4 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted April 21, 2015 Author Share #66 Posted April 21, 2015 Cathead, excellent tip. I've got those pieces ready for the rest of the planking. GLakie, CaptainSteve and mattsayers148 3 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted April 22, 2015 Share #67 Posted April 22, 2015 Looks like I had the link wrong in the first post. It's fixed now. Also, here's the photo from my log showing what this looks like. Canute, zoly99sask, thomaslambo and 11 others 14 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap'n Rat Fink Posted April 22, 2015 Share #68 Posted April 22, 2015 Great Progress Cathead! Mario GLakie 1 Quote Thank You all... Mario "Each of us is a mixture of some good and some not so good qualities. In considering one's fellow man it's important to remember the good things ... We should refrain from making judgments just because a fella happens to be a dirty, rotten SOB(biscuit) " My Builds.... BETTEAU WAR OF 1812 BOUNTY LAUNCH(bashed) CHESAPEAKE BAY FLATTIE THE SEA of GALILEE BOAT VICTORIAN STEAM LAUNCH(bashed) HOWARD CHAPELLE's CRABBING SKIFF LADY KATHRINE 1812 SCHOONER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share #69 Posted May 1, 2015 Finally have both garboards and strakes glued up. Now fitting the #2 strakes by boiling the hood ends. I beefed up the stem form with the kit scraps for the stem bracing. Per Cathead in #65 and 67 above, it helps to hold the hood ends in place. I penciled in the lines for strake alignment on the inside of the curves; it matches up with the pencil lines I already had in place in the stem's rabbet. CaptainSteve, GLakie, mattsayers148 and 2 others 5 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsayers148 Posted May 2, 2015 Share #70 Posted May 2, 2015 Hey I just thought of something Ken. It seemed like more than a few of us had our boats spread wider after planking and removal from the jig. So when you get to the point of popping it off, you might consider glueing in some stabilizers to prevent that from happening. And, I'm hanging by a thread here waiting for photos. CaptainSteve, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share #71 Posted May 3, 2015 thanks for the comments and likes, fellows. Squirrel Whisperer, your wish is my command... This is my take on Cathead's stem blocking. I cut the part outlines from the parts sheet, marked them to show where the planks should fall and clamped them onto the stem. These are for the sheer strake and next few planks. I have a second set for the lower planks. Sitting with the Admiral eating breakfast this morning, she asked how the Launch was going. I said I had to bend the ends in boiling water and affix them. She asked why I wasn't using the blow-dryer to bend the ends. Hmm, the Darlin' is on to something here. So port side plank #2 is hot air bent. One kind of overall shot. I'm tapering the edges by sanding the inside edges to tighten up the outside edges of the planks. Another Maestro Chuck technique. Matt, I've been thinking about that spread issue. Methinks the cherry frames don't sit as tight to the forms as they should, hence the spread. I may tack glue the center seat or affix a light weight spreader clamp across the thwarts. Think light but strong. CaptainSteve, mtaylor, Dimitris71 and 14 others 17 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLakie Posted May 3, 2015 Share #72 Posted May 3, 2015 She's coming along nicely Ken. And yes---Blow dryer is a good idea. That's why she's the Admiral and gets the big bucks. CaptainSteve, maddog33, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote GEORGE Don't be bound by the limits of what you already know, be unlimited by what you are willing to learn. Member of the Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted May 3, 2015 Share #73 Posted May 3, 2015 Ken, I think you're right about the cherry frames not quite sitting tight with the forms. A number of mine had just a bit of space after drying, they never quite fit perfectly. You almost have to bend them TOO far to get them to rebound to just the right shape. Be interesting for someone to try sanding the molds down a bit too far, and see if the frames bent onto them ended up just right. I also suspect this is why some of us needed stealers. If the molds are absolutely tight, then the planks as pre-cut may fit just barely right. If there's any spreading at all, then naturally the hull becomes a lot wider and you end up needing stealers. Just a theory, but it makes geometric sense to me. Otherwise looks just right so far! Canute, EricWilliamMarshall, CaptainSteve and 2 others 5 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattsayers148 Posted May 4, 2015 Share #74 Posted May 4, 2015 Looking awesome Ken. I too love the hair dryer. Canute and GLakie 2 Quote Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt HMS Bounty Launch by Matt 18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt 18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainSteve Posted October 13, 2015 Share #75 Posted October 13, 2015 Ken, I be jus' a-wonderin' if ye be makin' further progress on getting yer Launch launched ?? mattsayers148, GLakie and Canute 3 Quote CaptainSteve Current Build: HM Granado Bomb Vessel (Caldercraft) My BathTub: Queen Anne Barge (Syren Ship Models) Log: Queen Anne Barge (an build log) Bounty Launch (Model Shipways) Log: Bounty Launch by CaptainSteve Apostol Felipe (OcCre) HMS Victory (Constructo) Check It Out: The Kit-Basher's Guide to The Galaxy Website: The Life & Boats of CaptainSteve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaslambo Posted October 13, 2015 Share #76 Posted October 13, 2015 Hi Ken, Wow, I see you're getting some sage advise from excellent builders I'm experiencing the same problem with my AL Bounty build. After checking the planks carefully I find many, if not most, are cut across the grain...making then very difficult to work with. I made the painful ($$) choice to replace them....along with the dowels trying to pose as masts My compliments on your fine progress Canute, GLakie, mattsayers148 and 1 other 4 Quote Boyd Current Build - HMS Bounty - Artesania Latina - Scale1:48 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted October 13, 2015 Author Share #77 Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) Cap'n, it's lurking in the shop. I've been lured by a card ship from the American Civil War. Not to worry, I'll get back to it. Boyd, thanks for the compliments. I had a wee block and wandered into a card model. I'm more comfortable with wood, just need to do some of the basics better. I'm fortunate for the assistance of all you folks and hope I don't prove your judgement isn't misplaced. Edited October 13, 2015 by Canute CaptainSteve, mattsayers148, GLakie and 3 others 6 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Landlubber Mike Posted November 30, 2015 Share #78 Posted November 30, 2015 Hey Ken, just came across your build log. Your planking is amazing - even more so that it is your first wooden build. Very nice job! mattsayers148, GLakie and CaptainSteve 3 Quote Mike Current Wooden builds: Amati/Victory Pegasus MS Charles W. Morgan Euromodel La Renommèe Plastic builds: Hs129B-2 1/48 SB2U-1 Vindicator 1/48 Five Star Yaeyama 1/700 Pit Road Asashio and Akashi 1/700 diorama Walrus 1/48 and Albatross 1/700 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/32 IJN Notoro 1/700 Akitsu Maru 1/700 Completed builds : Caldercraft Brig Badger Amati Hannah - Ship in Bottle Pit Road Hatsuzakura 1/700 Hasegawa Shimakaze 1:350 F4B-4 and P-6E 1/72 Accurate Miniatures F3F-1/F3F-2 1/48 Tamiya F4F-4 Wildcat built as FM-1 1/48 Special Hobby Buffalo 1/48 Eduard Sikorsky JRS-1 1/72 Citroen 2CV 1/24 - Airfix and Tamiya Entex Morgan 3-wheeler 1/16 Terminated build: HMS Lyme (based on Corel Unicorn) On the shelf: Euromodel Friedrich Wilhelm zu Pferde; Caldercraft Victory; too many plastic ship, plane and car kits Future potential scratch builds: HMS Lyme (from NMM plans); Le Gros Ventre (from Ancre monographs), Dutch ship from Ab Hoving book, HMS Sussex from McCardle book, Philadelphia gunboat (Smithsonian plans) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimitris71 Posted November 30, 2015 Share #79 Posted November 30, 2015 Hello Ken, just saw your build log and i think that you did a great job. !! I will follow with interest!! :) Kind Regards Dimitris GLakie, CaptainSteve and mattsayers148 3 Quote Current Build: Amerigo Vespucci -Mantua- 1:100 scale Completed Build logs: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale Gallery: Bluenose II AL 1:75 scale Future Build: Royal Caroline -Panart- 1:47 scale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted November 30, 2015 Author Share #80 Posted November 30, 2015 Thank you Mike and Dimitris. And the likes from the posse, Matt, George and Cap'n Steve. I hope to jump back into this soon. Cutting paper and card is beginning to pale in comparison to the feel of working in wood. I may end up moving back and forth. mattsayers148, CaptainSteve, GLakie and 3 others 6 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverboat Posted December 1, 2015 Share #81 Posted December 1, 2015 Nice build Ken.... really nice work on the planking!! Frank Dimitris71, Canute, mattsayers148 and 3 others 6 Quote completed build: Delta River Co. Riverboat HMAT SUPPLY USRC "ALERT" in progress: Red Dragon (Chinese junk) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmcsys Posted December 22, 2015 Share #82 Posted December 22, 2015 I've just found your build. Very impressive. And you make no apology for taking your time. Really impressive. I see your are getting a ton of advice from folks. Most impressive of all. The commonuity is very generous and supportive and you have tapped into that BIG TIME. Way to go. While certainly good for you, its great for me too. The conversation you are having with them really shows me the thought processes behind the approaches and the choices that get made. Your log is great for this. The pics are great too. They show the work of one who really appreciates craftsmanship. While increasingly rare these days, craftmanship appears to be a hallmark of the model ship builders. You are proving yourself more than up to standard. I will enjoy following your progress. BTW, thank you for the likes. They are voices of encouragement. And as a beginner, I need all I can get. Joe Dimitris71, GLakie, Canute and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted December 22, 2015 Author Share #83 Posted December 22, 2015 Jim, this boat building hobby really is a group effort. I'm better in some areas and need help in others. And this community is great. Thanks for you comments. thomaslambo, PAnderson, mtaylor and 5 others 8 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAnderson Posted December 25, 2015 Share #84 Posted December 25, 2015 Nice work so far Ken. I just started this boat. I hope you don't mind if I follow your build. I am just getting ready to bend on the frames. Merry Christmas, Paul mtaylor, mattsayers148, CaptainSteve and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted December 25, 2015 Author Share #85 Posted December 25, 2015 Not at all, Paul. I grew up not far from Cresskil; over in Lodi. I'm getting back into the wood side again. The card boat is on hold until I can make smoother circular cuts in the cardstock. I can't smooth it as much as I'd like. You should also look at the builds by Matt (Squirrel Whisperer), Captain Steve and Mario. Good work on those. GLakie, mtaylor, Dimitris71 and 2 others 5 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mobbsie Posted December 30, 2015 Share #86 Posted December 30, 2015 Hi Ken, These are all important lessons for me and my Armed Pinnace. Regarding the bending of planks, I also use some old curling tongs the wife discarded, seems to work a treat. Keep it up mate, I'm watching. Be Good mobbsie Canute, GLakie, mattsayers148 and 4 others 7 Quote mobbsie All mistakes are deliberate ( me ) Current Build:- HMS Schooner Pickle Completed Builds :- Panart 1/16 Armed Launch / Pinnace ( Completed ), Granado Cross Section 1/48 Harwich Bawley, Restoration, Thames Barge Edme, Repair / Restoration, Will Everard 1/67 Billings HMS Agamemnon 1781 - 1/64 Caldercraft Kit, HM Brig Badger, HM Bomb Vessel Granado, Thames Steam Launch Louise, Thames Barge Edme, Viking Dragon Boat Next Build :- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted December 30, 2015 Author Share #87 Posted December 30, 2015 Thanks for all the comments and likes, folks. I expected to dive back in but my sinuses said "No,Sir" since Christmas. I am bummed. I'm planning to do some bends with the hair dryer, ala the Maestro's technique. I may see if the Admiral has an unused curling iron, too. GLakie, Jack12477, Dimitris71 and 3 others 6 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canute Posted February 29, 2016 Author Share #88 Posted February 29, 2016 Sort of a reawakening for me over the weekend. I finally added another plank. :) One small step for a ship building padawan.... Been a bit of a mental block, so I sat down with the Admiral, a former Reg Nurse and worked it all out. I had to get past a few ideas about being "available" for "small" little jobs (GIs may recall what an sljo is) around the house. No more wasting time on the computer, that kind of stuff. I'm back. Lawrence, thank you for your kind support. I hope to complete the planking without further ado and try my hand at rigging and adding some accouterments to the basics included in this kit. I haven't rigged a ship since high school, back in the late Renaissance. (Around the Beatles invading the USA). maddog33, EricWilliamMarshall, Cathead and 10 others 13 Quote Ken Started: MS Bounty Longboat, On Hold: Heinkel USS Choctaw paper Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1 Scratchbuild: Echo Cross Section Member Nautical Research Guild Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathead Posted March 1, 2016 Share #89 Posted March 1, 2016 Looking forward to seeing what you come up with. CaptainSteve, GLakie, mattsayers148 and 2 others 5 Quote Eric Current builds: scratchbuilt Missouri River steamboat Peerless (1893); 1:1 scale timber-framed outdoor kitchen Nautical builds (kits): USS Cairo; NRG capstan project; NRG half-hull; Viking longship; US revenue cutter; 18th century longboat; Bounty launch Missouri River craft (scratchbuilt): 1853 Missouri River steamboat Arabia; 1865 steamboat Bertrand; Lewis & Clark barge; keelboat; 1876 steamboat Far West Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tim I. Posted March 1, 2016 Share #90 Posted March 1, 2016 Canute, I am not sure how I missed this log of yours. I enjoyed catching up on it, and am pulling up a seat for the rest of your build. Great start so far! - Tim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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