Louie da fly
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The Mary Rose... a bit of obscure history.
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Mycenaean War Galley by Woodrat - 1:48 - Shell first Plank on Frame
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Mycenaean War Galley by Woodrat - 1:48 - Shell first Plank on Frame
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11th century viking crew and freight in 1:25
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11th century viking crew and freight in 1:25
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It just hit me last night - I've been in the throes of writing the Great Viking Novel for as long as I can remember (may never get published, but hey, it's fun), and my hero goes on a trading trip in a knarr in 1065 to the realm of Jarl Thorfinn the Mighty, (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorfinn_the_Mighty) whose base was the Brough of Birsay in the Orkney islands north of Scotland. Here's a wonderful map https://maps.walkingclub.org.uk/os/explorer/463-orkney-west-mainland At the very top left of the "mainland" you'll see "Brough Head". Zoom right in and there's the Brough of Birsay, a small island cut off whenever the tide is full (sea-level changes dramatically with the tides), and that's where Thorfinn had his settlement. Brough is basically the same word as the Old English burh - a fortified settlement - which appears as "-burgh" or "-borough" at the end of many place-names in Britain. The island slopes upward from almost sea-level at the eastern end where the settlement was, to high cliffs on the west. As far as I can see traders coming here could have pulled their ships up on the sandy beach at high tide and perhaps unloaded when the tide was out. Here's a video with really good views of the island - I hope that is of some help to you. Maybe you could consider this as a setting for your Roar Edge. Steven -
Beautiful work, as usual, Patrick. Steven
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Mary Rose by Baker - scale 1/50 - "Your Noblest Shippe"
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Paddlewheeler Golden City by Louie da fly - Scale 1:50 and 1:25 - solid hull
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The San Marco mosaic ship c. 1150 by Louie da fly - 1:75
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Here's a figure 70mm high (equivalent to 1.75 metres or 5 ft 9" at 1:25 scale) - https://www.planetfigure.com/threads/fer-miniatures-january-new-release-changes-to-come-viking-warrior-gamla-uppsala-1087.76208/#google_vignette Get rid of the axe and the cross and he might do. And you might be able to do something with the guy drinking from a horn here: https://free3d.com/3d-model/viking-drunk-3d-printable-5188.html He does have a helmet on, and his multi-layer skirt and his "cloak" are a bit strange, but he's not too bad. (By the way, try drinking out of horn with the pointy end above your mouth like that and you'll get a face full of beer - don't ask me how I know.) Steven
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It is indeed difficult to get Viking period figures who are ordinary people, not warriors or the rich. A site that gives a more realistic idea of what "normal Vikings" looked like is at https://sagy.vikingove.cz/en/the-interview-for-hella-the-viking-blog/ A well-off merchant might have looked like this - https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/137219119871448037/ While a really high status Viking (probably a member of the nobility) might have looked like this https://www.pinterest.com.au/pin/948148527770532075/ (that cloak is copied from a real archaeological find, including that wonderful decorative border - click on the Pinterest link and it takes you to an article on the original find). Sorry I can't help with figures ( I have to carve mine), but cargo would yes, be barrels, perhaps oiled leather bags (for waterproofing) chests (There's the Mastermyr chest, which contained carpenters' tools https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mästermyr_chest and https://www.angelfire.com/wy/svenskildbiter/Viking/vikchest.html, and is fairly typical, as well as the Oseberg chests https://loveevamk.life/product_tag/32008505_.html - but use those with caution, as they were in a royal grave). For my own nef - though it's from a few centuries after, ships hadn't changed all that much - I added a cargo of barrels - see post #193 and onward at Hope that helps. Nice to see someone doing a merchant ship instead of all the drakkars! Steven
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Meteor by Jim Lad - Scale 1:96 - Immigrant Ship Of 1851
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Ian, that block looks like an ordinary block with a toggle each side. Those toggles have been found in archaeology as far back as the 11th century, though I don't know if they've been found from the Classical Roman period. They are very useful for quick attachment and release of different parts of rigging on Mediterranean lateeners - for an example of the toggle in use see my post #1217 at Tony, thanks for your nice comment. Much appreciated. More progress on the San Marco ship. Grab rings for the hatch covers: Hatch covers in place and with grab rings (now blackened) in place. I had to wait until the masts were glued in before I could finalise the hatch covers, otherwise I wouldn't have been able to see the mast steps to guide the masts into position. Shrouds: Foremast starboard shrouds in place: All foremast shrouds in place. The port shrouds are loose because the lateen sail was within the shrouds - if the leeward shrouds were kept tight they would interfere with the sail as it bellied out with the wind. Getting ready for tomorrow's Modelling Exhibition! while I'm sitting there keeping people (and their precious little darlings) from touching my models with their sticky fingers I'll probably be working on positioning the halyards and their tackle, and adding the blocks for the tacks to the yards. Steven
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And the little gates fixed - a bit rough and ready, but at least well enough for a prototype. When it comes to the "good one" at 1:25 I'll be more careful and finish them better. Ready for tomorrow's exhibition. Steven
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The Hayling Hoy by jpalmer1970 - 1:48 scale - First POF build
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Beautiful work, Patrick! You're making good progress. Steven
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Thanks for all the likes. Druxey, I don't know how many I'll make, but the purpose right from the start was to work out how to make multiples without too much waste effort. Not the same as my usual builds, where the research and the figuring out are as much fun as the making. It'll be a bit of a sideline which doesn't make too many demands on my problem-solving abilities, just more of a relaxing thing when I have a bit of spare time. I've already got about half a dozen hulls cut out ready to go further. Not really in any hurry. Steven
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Almost finished, just in time for an exhibition by the modelling club I'm in. It's a little rough and ready because it's a prototype, but that's OK. When I come to do the finalised one I'll put the lessons I've leaned doing this one into practice. In the meantime, a bit more paintwork, (adding the vessel's registration number and name) and I really need to re-do those little red gates amidships - a bit *too* rough and ready! And here's the real thing. Steven
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I agree with Patrick and Stevinne. This was a very common size for forecastles at this time - see https://www.pinterest.com.au/lowe1847/great-carracksnaos/ - beginning as a quite low structure the forecastle got bigger and bigger and more unwieldy, presumably to give advantage in boarding/deterring boarding. It probably made the ships very crank, and this plus the adoption of big guns which made boarding a less vital part of normal tactics, probably led to the adoption of the lower sleeker galleon. Of course I could be biased. Here's the forecastle of my own Great Harry, Mary Rose's big sister. Steven
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That's interesting - the goedendag is mentioned as being one of the most common weapons of the victorious Flemish army at the Battle of Courtrai (also known as the battle of the Golden Spurs because of the huge number of golden spurs looted from dead French knights), but a wooden chest commemorating the battle shows them like this: And remnants have been found of the real thing: https://www.military-history.org/feature/medieval/the-goedendag-medieval-weaponry.htm Of course Flemish re-enactors have adopted this nasty thing (though only for display purposes - much too nasty to really fight with) Steven
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