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  1. Marcus.K.
    Hallo Evan, I finally found the pages. Thanks. And there is the sketch which inspired you. Its on page 170. Edit: see last line (Compared with the British plans of USS President I think the hornlike thing is not visible.) in brackets is wrong ! see last line Edit-ende. Chappell states he has his point of view because of so many correspondence indicating the early use of the round headed rudder and that its in use since about 1801. He shows this horn in nearly all drawings. That its not visible in NMM plans is no prove that it wasn't there. Maybe this tiny detail was not of importance ...? What I want to point out for you : look at the number of the metal fixations of the rudder in President's NMM plan. Seems to be more... Strange: it seems I can not paste copied text or links... only my problem? Edit: just looked into my Canney for the british lines of President and have to admit : I was wrong. The horn is visible there too - very clearly.
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    Hy Matt, well, I do not believe that a "poor biomedical engineer" with two doctor degrees and having a 40 years experience in building air plane models is not able to brag just as the rest of us may do C´mon - its so easy ! Your Project sounds VERRRYY interesting to me. I am very much interested in this time period - and I am looking for any possible model kit which is available for future builds ... If you start a building log I would instantly volonteer to become observer - and where I can I will help of course - although most of my readings was about Constitution.
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    I do not believe you Well, the thing is described in Evan´s post #107 on page 6 of this building log. Evan did a complete new rudder blade with its rudder post - since he compared the USS Presidents drawings with what he found on the Revell kit. Marquardt - the author of the Anatomy of the Ship book "Constitution" mentioned the use of Snoddgrass-rudders - with a round rudder head - for later. Chapelle somewhere seems to have hinted out, that the Snoddgrass-rudders have been used earlier in the US Navy. The difference? The former shape of the rudder post - which connects the rudder with the rudder head (and the pillar (right word?)) was squared or at least rectangular in cross section view. Maybe because its easier to create, maybe because it wasn´t even in the centerline of the hinges .. But the effect in any case: the "hole" for that post in the stern had to be wider than it had to be for an aligned and round rudder post. Mr. Gabriel Snoddgrass seems to have "invented" the round rudderpost / rudder head - and therefore optimized the needed size of the hole which is needed to open for that piece of wood. By the way: I refound the article - and was wrong. It describes that a Mr. Hookey claimed to have invented the round rudder head - but the author states, that this Invention was done by G. Snoddgrass and was used in merchantmen since years. For some reason I do not understand I can not copy a link from this Google-book-article to here .. If you Google for "round rudder head Snoddgrass" you will find a link to a "mechanics Magazin, volume 8" .. and there it is. Look in Evans post #107 - you will see the difference in pictures. Its another proof of Evans fine nose to detect and point on interesting details which are commonly not looked at.
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    http://www.bruzelius.info/Nautica/Shipbuilding/NC-5(1801)_p129.html Good old Gabriel Snoddergrass was very confident about his improvments on East Indiamen. A very interesting person I think. Gabriel did not only invent the rounded rudder head but also used much more iron in the ships skelelton and also modified dimensions for his ships. He seemed to be very proud about his success - but its interesting that it seemed to him he needs to push admiraltity make use of his findings. Also interesting: he seem to have "invented" the process of not closing the holes of the outer and inner planks done for the treenails - until the very latest moment ... to give the ships hull another more time to "breath" ... But in an other article I saw this afternoon (have to refind it) someone else did claim to be the inventor of rounded rudderheads .. So copyright was also in former times a problem. ... or as so often: the time was right for the next step - and maybe different people noticed that in about the same time ..?
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    I did not notice this very interesting information ! Thanks a lot for showing here - and thanks also to all who help publishing this interesting notes ! Why did nobody until now digged out Humphreys YouTube-video-blog during design and building the big frigates .. but this is probably the closest we can get.
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    Hy Evans I very much enjoy to read back and forth in your wounderful report here ... Where did you get all that information from concerning the Snodgrass Rudder? I found of course Marquardts remark, but Chapelles is from where? Anyway, while showing the 1803 Cornè (your avatar) to my son, to explain him some of my ideas I accidently picked a zoom onto the rudder and there it was : the hornlike USS Presidents detail ! Thanks for finding such beautiful tiny details, Evans - its such a fun !
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    Wow that´s amazing! But will you keep both Labels. That way she will lay all her life "clambed" in between those white "icebergs" to lar- and starboard?? Anyway - at least these are not labels of that satanic perdition called "RUM" so many sailors ruined their bodies and souls with ....
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    wow - I am fascinated following this interesting "little" project. A really phantastic bottle-ship, very well presented. Looking forward to see it in place!
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    Hello Evans, have not been here for a very long time! Beautiful progress!!! .. and wonderful paintings in the Museum you shared with us. Thanks for that! Would you tell us which kind (seize) of eyebolts you used? .. and the deadeyes - from which company are those? They look really phantastic ! Of course I very much like your approach with the rigging. Is the block visible on the Hull Model also used by Erkisson?
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    Hello Evans, I have one question: what is the book below Chapelles History of American sailing navy?
  11. Marcus.K.
    Permission granted to come aboard, Sir? Looking forward to see more ...
  12. Marcus.K.
    Another build, I want to follow. Good luck and have fun!
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    Oh wow .. I missed the start of this build ! Beautiful, a masterpiece ! I will follow your build and I am looking forward seeing your next steps.
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    A BEAUTY !!!
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    Oh wow, I have to follow this build. The Heller kit of Glorieux found luckily ist way via a not very motivated bit in the big bay.. So I first planned to use it as a test and learn build until I noticed the Beauty of those 74s by a El Supremo years ago. So ist still waiting for the time of real start to build models.. not just visiting others reports. Love your one !! Looking Forward to see more.
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    Hello Evans, thanks for the insight! The ship and the museum are a great attraction - to children and adults ! I am so sad to be on the wrong side of the Atlantic not having the possiblity to just pop by .. But one day I will travel to Boston again - this time with my family - and this time during indian summer (which I missed, when I did my internship). I very much would like to show my sons (especially) the hard work of holystoning the decks - this would clean up with some romantic ideas about the life on board ;-) And thanks for the pictures of the paintings .. they missed in my little collection!
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    Wow - the capstan looks marvelous !!! Do you have pictures about how you did this?? Very impressive ! Absolutly cool !
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    What could be added to this? ...Nothing! Fully agree! Well explained. I too very much admire your Research, the way you think and look at information, sources, second sources, etc. .. And I believe that its the responsibilty of a thinking human being to be careful with informations presented by others. Its always of great value, if you try to rethink it. There could be something missed by your predecessor ... Not because you do not trust others. Not because you think you can do better. But just because experience shows - no one is perfect, no one has the single truth. Its a journey to come closer to what we believe to be the truth. But is´nt it fun to go on this journey? I like this a lot! In my future life I would like to become historian. .. But thinking it, I also think: if you have to do it to make your living, fun can dissapear very quick :-) Evan - very interesting thoughts. Tim, very interesting feedback!
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    Cooooool .. thanks a lot Tim. Very interesting paper. It fits to my understanding - and I forgott completly about the Roux-paintings showing the ships during entering a port or being at sea without "action". .. and here half port lids visible .. while in action they seem to be dissapeared. Meaning for this model: not showing them does not mean "there are no" .. but would still be a valid presentation! I did never think of canvas for the captains ports .. I assumed this would be glass - but seeing some of the paintings / sketches it seems obvious that the author is right. Again something new for me! Great - thanks a lot for this input!!!
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    What an interesting debate!! Thanks gentlemen, for all this information, opinion and arguments. The latest with Gardners remarks is new to me and very interesting. It seems to me that this question was another one each commander could decide to his own thinking, experience and fashion. Difficult to judge without any reliable source. For my point of view: seeing so many paintings of so many painters of that times (and the Hull Model - which DOES show one port lid at the first gun port at the bow!!! So the man doing the model did obviously NOT forget them! ) .. with each of them showing NO lids I think it must be allowed to show the ship without them. At least if you show the ship at battle station - because each of those paintings do show this status - even the 1803 Corné Side view - in which the first gun is shot for a salute. (Or was shoting a salute done without beating the quarters?). There is a well known interesting picture of USS President in heavy seas in Mediterian sea .. One day I will build a Revel Constituiton in exaclty this conficuration - with heavy seas and the masts and spars secured like here .. Great action! http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Usspresidentatanchor.jpg I saw different versions. To me it seems that there are port lids with openings for the guns barrels. I think the painting shows the ship in about 1805?? But I am not sure about it. For me it will seem as if in heavy weather port lids have been in use .. but the is just guesstimeation. At the end you could argue and say: this is the ships configuration following Corné´s painting xyz ... It WILL be a beautiy anyhow! I am looking forward seeing progress on your beautiful build - and I am always curious with which sources you again add some interesting knowledge about the ships layout ! Thanks to all here!!
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    Popeye, impressive! Great looking decks. Congratulations for that. Since I personally very much "fear" to try to create a wooden appearance on a plastic part with paints this "hybrid-technology" wood/plastic may be a way out for me. Although its a lot of work the result seen here an in other builds seems to justify .. no, DO justify the additional efforts. Phantastic work. I am looking forward to see you next steps.
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    Hey Popeye, wow - I very much like your decks. And as mentioned before : I believe they look quite realistic to my eye. I would not care about a different between the two decks too much. Could´nt it be that the poop deck was renewed the last time in dock, while the spar deck still has the old planks? Concerning self-combustion of paint. My boss once fond a burned area at his wood terrace. The paint can which he placed below the planks of his terrace floor was catching fire during the morning sun, while he was doing some shopping. He placed it there several days before and nothing happend. But this was the first day with morning sun shining on his terrace and on the paint-can. It burned, blackened the wood - but it was not hot enough to set the house on fire - by a great deal of luck !! - and when the paint was burned away the can did just stop burning. When he got back and noticed the mess in the afternoon everything was cool and cold again. He said he placed the can outside because of his fear concerning the smell and the drugs in the paint. He did not expect the danger - but it was obvious !! He really was lucky not to come back and finding a blaze instead of his home. So ladies and gentlemen world wide : be careful with easily inflammable fluids and materials. The danger might come in unexpected moments !!! Back to you ship : its great and I follow you any time you post.
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    Hy Evans, very much like your progress - and especially this beautiful boat. But what impresses me this time even more : the photos ! Very nice effect with the sunlight and the wood - by which the small size of the boat is shown ! Impressive !! I love to study your work - so motivating, so inspiring !
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    Hy Evans, of course he did his interpretation. I said "inspired" by your building log. ;-) He does not rebuild your solution - but as many others, he very much likes your apporach and how you combine theoretical research with active modeling. Of couse some of your solutions do cause criticism - not everything you do is liked by anyone. But that is - as usual - very much depending on the eye of the observers ... As Tyrone Martin once was writing (more or less): my findings are public property, but I will not defend your interpretation - that is up to the modelist or artist creating a model or painting. And of course your very interesting interpretation does have influence "into Germany".. I know several discussions about your solutions and your building log is "under strictly observation" in more than one german forum and many others in the world I would guess. I do not really get what a "roller" is. What is the difference to a block? But I see your point with the problems of the joint. In Mrs. Takakjians beautiful AotS book "Essex" she shows on page 93 a "viol block" to change the direction of the messanger... and since I had the impression that her work was carefully done and she gained a lot of knowledge I did not question her layout of this detail. But you are right - the joint passing the sheave could cause problems. ... hm.. Very good progress on the hull. I am so curious to see it painted!
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    Beautiful detail, Evans ! Here a link to a German modelist who was inspired by your building report (if I remember well) .. We discussed there how the messanger would be led to pass the pumps. http://www.wettringer-modellbauforum.de/forum/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=46887&pageNo=8 He added two additional strong pillars to propect the pumps from the forces of the messanger under load. I remember that in the beautiful book "Anatomy of the Ship USS Essex" there is a sketch in which the messanger is lead through a block to pass something on deck. ... I believe this would be a so natural thing for a sailer - to make use of a block - that it would not even be written somewhere ..

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