kirill4

Good day,

Dear friends, thanks for your attention to my building and warm comments!

Meanwhile, there is some progress...I made during september-december 2016...

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Hi Ray,

I have some of Budrio books in digital... but I can't figure out how to send private messg to you with links ...

Rgrds

Kirill

Good day,

B.E.

You did ... just magnificent model, !!!especialy if take in consideration such small scale! + all those changes You did

to be close to Budrio book...

I m still under impression of your craftsmanship!

Great!

unfortunately I didn' t found this link with your model earlier,and missed a lot of valuable information

which could be used during building of my model... and this nice idea ,to use modelspan tisue for sails making...

looks much better than any kind of best thin fabric, which I used for sails...sad too late knew abt this material...

saved your buildings report here for future reference...and tried to register on that forum , those link You gave...

All the Best!

Kirill

Good day,

Popeye the sailor and B.E.

Thanks a lot for your comments and attention for this project !

I'm very pleased and appreciated you like it ))

Wish you all the best and good results in your current buildinds!

Kirill

Frank,

My congratulations!!! Looks Great! model itself and common vew ,where she dropped anchor... good job done!!!

all the Best!

Kirill

those are the last for today... with wrong attachement... will be continued in September...I hope...

I wish All the Best of all of you and good progress with yours current projects!!!

there is I did some mistake,with the places ,where attached halliard running ends...first choice was to securevthem on the aft reilings...suppose it is not correct...

next vacation I planned to make some rearrangements,and shift them closer to the Fmast base...

some more pictures...relevant illustration abt ...how to fitt F mast halliards...

I have not too much pictrs of spanish galleon,where we could clearly see details...so it will be kind of mix of dutch,english,swedish and danish metods of halliards arrangements...+info from Anderson book

mostly Dutch ))

Thank You very much Robin for your warm comment... I try... but still too much black spots remains,how it must be ,looks like...the hull construction due to it is plastic modell...ommited complitelly...but actually ...seems to me ...it is one big mistake...so just I try to do...what can I do ...and what I could understand...from this rigging questions...lets say...in direction of spanish galleon... ))

next portion of pictures -preparation of assosiated blocks of parrels and parrels itself

they are in very simplified version...... just imitation of real thing

Good day,

Dear friends,

I did some some progress ,since last posts... unfortunately not so muchbas I planned to do during this my vacation...but at least Im very close now to start main mast running rigging !!! ))

Im very glad that I finally passed that most monotonious phase of rattling main mast shrouds...to fitt yards with sails and add running rigging ,will be much easy...

also I completed jobs with F mast halliards...which remains uncompleted since last activities on my shipyard

with this halliard installation, actually with those crowfeet...was a problem,how to imitate theiir attachment to the stays and how to

show equal tension of each bridlеs- this I managed by apply liquid CA on each bridle while they were under extra load...when clue dried, all treads remains strait...

that effect wich I need...same time,in the middle of the process,when all bridles were movable,I adjusted stays in slightly curved position (up) as they looks at the real ship...almost same I saw on the picture of Kalmar Nykel replica...

there are some recent fotoes

Good day,

Dear Steve,WackoWolf

Thanks for Your warm comments,

I'm very sorry since long time I didn't refresh my building report,....for some reasons...but I didn't give it up, still have some progress...but everything goes very slowly...

Steve,

You asked abt imitation of nails head... afraid my reply is too late,...but anyway... I did it mixing acrylic Matt vanish with very fine "finish crack filler",which remains from that time when I did my flat repairing...actually such staff remained a lot,may be 500 gym. but for our purpose we need a few grams. only ))... so this "finish fine chalk Crack filler" need to mix with acrylic Matt vanish, to reach some kind of cream consistency, and than you can use it for imitation nails/bolts head...I used some kind of dosage plastic tube to apply this staff on the surface...when you did micro drop ,wait couple of seconds,and than gently press it ,to make it flat...when it became dry,paint it to the color You need and finally You will have such nails head imitation...need to have a little bit practice ,but after couple of tries You will have good results...I'm very sorry for my English, but hope You did catch idea..

Some pctrs of the current stage of my building you can see here

http://karopka.ru/forum/forum190/topic10341/?PAGEN_1=84

And here

http://www.segelschiffsmodellbau.com/t2801f761-Spanish-galleon-the-Armada-campaign-in-just-one-more-version-3.html

Hope I will be able to return to my project at the end of December this year,or in the beginning of the next...

Wish all of you all the Best!!!

Kirill

Frank and NIgel your work is a big inspiration for me so thanks!

 

Kirill, yeah they are simplified. It's my first go at ship building and rigging them like the original is well above my skill limit.

 

Karl, it turned out great!

 

 

 

/Matti

Hi Matti,

When I first time saw Your model ,I never could say that it is Your first "try"...looks very proffessional! 

but if You did so perfect and most complicated job, all those small minority need to be done at the same level, as seems to me

It is not ness-ry to make full guns rigging, may be it will be sufficient to install breeching only and to install all ness-ry ring-bolts without tackles,as You did?

But the question about too thin and short breeching remains...but of couse it is not critical point  

All The best! 

here is the table -auto calculation ropes  thicknes for standing rigging,  

http://files.mail.ru/24119DE76F2E44389306AA8EC6EA5285

sizes of running rigging ropes -refer to Rolf Hoeckel

book "Modellbau von Schiffen des 16 und 17 Jahrhunderts"

oops

this table ,for rope diam.calculation,all terms in russian...useless...I need to translate in english...will take time

Hello J,Hello Popeye

Yes,J, absolutely agree - if planking finished - better don't cut ,just left it as it is...with plastic it is very easy to recover later adjustments,but for wood...i think better don't toch

" we seem to have the beginnings of a Half Moon club going on here"

Yes, Why not as for me - I like galleon type and HM as one of them...since 2009 my interests all the time running around this subject,looking for information abt spanish galleon I acted as vacuum cleaner and collected all info which I can found abt galleons in common and HM in particular even never build it...HM - look nice, hull and decoration and rigging...first glance -looks simple ,but when You be busy with construction it became not so simple...

By my opinion there are two ways building kit (wooden or plastic ,doesn't matter) - just assemble as it is in the kit box as accurate as possible ...or try to  build using available information as much(as could) as possible

I can see that this kit quite accurate reproduction of historical research and could be built very close to existing sailing replica,of cause we can talk just abt one of the HM version

Advantages- those people who build HM sailing replica already did a lot of research and built sailing vessel , looking at rigging plan and hull lines (blue one,above) I can see that it was developed very close to the contemporary drwngs of small duch galleon and kit's hull lines , as I can see -done in the same way...so finaly model also will looks very nice and historical accurate...

however some remarks frm my side as exterior spectator

1. during building spar(masts and yards) need to check/adjust their length and proportion, those from the kit looks disproportionately big,at least in height of the masts and topmasts...I don't know abt diam - need to recalculate

 check and adjust masts and top masts and flagstaf construction and the way of connection 

2.discard kit rigging scheme as inaccurate( too much mistakes) - better use those from existing replica

3.carefully check and adjust thikness of rigging ropes - standing and running rigging should have set of various diameters ,for the model it could be simplified like ,for example fore stay and main stay - same diam, fore and main shrouds -same diam , etc, but masts and topmasts stay and their shrouds need to be different in diam ///and so on regarding rest of the rope

this table(in attach) will help to easilly recalculate diam of the standing and running rigging  depend on main mast diam. measured where it penetrates deck planking...not sure abt used metric system in this table ,if it is comfortably to use

thread for rigging need to be used w/o pile,which is looks unsightly on the model - there are some simple trics to solve such problem( candle flame-just fast pull thread trough, or special bee wax or replace for polyester threads of ness-ry diam.)

4.blocks for running rigging need to be at least 3 different diam.- in case of max. simplification,actually their size should be calculated depend on ropes diameters.

shape of the kit blocks ,as usual, is wrong (need to be more oval and w/o such sharp edges), but correct shape blocks available - need to buy separately,they a little bit more expensive,but looks absolutelly different and nice ...but incorrect blocks ,by my own opinion , just killing nice built models...nice and precission made rigging -may be 70% of model impression

Uph, wrote too much   but this observations, as exterior spectator,may be have sence...at least for me

All The Best!

Kirill

Hi J

I red marked what I meant-scappers - see ,practicaly they made them much more in q-ty compare to the drwng...

Lion Heads on the sides , if we are talking abt the same - for sails rigging

there are more pctrs which could be usefull https://www.flickr.com/search/?q=half+moon+replica in case You didn't see them

this is nice and historical acurate replica - there are a few in the world which build with such good quality,but not like tourists show

Regarding washing for decor - by my opinion, if it used w/o "fanatism"  it always makes positive results -could say as "plastic man"

at least for the gold part of your decor...white -should be washed very-very light or not at all

All The Best 

K i r i l l 

and final pictures in this season  installation the rest of spritsail rigging

next session should happend in september - october ... will try to fabricate and install rest of the fore mast sails and start to do smth with grotmast

Thanks everyone hwo spent time to look at my experiments

ALL THE BEST! 

Next stage,this month and last till my next vacation in september - spritsail making and installation

I used high quality percale for sails making - by my opinion- it is the best material even for scale 1:100 remains more or less acceptable...

For this scale I simplified procedure as much as possible, and use textile clue wherever posible - bolt ropes - clued to the sail edge,cloth connection imitated by pencil sharped to hair thick  and than all lines need to be light squeezed by awl ...

Fabric painted by wood stain in advance soaked in mix of water and white wooden clue and dried without ironing - after such treatment looks and feel like paper -very handle to work with

"I started - in my head - the next Project - the Galeone Roter Löwe"

Hi Max,

sounds "promising"  ! I like this type of vessel

Do You have "The rigging of ships. In the days of the Spritsail topmast 1600-1720 - Anderson" ?- very usefull book when You will be busy with galleon rigging, and also I like and found very informative Duyfken replica fotoes - plenty specific and accurate historical reconstruction could be seen...

Hi J,

paint jobs done very nice...neatly...

did You finish painting or will use "washing" to lift up decor relief and make it more expressive like this blue part of emblem?

 On deck - as I understood there should be scuppers( bulwark cutted through,like we can see on replica) and water-way planks installed?

Sorry for stupid question, I'm not familiar with wooden modelling and don't know the "regulation" You follow building Your  model, may be idea was just follow kit instruction ,but from other side I saw You already replaced mast tops for more correct type...

All the Best!

Kirill