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I would advise against the AL pilot boat. It might have been a decent kit in the past but i recently bought the "renewed" version and was quite dissapointed. The wood is rather cheap, it has too few bulkheads and only a single layer of planks (which requires filling which isn't exactly beginner friendly) and the keel shaper was warped and too thin for it's size.

I would advise against the AL pilot boat. It might have been a decent kit in the past but i recently bought the "renewed" version and was quite dissapointed. The wood is rather cheap, it has too few bulkheads and only a single layer of planks (which requires filling which isn't exactly beginner friendly) and the keel shaper was warped and too thin for it's size.

The discrepancy was between the frames (as well as the body plan) and the  waterlines at 1:12. Something about the waterlines ist seriously off. They appear to be less wide than they should, which makes it difficult to create the ( sadly missing) bevel lines. Truthfully, i am at a loss here. Either i missed something or Fissore realy messed up.

I have recently purchased this little monograph and think that it wouldn't hurt to share some thoughts about it.
The monograph includes a short historical section and, probably more interesting for us, the plans as well as a considerable number of pictures of Mr. Fissore's construction of the vessel. The editing of my english version is...spotty but everything can be more or less understood without too many problems. The pictures are nice, in colour and should be generaly helpful.
Let's get to the plans. There are 11 CAD drawn and pretty detailed plans. 10 for the boat and one for the capstain (visible in Fissore's diorama). Sadly Mr. Fissore has some rather unwelcome habits. While drawing the keel parts on plan 2 separatly is supposed to be helpful one needs to keep in mind that they are somewhat different, perhaps simplified?, from those visible on plan 3 (where they can be seen in a longitudinal view of the boat). Fissore also fails to draw the rabbet in the parts of plan 2 (just like he failed to do in his similar Felucca plans) which is an annoying oversight that adds aditional work.
The frame plans are another, much worse, problem. In the pictures of his buildlog the frames have the usual inner and outer (beveling)lines which helps fairing.
In the plans there are only the outer lines...
This might be acceptable for the square frames but inorder to get acceptable prow and aft frames with a certain bevel we either have to leave some "fat" or we have to construct the beveling lines from the plans.
 
edit: Did some additional measuring and it doesn't look good. The frames are up to 4mm wider than they should be according to the waterlines.
This is not the first seemingly somewhat carelessly drawn plan i have seen from Fissore and i don't think that i will buy any other.

This amount detail on a 1:350 model is truly exceptional.

How complete and of what quality are the Plans?

This amount detail on a 1:350 model is truly exceptional.

Since i find this ship to be rather beautiful i am thinking about buying the kit as a christmas present for me. Yet Artesania Latina isn't exactly blessed with the most stelar reputation and so i would like to know if the kit's quality is good or if there are major problems with it.
 
Thanks,
Daniel

This amount detail on a 1:350 model is truly exceptional.

This amount detail on a 1:350 model is truly exceptional.

This amount detail on a 1:350 model is truly exceptional.

How complete and of what quality are the Plans?

There is also a second one : https://ancre.fr/en/monograph/92-s-caterina-pointu-mediterraneen-1759.html
 
Should be something for everyone. Either a humblef ishing vessel or half of France's naval budget in a single ship

Hi, Lou.
This ship and its crew are heroes of the Russian-Japanese war. Every person in Russia knows about them.
However, the number of reliable drawings is very small. Quality photos are also very small, because the ship was not long in the Russian fleet.
According to archival drawings and old photos, I make my plan.

There is also a second one : https://ancre.fr/en/monograph/92-s-caterina-pointu-mediterraneen-1759.html
 
Should be something for everyone. Either a humblef ishing vessel or half of France's naval budget in a single ship

There is also a second one : https://ancre.fr/en/monograph/92-s-caterina-pointu-mediterraneen-1759.html
 
Should be something for everyone. Either a humblef ishing vessel or half of France's naval budget in a single ship

Is the full framework included into the plans?

Is the full framework included into the plans?

I kind of like the lines for this nice little vessel and so i wonder,
is there any notable difference in quality between these two kits?

My apologies for the semi necro but when will this nice kit become available for purchase?

I voted for the Boyer because it is a somewhat unusual but pretty design.

I voted for the Boyer because it is a somewhat unusual but pretty design.

I voted for the Boyer because it is a somewhat unusual but pretty design.

Is it still possible to purchase the Echo class X Section plans?

Is it still possible to purchase the Echo class X Section plans?