Louie da fly
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Speaking of accidental fires, I love this story from Bob Mortimer on "Would I lie to You?". This man has done things nobody would believe, so it became a saying on WILTY I don't believe it, but if Bob says it, it's probably true." -
Hi Scotty and welcome to MSW. That's a very nice start you've made, particularly for a first-timer! Steven
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Dammit! I should have thought of the generated heat bubbling the paint - it's happened to me in the past. But very glad you found a good solution (which I believe is better than the original). And I like your idea of pre-painting the wood before punching the shields out. Amazingly, you seem to have positioned the punch exactly right to have the pattern centred properly - not an easy thing to do at all . Steven
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Hold them temporarily to a horizontal surface with adhesive putty/mounting putty/Power tack? (we call it blue tack here in Oz, but it has many proprietary names) Steven
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Perhaps you could cut them off then paint them? Then if you have high wastage (by being flung in various directions etc) it wouldn't matter too much. Just paint the ones that turn out well. Oh, and at the risk of being thought annoying, here are some genuine Viking (and Frankish) shield patterns - http://members.ozemail.com.au/~chrisandpeter/shield/shield.html Steven
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Well, of course the boat may not be in its proper place. This is a speculative kit, not a precisely accurate reproduction of a known vessel. A lot of guesswork involved, and I for one think the kit manufacturers got this bit wrong. Steven
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Beautiful ship - beautiful model of her. Just a quick point - it's possible to put more than one picture in a single post. You don't have to do a separate post for each picture. Very nice work. Steven
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That's good news, and it looks like their current reconstruction is much more like the examples from contemporary pictures than their first version. But there's really not very much of her left. Here's a reconstruction model of the existing remains. Here it is compared with the proposed reconstruction: I'm assuming that what they'll display is the existing timbers, with some sort of framework showing the shape of the rest of the hull, as in the models above. And they're even talking about the possibility of building a full-sized reconstruction and sailing it on the Usk river. It would be nice if that could be done, but at the moment I'm not holding my breath . . . I see they're still going with the flat stern, which I'm not so sure about, though I'm aware they justify this by the shape of the aftermost frame. The ship is believed to have been built in 1449, and carracks of this period are always shown as round-sterned in contemporary pictures. The earliest representation of a flat-sterned carrack-style ship I'm aware of dates to 1511. Having said that, ignoring the stern for the moment, the proposed shape does look good. Steven
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Beautiful pics. I didn't know there was a kit for the Great Eastern, one of my favourite ships! Steven
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Looking very good, mate. I wouldn't want to take on all that rope work. Steven
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Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. Dreadful ghastly stuff. Remember visiting the UK and being offered a beer in a pub; as a proud Australian I said "Anything but Fosters . . ." Steven
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Nup - it's all about how Bundy is as much an Aussie icon as the other two: http://www.postkiwi.com/2006/bundaberg-rum-bundy-bear/
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Nice. I can see that the idea of having a separate mortice for each tenon is a little (i.e. VERY) impractical and that at this scale a single long slot does the job just as well. As usual you try out things that nobody else would dream of taking on. Even the pegs fixing the tenons in place! Steven
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As Baker has pointed out in his Pelican build, when the ship left England she was still called the Pelican - she was renamed during the voyage. So in that respect, your model is more correct. On the other hand, I have a feeling that only ships that actually belonged to the monarch would have the right to display the royal coat of arms. My understanding is that though on a royally approved (and subsidised?) voyage, the ship was privately owned. But that's just me being extremely picky. You can actually send a private message to people you want to alert to your build. On the banner at the very top of the page there is a symbol of two intermingled "speech balloons" which allows you to do so. I'd recommend you also contact Baker, whose scratch Pelican build is very thoroughly researched. He's even put a pelican on it. You're quite correct, though; nobody knows exactly what the Golden Hinde looked like. It's all conjecture, or perhaps you could say educated guesswork. There's been quite a lot discovered since this kit was produced, but generally it's a pretty good representation of a "typical" Elizabethan galleon. I look forward to seeing your further progress. I think I'll pull up a chair, break out the popcorn and watch. Steven
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I've had a lot to do with oil lamps, made one or two out of pottery, seen any number of them in Byzantine museums. A bit of an unfair advantage . Steven
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Very interesting model. That strange swelling at the bow is something I've never come across before. I think the thing is a ship-shaped oil lamp, and that is the oil reservoir. The inscription reads something like "holy/sacred/priest/temple of Athens" possibly "sacred to Athens"? Steven
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That's starting to look very interesting, Dick. The cross-section looks considerably more stable in my (admittedly ill-informed) opinion. Have you read "Age of the Galley"? It's a collection of papers on galleys of various eras, including this one IIRC. The issue of protective screens appears in it. I think they suggested it was some kind of wooden lattice, but it's quite a while ago and the rotten local library went and sold the book without offering to sell it to me! Also Prof John Pryor's Age of the Dromon is worth checking out - it contains considerable calculations regarding oar length and angle, and offsets for oarsmen in different banks. He came to the conclusion that the oars of the upper bank should be longer than those for the lower bank. OTOH the builders of the Olympias trireme (IIRC) had them the same length because of issues about pendulums of different lengths having different periods of "swing", so they wouldn't be able to keep in time with each other. Of course that meant the upper bank oarsmen, the thranites, had their oars at a much steeper angle than the bottom bank, the thalamians. Just a few things that might bear thinking about at this early design stage. Steven
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There was another liburnian build log but it seems to be a very different ship, but then there's very little known about what they were like, so there's a fair bi of freedom available in interpreting it. Steven
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With the level of research and care Dick puts into everything he does, I'm looking forward to seeing the result. Steven
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