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  1. David,

     

    The part you are confused about is the inner superstructure wall.  You actually have the part upside down in the photo - the small panel on the far right goes to the left of the 6 in gun mount.  The second panel must be curved to fit in front of the gun mount.  Here are inboard and outboard pics of the area in question - hope these are of use to you.

     

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  2. Well, I have a partial set.  I think you may have trouble finding this, though, since it appears HMV are going wholesale on over to laser-cut detail sets.  Frankly, the laser-cut sets are far easier to deal with.  The brass parts have to be prepped (degreasing plus acid etch), primed, painted, cut out (carefully!), formed, assembled, and then touched up -- it adds up to a lot of work and a lot of hassle.  I also have the PE sets for Undine, Emden, and Victoria Louise, but I will probably replace those with the laser-cut sets, if I ever get around to building any of them (I already have the laser-cut set for Emden, and it is very nice!).  Your best bet to find a PE set, if you're absolutely set on getting one, is probably to dangle an ad at Paper Modelers.

  3. If you truly wish to step back a bit, take a look at some of the kits from Midwest Products.  Their beginner's kits are designed with absolute beginners in mind, and the instructions are some of the best in the business.  Each kit includes a complete list of necessary tools.  They build into very nice models straight out of the box, but can also be super-detailed if one wishes.  Doesn't hurt that Midwest is having a 25% off promo right now, along with free U.S. shipping, making some of their kits under US$20.00.  The Chesapeake Bay Flattie is a particularly good first model.

     

    Cheers!

  4. It is virtually impossible to generalize about the overall quality of one kit manufacturer versus another, due in large part to the fact the kit lines are continuously evolving.  For example, Caldercraft are usually highly recommended, and, generally speaking, their kits are good.  But there is a huge difference in the amount and detail of the instructions included in Caldercraft kits between early designs, like Sherbourne or Convulsion, and later offerings such as Pickle or Badger.  Similar situation at Victory Models, where Chris Watton has gradually been able to get Amati to include more kit-specific fittings and details with each successive design.  As another example, not all of Bluejacket's offerings are in-house designs; some are older kit designs purchased from now-defunct operations (e.g. Laughing Whale).  BJ has made efforts to update some of those kits, but there are still plenty of them out there carrying the BJ label that are essentially Laughing Whale kits.  Other manufacturers (Corel comes to mind) have some kits that are regularly raved about, and other kits that are abominations (ask me about their Flying Fish kit sometime).  So, you really can't single out any manufacturer and generalize by saying their kits are good or bad.  It's usually a case of some of their kits are good, some not so good, and perhaps some are terrible.  Kit quality is almost an issue that has to be taken on a kit-by-kit basis.

     

    Cheers!

  5. Hi, David.  Just got back from Mexico and saw you were on your way with this model.  A couple of things to keep in mind with this model: 1) HMV design tolerances are very tight, so be very careful about positioning parts.  With so many pieces, cumulative 'error creep' can be a problem.  2)  I believe HMV has a laser-cut detail set for this model available now.  If so, it is well worth the money.  3)  Be prepared for some design glitches.  I have this model about half-built, so I may be able to help you when you run into snags.

     

    Cheers!

  6. Pete, don't pull up that chair too soon!  This project is several spots back in the queue.

     

    Ron, are you speaking of the printed parts sheets needed to cut the parts from the wood billets?  Too bad about FSB going out of business, although their web site is still up.  This explains why their inventory has been declining over the years.  It'd be nice if someone purchased the right to update and produce the FSB line of kits.

  7. This is a review I originally published as part of another thread back in 2014. I have updated some of the comments to reflect the current status of the companies mentioned in the review. Enjoy! 

     

    When I bought this kit back in 2014, Freedom Song Boatworks were still in business, but they have since folded. One of the reasons I wanted to get hold of a FSB kit was to compare it to a Midwest Products kit. Interestingly enough, Midwest is also now out of business. Kits from both companies still turn up on eBay, although since far more Midwest kits were made and distributed, they remain much more common on auction sites.

     

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    Evangeline comes in a box about 18" long by about 3.75" square.  There is a color photo of the prototype model on the box.  The contents were packaged neatly. I can't say for certain, but I always got the impression that FSB was a cottage industry, and this is certainly reflected in the kit's design, materials, and packaging.

     

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    The kit comes with three plan sheets showing hull construction details, hull top and side views, and sail plan.  The plans are nicely drawn and easy to understand.  At 1/24 scale, you can see that the kit produces a fair-sized model. There are two two-sided sheets of simple instructions and a one-sided sheet of basic wood modeling techniques. This of course pales in comparison to what's found in any Midwest kit.  No parts list is included.

     

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    Evangeline's hull bottom and sides consist of four pre-cut pieces of pine.  All other sheet parts are printed and must be cut from two sheets of balsa, one sheet of pine, and one small sheet of ply.

     

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    The kit's strip wood and dowels are of good quality.  One of the dowels is slightly crooked, but considering the age of this kit, I'm not too surprised by that.  The included sail cloth has a nice, fine weave.

     

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    The fittings include various kinds of wire and cordage, eye pins, nails, aluminum tubing, brass portholes, and 'blocks' that are actually plastic (or perhaps ceramic) beads. As you can see, there is a very small quantity of parts and materials here, which reflects both the smallish nature of the craft being modeled and the simplified design of the kit.

     

    So, what are my impressions?  Overall, I am satisfied.  I knew up front that the kit builds straight out of the box into a simplified version of a Tancook whaler and is intended for beginning modelers, and I also knew about the printed parts, so I'm not shocked by those features.  My only disappointment is with the plastic beads for blocks -- those will absolutely have to be replaced, but fortunately there are not too many of them.  The rest of the kit components are of good quality -- no complaints there.

     

    As I said in the introduction, one of my reasons for purchasing this kit was to see how it stacks up against comparable offerings from Midwest Products (of which I have built two and have a third in my stash).  There is, IMO, no comparison between the two when it comes to considering their suitability for first-time builders.  Midwest Products kit instructions are the gold standard for kits of this sort - they are extremely detailed, profusely illustrated, and as fool-proof as kit instructions are likely to be.  The two sheets of instructions offered by Freedom Song are well below that standard.  The other big knock against Freedom Song is the large number of printed parts that must be cut out.  Seriously - printed parts is ancient kit technology.  If I'm going to shell out the $59.95 MSRP for this kit (Note: all prices mentioned in this review are listed 2014 prices; keep this in mind when bidding on any eBay offerings), I expect all the parts to be at least die-cut, same as Midwest kits are.  Additional style points must be deducted for the plastic beads for blocks.  I cannot fathom why the more usual wooden blocks were not included, or even plastic or cast metal blocks.  And lastly, we should look at pricing.  The most expensive MSRP for any kit in Midwest's beginner's line is $89.99.  Four of Freedom Song's similar kit offerings are listed at $99.95.  When you consider what you get from Midwest for significantly less money, the choice is pretty easy.

     

    However, there is a final point to be made.  Freedom Song does offer several kit designs that are not available elsewhere, of which Evangeline is but one example.  For a modeler wishing to build one of these designs, or for someone intending to super-detail the basic model, Freedom Song kits are certainly acceptable. Be advised, though, that if you want to keep an eye out for FSB kits on eBay , you may have to wait a very long time for one of these uncommon models to turn up.

     

    Cheers!

  8. Well, as if I don't have enough projects waiting in the wings ...

     

    Freedom Song Boatworks came to my attention many years ago.  Frankly, I find their list prices to be a bit steep, considering what comes in their kits according to their product descriptions (e.g. printed parts -- really?  In 2014?), but they have some unique offerings of American small sailing craft.  So, for some years now I have had them on my eBay alerts list, but usually it is one of FSB's R/C designs that has come up for auction.  But, finally, today I was alerted that a kit of Evangeline, a Tancook whaler, had been listed, so I snapped it up.  When I get around to building her, I will probably do some research with the goal of super-detailing the basic kit.  I'm very interested to see how one of these FSB kits stack up against the superb offerings from Midwest Products.  I will post a review of the kit when it arrives sometime in the next week or so.

     

    Cheers!

  9. With Shipyard, one gets a variety of choices: kit alone, formers alone, plans alone, kit plus formers, and 'complete kits', which include parts, paint, details, rigging, the works.  So at the GPM site, for example, the kits labeled "laser cardboard" are indeed the complete kits -- everything is included.  Price goes up accordingly as well.  Personally, I prefer my wooden subjects to be modeled in wood, especially if I'm going to fork over that much cash.  But, as we have all seen at this site, Doris works wonders with wood subjects built in card, so to each their own.

     

    Cheers!

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