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Might have been, yes. This vessel is of a size which could have had one. It has a tiller rather than a wheel, also characteristic of a small vessel. I believe there is an appropriate size of barrel for the size of cable. This kit version just looks small in diameter to me. Purely my take on it, without any particular documentary evidence.
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They probably have an electric winch to handle the ground tackle, and possibly had a windlass forward on the original. Apparently making capstans was kind of a specialized skill. The kit capstan is kind of skinny and might not work very well.
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These are 1/2" scale, but show the same problem as I have run into with Niagara's 1/64". If you run the weapons out fully, you run out of room for the tackles. These are kit blocks and my rope and hooks.
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Well, for one thing, look at your deck plan. How were you going to work the capstan?
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My copy is a Dover reprint, $9.95. Anderson only talks about parrels and rope trusses, no irons anywhere. His sources are period writings and contemporary models.
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*IF* the drawing is correct, the object may be puddening, a fender of sorts to keep the wooden parts from rubbing on each other. I'm in Dave's camp, the time frame would lead me to parrels. If you can, check R. C. Anderson. He covers that time period.
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In re size, note the relative sizes of the blocks on the pics. They're pretty small.
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Although . . . Here are a couple of shots of Constitution, one of the 24 pdr long gun and one of the 32 pdr carronade. Note the breeching ropes are in a sort of pin arrangement. I don't know where they found this but you could use it for a prototype. Note the two tackles per side on the carronade. Making these will double the number of tackles you need (I know), but the weapon will not function properly without.
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Sorry, Mike, put the ringbolt back in for the breeching. You can put the real ringbolt in the hole, hook everything up on your mock up and transfer to the hull when you're ready. This is one place they didn't want to come apart. If the need arose, a few swipes with the knife everybody carried would release the seizings, and it was easy to replace them when needed. Bottom of sheet 4, right of center has the carronade set up. Note also the extra pair of train tackles, used for aiming the slide. There is also a pair of tackle for bringing the weapon back into battery after loading.
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I am told the snaking was only used when action was imminent. Its effect is to keep a cut stay nearly in position for ease of repair and to keep it from coming down on deck and injuring crew members. This is, remember, the largest and heaviest line on the ship.
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The stain will only go so dark. You reach the point of diminishing returns. Try to keep your spot treatment aligned with the actual planks so it will seem to be variations in the individual planks.
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Question on MS Constitution kit - Channels
jbshan replied to usedtosail's topic in Wood ship model kits
If you were going to do pumps, it would be four. One each fore and main channels, port & starboard. Well-documented but seldom modeled. However, it does give a hint on the width of the channels, to be able to have pumps there behind the deadeyes. -
Breast hook. A deck hook would support a deck and be a continuation of a deck clamp. There would be a whole series of these running down the bows, possibly as far as the foremast step, to hold the sides to the stem.
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Coming along, coming along. Clever find with the basket. You no doubt have a plan to paint the new fashion pieces.
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Question on MS Constitution kit - Channels
jbshan replied to usedtosail's topic in Wood ship model kits
Thanks so much for that, Henry. It fills some gaps for me. Mark, the elm tree pumps could certainly move water, but you need the tank or reservoir for extended use. Placed on the channels, just lower buckets ten feet or so and fill the tanks. Tom, I'm just sort of busting your chops, but wouldn't it be a conversation starter to have on a model? -
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jbshan replied to usedtosail's topic in Wood ship model kits
Fire engines. Think of a wash tub with pump handles. There was one in each of the fore and main channels, inboard of the deadeyes. They were filled by buckets lowered from the channel and could pump through hoses. They were made by Ephraim Thayer, one of whose pumps is in the Boston Fire Museum, apparently quite similar, though that one has wheels. Cmdr. Martin has several references to them. Here is another Thayer engine. Just remove the wheels. -
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jbshan replied to usedtosail's topic in Wood ship model kits
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New and need help to identify a mystery model? Read here first!
jbshan replied to ccoyle's topic in New member Introductions
If you're collecting comments, there are indeed valuable models resembling the usual yard sale/family heirloom. These are usually hundreds of years old and are already in museums, so yours is probably not one of them. -
The colors work much better together now, doncha think? No more Ringling Brothers.
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