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Welcome to MSW! I share your weather as I'm just North of you in Kansas. In fact, we are having a good thunderstorm as I type this. It's good to have you with us and I wish you all the best on your future builds. There is a lot that can be learned here from some great modelers.
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The window framing, hatching and casework I will make out of wood piece by piece. Slow, meticulous and a pain in the rear but that is simply model building. As for all the decorative pieces in between the windows, I do not know. The ones provided were cast in metal and as with most kit fittings, they are not the greatest so even my modest carving abilities should be able to produce something at least on par with what I had. I am considering making molds to cast my own resin pieces but with the scale being what it is, I do not think I could really make a mold that would hold good detail. Unless a better idea comes to me, I plan on just carving my own pieces to the best I can. Haha! Yeah Michael you are right I do stay fairly busy. I enjoy way to many things that there is just simply not enough time for all of them! It is a blessing and a curse as I get to enjoy many things and am rarely bored but I have to prioritize and let go of many areas of interest for the sake of sanity! These last two years have really allowed me a lot of free time for models with the Admiral in graduate school and a clinical internship so I am left to fend for myself a lot. Also a few things like the train are on hold till I finish setting up the new room for it. I am reaching the limits though of what I have time and energy for so I am starting to pick just a few of my favorite hobbies and concentrate more on them. Being a jack of all trades is fun but I think I have reached a stage in my life where it is time to start mastering a couple. The puppy is starting to take care of herself though I wish the potty training would hurry up! Those occasional libations just make everything a little less stressing. Speaking of, I think it may be time to pour a glass and settle in to see what the next stage will be. -
Great Cabin interior is complete! Built the tables and benches this morning and after finding some airline tube for an aquarium while out buying toys and treats for the puppy I managed to finish up the lantern this evening. While it is a little oversized for the scale, I am rather happy with it as I am working in only about an inch of space! In this picture I am holding the stern windows in place. This was the template that came with the kit however, this is not the configuration I will be using. I will modify this to have a 6 window layout with two of those spaces acting as doorways to the balcony. I just wanted to see how much visibility I would have of the interior when it is closed in. I think with the light in there I will be able to see plenty. By the way, the light does flicker to simulate a flame and not just a steady light. Next I am moving upward to the Admiral's Cabin. To do this I need to install the false main deck which covers the entire length of the ship. So before that happens I need to blacken in spaces below gratings or plank them, (yet to be decided), and also install a conduit through all the false decks for the wiring to come out the bottom. This is kind of a crucial step in that once I start planking in this cabin, I do not want to take off this deck again so I need to make sure there is nothing else that needs to be below it. More to follow soon though I may use this as a stopping point to go back and do some more rigging on La Couronne. I will see how quickly the plans for the next steps take shape in my mind.
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You might try ebay. I have bought bunches or "junk" tires on there before for other projects. Probably best bet too for a lot of inexpensive tires.
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Well now I wonder if I should have them or not on my Couronne build. I think since I already went to the trouble of putting them in I will leave them but that does make me question it now. I wonder also if this will be one of those questions addressed in Vasa II whenever that comes out....
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Indeed, it is very useful knowledge! While I have not yet started to tackle drawing ship designs on the computer, it is something that I feel I will be doing before long and having all these tips and explanations handy will be very useful then. So thanks from me as well!
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I agree that the planking will add a cool element to the build and enhance the overall appearance. The tires will also look great and may even prove functional if you have to go out and retrieve a lost ship.
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Welcome to MSW Scott! From a fellow veteran (Navy), glad you made it home and thank you! Best of luck on your future builds and I look forward to seeing your work.
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Welcome to MSW Dave! I understand your trouble of being land locked as I share the same misfortune right next door in Kansas. Glad you decided to come out of the shadows as you will find the community richer still when you can actively participate. Best of luck to you on your Syren!
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Welcome to MSW!! Great to have you with us and best of luck to you on your first wooden ship model!
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Welcome Sjors, good to have you with us and don't worry, you are not too late as this is a slow moving build. Glad you brought that popcorn machine with you, I think people are starting to get hungry. The curves at the stern of S.R. have been much more interesting to build than I was expecting. The hull goes from a nice smooth gentle curve quickly into a rather extreme narrow curve on the last two frames. This has caused some interesting challenges and shapes in my planking. The more I complete the more I believe that once done, everything will look alright but till then?....
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Those belaying pins are great at hiding on the drawings. I have missed several myself but luckily, so far, I have caught them before getting buried. I have found with my set of Corel plans that I have to lay down multiple pages to get the full scope of what is needed for each line of rigging. One page may show the path from the mast or yard, another the close ups of the seizing and a third where it secures to on the deck. While I am getting used to this process now, it took many long and confusing hours to make sense of it all! Glad you were able to fix it without too much trouble!
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I got a lot done tonight and the great cabin takes on more life! Exterior bulkheads are up, doorways to the quarter galleys cut in and built a couple of bench/storage lockers. Next up I am going to try to build a table and a couple of benches and then I will be ready to run the wires to the lights. I plan on trying to design a couple of small hanging lanterns for the lights to go in. I bought flickering LEDs in hope to simulate candle lighting. We shall see.
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Light bleed through is another reason why I am building the interior walls before planking the hull. Once the walls are in place, I plan on sealing off any and all cracks/gaps in the wood work and then I will paint the backside that will be in between the planking layers black. That is what I do on model buildings for my railroad that have lights and it seems to work great. Last thing I want is to turn on the lights and have a glowing ship!
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La Santisima Trinidad 1769 by Liberto - 1805
EJ_L replied to Liberto's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1751 - 1800
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I would think that in practice there would be discrepancies in exactly how ropes were tied off from crew to crew based on the instructions from the bosun. I would think though that while differences would be found between ships, that the same practice would be used throughout the same ship. So I would say, stick with the way you have started so they all look the same the same. Unless your bosun was killed in action and replaced midway through by another who wanted to change the existing practices...
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Thank you to everyone for the nice compliments! I am still far from an expert at this and there are many others on here far better than myself so the kind words mean a lot. Re-dos and start overs are definitely a major component to this hobby but that is usually a sign that you are learning and growing in your understanding of ship construction and the skills to build them. Go ahead though and curse me if you want, I feel the same when looking at some of those other works on here myself. If that cursing is because I inspired you to do something better then I will gladly take it! Inspiration and motivation is what this community is all about and I am proud that I can contribute to that. Anton, I share that same sentiment on having builds from the same time period to compare with. Many of the things I have don on her were inspired from other S.o.t.S. and Vasa builds. While they are not exactly the same many of the features and practices of the era are close enough that they are interchangeable. Again thank you to all for the compliments and the likes! Helps to keep me motivated and pushing myself for better!
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I have not tried the meet in the middle approach but it might be something worth trying. As for being able to see inside the cabins, S.R. has large rows of windows on her stern that will allow people to look inside. Combined with the LED lights that I will be placing inside you should be able to see most of the details fairly well. The real challenge to see inside will come when/if I decide to case her when she is done. Being able to get up close and look will make things easier but if you are several inches away due to the case, I do not yet know how well you will be able to see the interior. I will play around with this as the build progresses and for the next couple of years this will not really be an issue!
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I have always planked from the keel up on the lower hull. The upper hull I usually do first from the lowest wale up. (See my La Couronne build log) On S.R. I had to do it a little different though due to the extensive modifications to the cabins. With needing access to the interior to run wiring and to install the bulkheads and furniture, I had to hold off on the planking. While I do see the advantage of starting from the top down in that you can hide screw ups on the bottom of the ship, if your layout is drawn in properly and you take your time, either way works fine. I do think that if I was trying to do the planking in a single layer I would go from the top down. Thanks for the compliments Popeye! Hopefully they will only look better as they go! The best part of modeling the interior is no one really knows what it looked like. There are a few sketches of the interior dimensions and layout but as far as decorations and the actual furniture I have not yet found anything. So here I can definitely take creative liberties and design the spaces as I think they possibly could have looked.
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The planking continues to go on and on and on but, it is growing as the port side has now reached the lower gun deck. This is a good place to be as at least on that side there are no longer any crazy curves to deal with. The real story of this weekend though is that I have started to build the interior of the great cabin! In order to run the LEDs before the hull is closed up I had to know where they needed to be and in order to figure that out I had to have cabins to put them in. Also, it is far easier to build the cabins now while the hull is open and I actually have room to work. I had though about just leaving the stern off and working the inside from there and while some final details and touch ups may need to take that route, the floors, bulkheads, and many of the other details I want to add can go in now. Thankfully S.R. has a lot of windows on her stern to allow people to see inside her and combined with the lights, I have hope that all this work will not be completely wasted. If I'm wrong then at least these pictures provide proof that I am in fact partially insane.
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Unfortunately life does tend to get in the way of model building but I am glad to see that you have not quit and are continuing along as time and money permit. Looking forward to having you back at it and seeing the updates!
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Are you asking about the deadeyes themselves or the iron rings and chain plates? I think the iron works should be black but I have seen some nice models with them made from brass. Unless the deadeyes are made from a very white wood, in which case I would probably stain them walnut, I would leave them their natural color.
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Welcome to MSW Ian! Great to have you with us! I look forward to seeing your Sirene and don't worry about posting pictures of something that looks bad, we all have those of our builds. Part of the great thing about this community is that we are here to help each other and encourage learning and the continual growth of this hobby. We don't put down and insult work no matter the quality, instead we try to help improve by sharing techniques and tricks to help make things better. I look forward to seeing your build!
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