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thanks Michael and Cristian and everyone watching this When the fillerblocks are ready on both sides. I will start with building up the frames. ( It is my intention to make the inside partly visible through open doors and windows) Before I can do this, I first need to determine the final shape I now have plans and images for 4 different Golden Hinds….( Yes 4 ) The final shape will probably look like this Groetjes Greetings

Hello The upper ends of the frames are provided with supports. So that they can be less easily damaged. I started with the filling of the lower space of the frames ( i think "fillerbloks" is the correct word). Wooden pieces are sawn to length. These pieces are then made at approximately the right shape. And glued between the frames A few frames also had to be adjusted. One side is filled up, and can be sanded. One side is sanded I used this machine to sand the rough shape Some test planking is attached (looks ok) The frame of the stern has been modified and should now have better shape (thanks druxey). One side is done and seems to have the proper shape below the waterline One side to go. Ps, I had picture uploade problems, see : http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/15445-images-size-fixed-at-12-px/ Groetjes Greetings

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Well done. Enjoy the beer Cheers. groetjes Greetings

Thanks, I think that this is the replica that now lies in London. The hull is widened Build in 1973 i think https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmJRWq5g4o8 Work on the first side is going well And the badly made frame at the stern is almost in correct shape. index see post 1 Groetjes Greetings

Hallo The shipyard is restarted. I have started to fill up the space between the frames. When one side is finished there will be A more detailed update. Index see post 1 Groetjes Greetings

Once I need extra parts for my Wasa. I then bought the Norske lowe extra parts set (for a very cheap price) Do you mean these parts. Groetjes Greetings

Greetings from Belgium.

A few examples are there in "The art of shipwright" from Matthew baker. http://nautarch.tamu.edu/pdf-files/Myers-MA%201987.pdf Why this is so. Who knows. But Matthew Baker was very respected as a shipbuilder. Groetjes Greetings

Normally I give your posts a "like This" . But your post N° 368 is the first one i should give a "dont like" . Ik zou zeggen kin omhoog borst vooruit en ... nieuwe blokken maken. Rome is ook niet op één dag gebouwd In English : I would say chin up chest forward and ... make new blocks. Rome was also not built in one day. Good luck with the new blocks ps, Actually, I also had to laugh a little first (sorry) Groetjes Greetings

Thanks everyone for the replies So we can safely say that this wood is not suitable for ship modeling. And is dangerous firewood Groetjes Greetings Patrick

Hello One of our trees was blown down during a small storm It is a Laburnum anagyroides or golden chain, golden rain. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laburnum_anagyroides. During sawing this beautiful brown wood appeared. Does anybody have experience with this? Would it be useful for modeling ?? Otherwise, it's firewood Greetings Patrick

Gewoon toppie Robin !! This can not be translated into English. It just means : fantastic,great job Robin (in Flemish or Dutch) Groetjes Greetings Patrick

Hallo, First. A replica is build of the Spanish galleon San Juan. Great site and beautiful work http://www.albaola.com/en Now : The orlop deck, planking and hatches Most of this deck will not be visible when the ship is ready. I see this work as an exercise to gain experience in deck planking. And if someone looks through a cannon port or a hatch. This will give a better view. There are little or no archaeological finds of decks from English galleons. Only from one ship wreck. One frame was cut out to low. this was adjusted. A first layer of planks is laid and sanded. In order to obtain an even surface The waterway is been placed. A possible layout of the deck There may be only 12 cannons installed instead of 14 (the helm can possibly be in the way) hatches to the lower cargo space Every time I looked at frame 1. I got a headache .... So frame 1 was improved. Much better now. No more headache The second and final layer of planking is placed and sanded. I was so absorbed in this work that I forgot to take pictures while planking the deck Now to to the dummy frames that will be visible in this deck 1 test assembly of frames and a gun port was made I'll just lay one layer of planks on the hull So The next step is to fill the space between the lower part of the frames. And adjust the frame of the transom But it is too wet and cold outside in my garden to do this And I have no indoor space where I can turn on my sawing machine So back to plastic military modeling. Index : see post 1 Groetjes Greetings Patrick

Kurt, I started building the Golden Hind. In particular, it looks that the shape of the underside of the hull is important. Look at the links on my build log of the Golden Hind. http://www.maritimea... design_web.pdf http://www.maritimea...hesis bates.pdf http://www.wessexarc...2Auer-Firth.pdf http://nautarch.tamu...ers-MA 1987.pdf http://www.patrimoni...logia/18/22.pdf http://www.bricksite...6f37c70ca11.pdf Or, just ask. I try to do my best to reply (But I'm not a specialist ) There will by an update of my buildlog soon . Here's a picture in preview Groetjes Greetings Patrick

Welcome back. And well done !! Groetjes Greetings Patrick

Hey Michael Nicely done as always Here you have a picture of the other side Taken in the museum. Take a look at the Wasa plans from Billings. Who also use a "fid" BB490 Wasa_Instruction-2-min.pdf Groetjes Greetings Patrick

Nice work Funny, We use the same tool to cut round circels from styrene sheet. A simple tool which cuts always nice round shapes. Groetjes Greetings Patrick

Thanks, Visiting the Batavia is on my wish list. Maybe next year. Index : see post 1 Groetjes Greetings Patrick

Well done Robin !! A very highly detailed model, to be proud of. This has nothing to do with ships but is very interesting for you (and me) . You should try it. 1 bottle of cheap cognac, NOT brandy 1 orange (prick with a knife in it) 40 lumps (klontjes in dutch) of sugar 40 coffee beans Do this in a pot and wait 40 days, but shake it every 10 days yummy ... Groetjes Greetings Patrick

Thanks for the info about the stern. have checked this and will certainly change this later the book looks interesting. I ask it for my Christmas at the Admiral. Now, The whole idea behind my question about the height of the deck I want open cannon ports And I don’t like the building method as in my Wasa (black holes with semi cannons). That's why I want a deck with enough detail. So, that if you look through a porthole. You do not see black hole with a part of a cannon. But a real cannon and a deck. I hired an assistant. He is 1m60 tall, very cheap and is satisfied with no room and no food. But. A deck of only 1m60, is too low he thinks . but there is still plenty of time to think about this And good news Yesterday we had beautiful weather and no family visits or jobs So, there was wood sawed and the part where te deck is too be attached is sanded to So that I can start with my deck in my hobby room. Without having to make a lot of dust... so Mrs. Backer stays happy also Groetjes Greetings Backer

Thanks everyone for following my build log. And thanks Steven to match with my vision on the dimensions. Well, now I need some help. I can not find what the height of the cannon deck (orlop deck) should by. Does anyone know the height between 2 decks I think it is 1m60 (The average length of a man in the 16th century) Groetjes Greetings Patrick

Well, the shipyard is on hold. But here is something to disscus about. Before drawing the frames i had 2 difficult questions : 1 . What are the dimensions and tonnage of the Golden Hind? Well, even Wikipedia does not match wikipedia (in english): length (deck) 31m, beam : 6.1m, tonnage 100 - 150 ton wikipedia (in german): length 37m, beam : 5.5m, tonnage ,? ton Most sources say 100 and 120 tons. Occasionally 150tons, and somewhereone I found one that says 180 tons. The length is between 31 and 37 m.Length on deck 25m. So no one really knows the right answer. 2. What is the scale that I'm going to build? And what will be the dimensions and tonnage of the Golden Hind compared too the scale i am building After some calculations. The scale of my model will be 1/45. Too calculate the scale and dimensions i used the help from a formula. Keel x Beam x Depth Keel x Beam x Depth ----------------------------- = Tonnage or (the easy way) --------------------------- Keel + Beam + Depth 100 And 1m = 3.28 feet. My model is : Keel 0.42m - Beam 0.15m - Depth 0.075m - scale 1/45 Keel = 0.42x45x3.28 = 61.99 feet Beam = 0.15x45x3.28 = 22.14 feet Depth = .075x45x3.28 = 11.07 feet This gives following dimensions Tonnage : 161 tons or 154 tons with the easy formula. Length on deck will be : 22.95m = 75.27 feet Length of the hull will be 32.6 m = 106,92 feet Overall length will be : 37 m = 121.36 feet width of the hull will be : 6.75 m = 22.14 feet Depth will be : 3.37m = 11.07 feet ratio keel / beam : 2.8 How to get between the 100 to 120 tons and retaining the length of 31 to 37m (like mentioned in most sources). By reducing the beam and - or depth. Suppose : Keel = 0.42x45x3.28 = 61.99 feet Beam = 0.13x45x3.28 = 19.19feet Depth = .065x45x3.28 = 9.6 feet This gives 113 tons or 114 tons with the easy formula. But in doing so, the ratio keel / beam changes to 3.23 If you compare the studies about the Gresham ship, furring and ship building in the 16th century. Than a keel/beam ratio of 3.23 leads almost to a “crank ship” A logical consequence is that a ship of that length with 100 to 120 tons is quite narrow and maybe not stable. Especially if you then put all the guns on the upper deck. As on some ship models. Unless one increases the depth drastically. in order to increase the stability. I was never a highly educated student (now also not). But : A ship that could sail around the world and could conquer a bigger Spanish galleon. Must be seaworthy and should by a stable platform to fire his guns. If anyone thinks that I am completely wrong about this Please let me know. I have all winter to think about it used links for this study http://www.maritimearchaeology.dk/downloads/Furring%20in%20light%20of%2016th%20century%20ship%20design_web.pdf http://www.maritimearchaeology.dk/downloads/Full%20thesis%20bates.pdf http://www.wessexarch.co.uk/files/PMA41.2Auer-Firth.pdf http://nautarch.tamu.edu/pdf-files/Myers-MA%201987.pdf http://www.patrimoniocultural.pt/media/uploads/trabalhosdearqueologia/18/22.pdf http://www.bricksite.com/uf/40000_49999/48372/7e570040536647340b5566f37c70ca11.pdf Groetjes Greetings Patrick

My opinion A kit. so old. The decals will probably fall apart if you put them in water. The plastic looks ok. But if it is from a "short run" manufacturing. then The quality will be very low. You will want, or need to replace many parts (Extra cost). And You will, after much work, end up with a model which costs almost as much as a new model kit. But with less work. I would not do it Groetjes Greetings Patrick