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I have heard that the boats were sometimes painted different colors for identification at a distance. -
Cruizer-class Brig-Sloops of the Royal Navy
michaelpsutton2 replied to molasses's topic in Nautical/Naval History
I have a few questions concerning these brigs: 1.) The NMM has a sail plan for the Sophie of 1809. The description is "late 19th century". Does anyone know what this is about? It appears to be a modern reconstruction. The dimensions do not exactly firt any earlier source. 2.) Were the royals set flying or would you rig braces. 3.) At what point would you have a martingale/dolphin striker?. There seems to be some evidence for setting spritsails and even sprit topsails. 4.) When might you add a topgallant foc'sle. -
model shipways essex
michaelpsutton2 replied to wayne mcmullin's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Use the spar dimensions from The Essex Papers" by Phililp Chadwick Foster Smith augmented by both Steels "Elements of Mastmaking Sailmaking & Rigging" and Masting & Rigging" by James Lee for details. -
I have always though hinged and hung, but many early portraits show no lids or maybe only one forward on the bridle port and two or three aft where the officers quarters were. I don't think I have ever seen a definitive answer.
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Will you hang gunport lids or will you go with the idea that they were removable?
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Is it possible to obtin a copy of the Kearsage info
Thanks
Mike
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Does anybody know what the rules, customs , conventions concerning the Royal Navy's use of lanterns in the main top? Which ships carried them in what periods?
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Mast Partners in ships of the line
michaelpsutton2 replied to michaelpsutton2's topic in Masting, rigging and sails
Thanks. I was looking for where to measure the given diameter. I do know that wedges and coats were fitted on all decks to prevent "working" in a seaway -
On what deck are the partners in a two or even three decked ship of the line? The lowest gundeck? The upper continuous? I am sure it is not on a berth deck or the orlop. What about the mizzen? It passes through one or more half decks. This is at least a small concern when measuring the diameters of the quarters of a mast.
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Chain would be really tough on the edges of a bridle port. I'll bet the hatch never fit again
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I believe that they are a kind of fairlead for mooring in what is being used as a bridle port.They may have been intended for use with chain.
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I do not think there is a single extant contemporary painting showing the sails of a US Naval vessel (or British) with red sails.
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https://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/84960.html https://collections.rmg.co.uk/collections/objects/84959.html HMS Griffon, Lynx, Termagant, Charybdis, & Forester 1831-38
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You might consider looking at the Ware sail plan for the USS Spark. Note one lower corner of the gaff topsail secures in the top just like what we see in the drawing of the Enterprise. The sail in the Enterprise is brailed up .
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If I understand correctly the concept behind the paintings is not some photograph? I am truly impressed. The paintings look like they have been agonized over for day. To be able to go from the mind to such a completely articulated vision!!
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It's really amazing to see the development up from the conception sketch. Is the white on the sails, hull and foam still watercolor? I am guessing the sky/sea is a watercolor wet on wet blended technique. Thanks for the demo
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I have been admiring your amazing work for months and am a painter myself. Some of your paintings remind me of the late Montaque Dawson's sailing ship pic's. How long does it take for you to paint one? Could you post some pictures of the process? A paint log as it were.
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I think your lowly airfix kit has a reasonably possible color scheme. Certainly better than many I see. Congrats, nice work!
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And finally... Here is a picture of one of the replicas, the later I think. I have labeled three areas I take issue with. First is the molding mentioned above. Second is the lack of a curved ornamental "badge" surrounding the quarter light (window). And number four the exposed, red painted stantions on the quarter deck are not supported by the plans. Please note that number three was a question about the channels which has been resolved by further examination of the plans
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Which brings us to an interesting point. If you will look at the enclosed extract from the original plan, I have marked 3 lines. As I understand them, they are" 1 upper edge of the reducing plank, 2 the upper edge of the main wale/lower edge of the reducing plank, and 3 the lower edge of the main wale. Both replicas seem to have a raised molding painted yellow and no sign of the wale. I would omit the rail as it is not shown on the plans and would paint the both wale and reducing plank black
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This image is much closer to correct. The only change I might consider is changing the little bit of blue on the topsides to black. Changing the wale feom yellow ro black and changing the area below the wale to varmishd
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The 1950's replica was painted blue. This is almost certainly wrong. At most maybe )just maybe and not likely) the quarter deck bulwarks were painted blue.In addition this replica was erroneously fitted with a spanker boom and a mizzen top-gallant mast. Neither of which were to be found on the original
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The masts would have been varnished or painted in pitch. The yards, wouldings, doublings, tops, and caps black. I am not sure what you mean by demarcation.
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