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The subsciption frigate New York and other details
Seahawk1313 replied to CharlieZardoz's topic in Nautical/Naval History
The transom is just my best guess, based on what was recovered, the Annapolis taffrail. I've studied Wm. Rush's work for many years and try to see the carvings as he might have. The President carvings were interesting in that while not by Rush, Daniel N. Train was trained by by him. My take on the President based on written description, Corne' didn't do a painting of the stern.- 51 replies
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I love all the devises you make and use, I have copied some and they are very handy. I follow your excellent work with great interest- Hal
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Seahawk1313 replied to CharlieZardoz's topic in Nautical/Naval History
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Seahawk1313 replied to CharlieZardoz's topic in Nautical/Naval History
My computer programmer son is trying to show me how to post pics. These are some ideas for the Philly's taffrail I am playing with. I think I spotted a Lion Head on the right side and either a Griffon or a Hydra on the left side. I may be seeing thing? I like the one with the Griffon-- 51 replies
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Seahawk1313 replied to Worldway's topic in Painting, finishing and weathering products and techniques
Hi Derek, Windex, a mild Ammonia window cleaner works great for thinning and cleaning acrylic paints and the airbrush. I used a Passache airbrush for 40 yrs. with no problems, but there are many newer types today. Hal -
Great job on the rigging, giving me motivation to get back to rigging my USF Philadelphia. You are doing very impressive work. A pleasure to watch your work. Hal
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American sailing warships with no plans or records
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Wasp I, George S. Parker did 5 boats and Herb Ebsen did 3. From what I remember ,"Dangerous", Wasp I and Hornet originally didn't have any whaleboats, only cutters, etc. Does anyone know when the Navy first started using whaleboats ? Date / Ship ?- 401 replies
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Beautifully done, very impressive work. I have enjoyed seeing your log and your wonderful build. A builder is always harder on his work, you did excellent.-Hal
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Beautiful work, very well done. I love seeing how different people do things and solve problems that come up. Keep up the excellent job.-Hal
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Pandora by marsalv - FINISHED - 1:52
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Your Work is truly outstanding! Precise and very clean. Very impressed, I wish I had your talent. - Hal -
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Seahawk1313 replied to CharlieZardoz's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Benjamin Henry Lathrobe was the Architect for the Federal Buildings in Washington D.C. It would be interesting if he did the design of the carvings on the Hornet, and if they were used. If they were I doubt he did the carving work. The Seaman's Bank model of the Frigate isn't likely to be the New York as it was Spar Decked, the model appears to have a step at the gangways like the Essex (as built). The model looks in the style of the Essex. It would be interesting to see if the Bank has more information on the model. - Hal- 401 replies
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Seahawk1313 replied to CharlieZardoz's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Talos- Hornet stern carvings are great! Where did you find them? 1805 Hornet also had a removable Eagle figurehead, for harbor use, and a scroll from sea. I wonder if the trailboards followed the style on the stern? I may have the revisit my Hornet Brig. Do you know who the carver was? On the United States. I 'm not convinced she had double tier quarter galleries, most painting of her,early ones, seem to show single tier. Chapelle covered a lot,but wasn't correct all the time, I guess he was human like the rest of us.LOL-Hal- 401 replies
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Beautifully done, your are a great artist, very impressed.-Hal
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Rich, you can do as you like. in reality the ships changed as each Captain liked, and you are the Captain of that beautiful ship. I asked my son to take some pictures of my old Argus, may take some time- my 2 year ago and 3 month old grandsons keep him busy. Weather on L.I. has been great, I should be doing yard work, but I am trying to finish the hull work on my Frigate Philadelphia so I can start rigging. And I started the frames for the 1799 Frigate Congress. If I can learn how to do it I will start a building log. Old dogs can learn new tricks, it just takes time. Stay safe and good luck with the Storm!- Hal
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Seahawk1313 replied to CharlieZardoz's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Hi Steve, What I have is from the Pennsylvania Historical Society. Letter to Joshua Humphreys from William Rush, April 30, 1975. It is his suggestions for the decorations for the six frigates. They are all allegorical. Congress: "Congress being the great Legislative body on which the Majesty of the Revolution alone can rest, it ought to be represented by the Goddess of Wisdom, reclining upon a pedestal, supported by the Cardinal Virtues--on top of which should be a Number of Volumes, supposed to be the laws framed by the Legislature. In her right hand should be the Constitution, Elevated so that the figure should be looking up to it- the Consequences flowingfrom the Law under a Wise Administration might be represented by the emblems of the Arts,Sciences,Industry,peace,plenty and independence,etc." He wanted all the stern carving to have a similar theme. The book on Rush's carving show some of his allegorical figures, plus with the descriptions of the President and Constellation sterns, you can piece together what it may have looked like. Not much, but at least something. The figurehead was also the Goddess of Wisdom. Rush carved the figurehead, but Deering carved the stern. I just don't know if he followed Rush's idea. Unless I find anything on Deering work I will do something Rush like. I need to learn to scan and put stuff on here. I haven't typed this much since I worked on my History MA many many years ago and my fingers don't work that great anymore . Just a P.S. In the letter he calls the Chesapeake the Revolution. Batten down the Hatches and stay safe! Hal- 401 replies
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Poor Old 1799 Congress, the "Dangerfield" of the Navy. She did serve and cruise, both in the Barbary Wars and War of 1812, but no great battles. She also went to China in 1819. Working on Keel and Frames, Hope to do a building Blog... Charlie the first painting, of the Constellation, do you know who painted it and when? Also the painting of the launch of the Ship of the Line Washington, the frigate in the painting is most likely the Congress (in 1814). Not great, but shows 5 stern windows. I have a description of what Rush envisioned for the Congress stern, but I don't know if Deering followed it?- Hal- 401 replies
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That one in the painting is the Vixen. Going left from the Connie the small ships are: Vixen,Syren,Argus,Nautilus, and Enterprize. All ship details and Ids were by Preble and his officers with Corne'.-Hal
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Hello Rich, My Argus was one of the first of my fleet, bread and butter built, now only build POF. Model is at my son's home will get him to take some pictures of it. I based the model on two articles I had: "A Naval Architectural Study of the U.S.Brig Argus by W.M.P. Dunne in Nautical Research Journal,Vol.34,No.3,September 1989 and The Mariner article "The Brig of War Argus" by H.I.Chappelle ,Vol. VII no.1, January,1933. I also used the Corne' painting of the Constitution at Tripoli, the Argus is the third ship from the left, good picture on this site. I think at at Tripoli she had removable half lids like Syren, but may have had hinged lids during the War of 1812(?) The picture you have of the deck is from the Smithsonian model and is maybe more 1812 .-Hal
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Hello, your build is very nice, very well done. I have only one comment to make, You might want to have the water closet doors open inward instead of outward. Cannon and steering gear would be in the way. I ran a lot of old wood boats in my younger days and that's what the way most were done to keep gear from being in the way. I did a model of the Argus 30 + years ago, still think it was a great ship. Will follow your build with interest. Hal (Seahawk1313)
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Your ship is coming along very nice. Be safe, this storm looks bad, my in-laws are in your area, good luck- Hal,Seahawk1313
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Seahawk1313 replied to CharlieZardoz's topic in Nautical/Naval History
A good book is _William Rush American Sculptor, Pennsylvania Academy of Fine Arts,1982.-Hal- 401 replies
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Seahawk1313 replied to CharlieZardoz's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Thank You for the E-Book. It's interesting to see his style of carving eagles, columns. and details. Now do you have anything on the work of William Deering? I'm about to start 1799 Congress. I found almost nothing on the Internet so far as for his carvings. I know the Portsmouth Newspaper didn't care for Rush's figurehead, but it didn't say anything about the stern carvings. I know what Rush had in mind for it but don't know if Deering followed it... And thank you again for the E-Book,will read it my great interest. Hal- 401 replies
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Seahawk1313 replied to CharlieZardoz's topic in Nautical/Naval History
Hi Steve, Description of the Essex stern is what I had, with 4 cannon barrels coming out behind the shield.. I have been looking for books on McIntires' carvings , do you have any titles? Hal- 401 replies
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