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Hi Ferit: I agree about taking a break - I've been feeling less pressure to work on the Greyhound, especially as my schedule fills up with other things... As for the decorative elements, I think I'm going to leave them off...at least for now. The bulwarks are now masked behind the shrouds, so I can't get at them even if I wanted - the transom I might still try something with and I will probably end up finishing the kit supplied figurehead and using that....we'll see. Anyway, thanks for coming by! Look forward to more of your Berlin soon hamilton -
True enough Bob! I don't mind them too much, but after so many days it starts to feel like I'm in a deep rut.....in the past (for) now! hamilton
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Hi Ferit - I was wondering where you were - haven't seen any Berlin updates recently! Nice to hear from you. I'm not in a position to post such a photo now, but will do so as soon as I can - gotta run hamilton
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Thanks all! hamilton
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Well the ratlines are done - thankfully! This phase of ship modelling always feels like a weird stall...the repetitiveness of it, the endless clove hitches...I'm thankful it's done - now I know that it will feel like things are picking up again. Of course I probably won't have much time to work on Blandford in the coming weeks, but it's good to know that the standing rigging is now complete! Here's a photo. Enjoy and happy modelling hamilton
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Thanks all for the compliments - as always much appreciated! Still mired in tying ratlines, which I hope to finish this evening (if I can finish up some work this afternoon). Then finally it'll be back to some more interesting work on the build - namely, constructing, outfitting and rigging the yards....then on to the final stages - sweep ports, sweeps, anchors, finishing the lanterns and the figurehead. Probably won't finish until after Christmas at this point, but that just means more time with this build, which has been as fun as it's been frustrating. Bye for now hamilton
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Hi Collingwood: Wow - this is commitment! I wonder - will this be at all visible once the hatches, etc. are added on the main deck? Or were you thinking of cutting out a section of the planking and showing an interior section at mid-ships - this would resolve the issue of having invisible interior details, though it might be a bit difficult to achieve....anyway, I admire your bravery in tearing this kit down to the nuts. I'll also offer my advice on the metal cabin bulkhed - ditch it!! If you're willing to make interior details that no one will see, then you should definitely apply your skills to crafting a bulkhead to replace the awful piece supplied by Corel! Anyway, this is shaping up to be a very interesting build - I'm very curious to see how it all comes together hamilton
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Looking great! hamilton
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Sorry to hear of your loss Andy! Take care hamilton
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The planking looks great. That stern looks like a bit of a challenge - but handled well. hamilton
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Well there's only been modest progress on Blandford lately - things are gearing up at work and there is no longer the time I used to have for modelling. I expect that I'll be slowing down considerably, between work, baby and upcoming holidays.....bits and pieces here and there I suspect....we'll see how things go. In the meantime, here are a few pictures - since last post I've attached and rigged the fore topgallant mast, added rigging for the fore staysail & jibsail and tied a whole bunch of ratlines (still the fore mast ratlines to go!!). Hope you're all having fun out there hamilton
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Good planning and an interesting start - is the Lyme one of the later 6th rates of this class that has the squared off beakhead and the mizzen mast & ship's wheel on the quarterdeck? There are some images in the AOS Blandford that show some period models of 20-gun ships and the book talks extensively about the evolution of this class of vessel from the 1719 Establishment up to the early 1740s. Where the quarterdeck is extended, it also houses the mizzen mast and the ship's wheel is close to the forward edge - though I'm not sure this applies to the Lyme...... hamilton
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So far so good - I'm interested to see how the stern modifications work out as the kit develops. I also like your approach to the bow fillers - they might need quite a bit of fairing down to produce a smooth run, but installing them this way seems like a good way of getting a nice round bow. hamilton
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Hi Collingwood: It's hard to say how much extra the kit comes with as I have replaced a lot of the components - I only used the supplied stripwood for the 1st planking and that was more than adequate. But because of the finish I wanted to achieve, I used stock that I purchased myself. Also I found that some items supplied by corel (the eyebolts and split rings) were horribly out of scale. I scratch built most of the metal kit supplied parts, including the quarterbadges, head rails, capstan, forecastle timberheads/knightheads; forecastle & quarterdeck rails, etc. These metal parts I found to be woefully inadequate and though my own scratch building skills are minimal I think I achieved better results myself than by using the supplied parts. I've also replaced all of the kit supplied rigging line, which is also out of scale - .25mm is the smallest line supplied and is way too wide for some of the smaller lines (like the topgallant ties or the staysail rigging (which is also a feature I added). The blocks and deadeyes are adequate for the purpose, but they only supplied one size (5mm), and these are out of scale for the topmast shrouds and the bobstays/bowsprit shrouds and backstays, which I used 3mm replacements for (not supplied in the kit). I also received (thanks to another forum member) some 2mm blocks that I've used for the staysail rigging and for adding crowsfeet on the lower mast stays. Anyway, if you're trying to achieve a different vessel out of the kit supplied parts, you might need to replace many of the items supplied in the kit - though I imaging that they are adequate for building the kit as represented on the box. hamilton
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Hi Collingwood: Nice to see you have a start here. You might have already noticed that the keel does not fit the drawing of the CNC part provided on the plans. In fact, I recommend you leave Corel's plans and instructions behind almost entirely. They are vague and even deceptive. Check the bulkheads carefully - I had to shore up bulkheads 9 and 10 considerably (adding a good 8mm worth of .5mm veneers to create a fair hull). There are areas where you need to modify the bulkhead edges a lot to get a fair run of planking. Not sure how much ship modelling experience you have, so maybe these words are expended unnecessarily - and apologies if they are! It's a frustrating build to begin with but is quite a bit of fun in the offing. Keep in mind the fudges or structural modifications that might be necessary in order to achieve certain effects - like the open bulwarks as represented on the HMS Blandford, which I achieved at some cost to overall integrity because I did not foresee the structural modifications that would have been necessary in order to get a "perfect" look.... Anyway, bonne chance and let me know if my experience with the kit can benefit you at all hamilton
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Hi Collingwod: Thanks for clarifying hamilton
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Great work Ron - I agree with Sam about it being a testament to patience! hamilton
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Some good advice and great tips - thanks! hamilton
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Great technique, Jason - I tried this same way of making octagonal sections for the heels of my topmasts as well as the topmast hounds on Blandford, but the scale is so small and my skills so poor, that the result was nowhere near as nice as yours! Very well done! hamilton
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Thanks Joss. hamilton
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Exciting times! The planking looks to be coming together nicely Richard - she'll be a beauty hamilton
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Thanks Ron! Much appreciate - I've been admiring your work on the Oneida! Hi Collingwood - perhaps this could work, but I think you might encounter problems since the Corel keel does not really correspond to the plans you've posted above - it is simply too short. You might get away with it with a different quarter gallery arrangement than the one depicted in the images you've posted - Goodwin depicts one with a single window that could accommodate a tenth gunport given Corel's design. I'm curious about the second image - the one marked "Blandford, Lynx & Scarborough". It's clearly taken from Goodwin's Anatomy of the Ship HMS Blandford - one of the primary sources I've been using. But I'm curious about the cyrillic characters in the bottom left....is this an image you found online? Or a scanning of a hard copy plan sheet that you have? hamilton
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Hi Collingwood: You're right - there are definitely challenges in trying to realise an authentic Greyhound (or Blandford) out of this kit. The bulwark step is one issue that I had to fudge and that will remain a bit of a sore point with me. As for the gunports - Corel has chosen to make the foremost "bridle" port into a gunport, which results in the "missing" gunport aft that you notice. There really is no room on this kit for adding that aftmost port. I chose to represent the Blandford awkwardly as an "18-gun" ship, since putting cannons in the foremost port would have blocked the ladders to the forecastle - thus I figured them as "bridle ports" and of necessity had to drop the number of cannons.....I don't know how this could have been solved with this kit - it would have required a considerable elongation of the centre keel and the addition of another bulkhead piece...... hamilton
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Still can't get over how good the trunnels look!! Looking good Bob hamilton
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Thanks Collingwood - You should also check out (if you haven't already) Harlequin's log of the Greyhound. The kit has some issues, and I advise you to be patient with it. As noted earlier here, I've been relying heavily on Goodwin's Anatomy of the Ship HMS Blandford as well as Lees' Masting & Rigging of English Ships of War. Both have been useful, though they throw into harsher relief the deficiencies of the kit. I've made a lot of modifications, but I think that even if you follow the construction suggestions supplied by Corel it builds up into a very nice model - Harlequin's build is a case in point. Just go slow and do a lot of forward planning! You should start a log on MSW - I'll certainly follow with interest, and I'd be happy to provide any tips or suggestions along the way should you require them. Good luck! hamilton
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