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Wire drawplate holes are actually "funnel shaped." The wire is inserted in the larger side of the hole and drawn through the narrower side of the hole, thereby stretching and compressing the wire to the smaller dimension as it's drawn through. (This is why the wire ends up longer than it was before drawing.) Wooden drawplates shave the wood off the piece with their sharp edges, so, if one is using a metal drawplate, the wood is inserted in the small side of the hole and drawn out the large side of the hole so the sharp edges of the small side shave off the wood to the desired dimension. If one wants to use a wire drawplate for wood shaping, it's advisable to lap the face of the "narrow side" so that the edges are sharpened.  (Making your own draw plate for round wood pieces is a simple matter of drilling the desired size hole in a metal plate and lapping the face of the plate.)

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I'm very relieved to see you are building the Le Martegaou and sharing your progress here on Modelshipworld. Your skills are far better than mine and I didn't take the care you did with frame alignment so I'm sure I'm headed for more pain and misery. I'd love to know what the name/source is of your aluminum 90 degree brackets are ? I've seen legos used but these look easier to use.  I'll post photos of my progress ( cringing slightly ).

Chapter 4 - Stern, gratings and prow
I've replaced the plywood stern and made a new one out of limewood strips.
 

 

 

 
All other plywood parts I've replaced with solid walnut. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
At the prow of the ship, some gratings has to be made. I use a cardboard template to cut out the gratings.
 

 

 

 

 
regards,
Peter

Chapter 14 - Woodcarving continues part 2
 
One side done, the other side I'll start this weekend.
 

 

 

 

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

More Vincenzo Lusci Plans
HMS Aldabarn 1790 Cutter.  1 large sheet, was 2 sheets but the full size patterns have been cut out and are included.  $5 + shipping.
 
Norman Ship.  3 Large Sheets, was 4 sheets but the full size patterns have been cut out and are included.  $5 + shipping. Sold
 

 

Nice looking boat.  Would be an interesting kit in wood and 1:48 scale.

She who must be obeyed has pointed out many times that I have so many kits and sets of plans that I will be well into my second century by time I finish them all.  Finally had to admit she is right.  Over time I will be posting several kits and plan sets for sale.
I think I have set prices at a reasonable level but offers will be considered.  Trades might be possible but I would really rather sell everything.  Prices do not included shipping.  If you don't see what you are looking for let me know and I will see what I have in that stash.
Kits:  All kits are 100% complete and in excellent condition
3.  Panart Lynx  $160

 
Plan Sets:
1. Sidewheel Steamer "James M. Donahue" 1875 Smithsonian plan # 16-41.  13 sheets (3 17x22, 10 17x35)  1/8" scale.  Printed on heavy paper.   $65 ($130 from Smithsonian)
2. Tern Schooner "William Bisbee"  1902 Smithsonian Plan # HAMMS 8-62.  3 sheets (1 17x22, 3 17x35)  3/16" scale.  Printed on heavy paper.  $15

3. Centerboard Schooner "Virginia" 1879 Smithsonian Plan # HAMMS 8-23  10 sheets (4 17x22, 6 17x35) 3/8" scale.  Printed on heavy paper.  $50

 

Plans by Vincezo Lusci
1.  San Felipe 1690 Ship of the Line. Scale 1:100  6 large sheets and a full set of sails.  Includes full size frame patterns.  $50 + shipping.



2.  Navire Royal Egyptien.  1 large sheet and a sail.  $10 + shipping.  Sold
 
 
 
 
 
 

Plans by Vincezo Lusci
1.  San Felipe 1690 Ship of the Line. Scale 1:100  6 large sheets and a full set of sails.  Includes full size frame patterns.  $50 + shipping.



2.  Navire Royal Egyptien.  1 large sheet and a sail.  $10 + shipping.  Sold
 
 
 
 
 
 

Plans by Vincezo Lusci
1.  San Felipe 1690 Ship of the Line. Scale 1:100  6 large sheets and a full set of sails.  Includes full size frame patterns.  $50 + shipping.



2.  Navire Royal Egyptien.  1 large sheet and a sail.  $10 + shipping.  Sold
 
 
 
 
 
 

Plans by Vincezo Lusci
1.  San Felipe 1690 Ship of the Line. Scale 1:100  6 large sheets and a full set of sails.  Includes full size frame patterns.  $50 + shipping.



2.  Navire Royal Egyptien.  1 large sheet and a sail.  $10 + shipping.  Sold
 
 
 
 
 
 

She who must be obeyed has pointed out many times that I have so many kits and sets of plans that I will be well into my second century by time I finish them all.  Finally had to admit she is right.  Over time I will be posting several kits and plan sets for sale.
I think I have set prices at a reasonable level but offers will be considered.  Trades might be possible but I would really rather sell everything.  Prices do not included shipping.  If you don't see what you are looking for let me know and I will see what I have in that stash.
Kits:  All kits are 100% complete and in excellent condition
3.  Panart Lynx  $160

 
Plan Sets:
1. Sidewheel Steamer "James M. Donahue" 1875 Smithsonian plan # 16-41.  13 sheets (3 17x22, 10 17x35)  1/8" scale.  Printed on heavy paper.   $65 ($130 from Smithsonian)
2. Tern Schooner "William Bisbee"  1902 Smithsonian Plan # HAMMS 8-62.  3 sheets (1 17x22, 3 17x35)  3/16" scale.  Printed on heavy paper.  $15

3. Centerboard Schooner "Virginia" 1879 Smithsonian Plan # HAMMS 8-23  10 sheets (4 17x22, 6 17x35) 3/8" scale.  Printed on heavy paper.  $50

 

She who must be obeyed has pointed out many times that I have so many kits and sets of plans that I will be well into my second century by time I finish them all.  Finally had to admit she is right.  Over time I will be posting several kits and plan sets for sale.
I think I have set prices at a reasonable level but offers will be considered.  Trades might be possible but I would really rather sell everything.  Prices do not included shipping.  If you don't see what you are looking for let me know and I will see what I have in that stash.
Kits:  All kits are 100% complete and in excellent condition
3.  Panart Lynx  $160

 
Plan Sets:
1. Sidewheel Steamer "James M. Donahue" 1875 Smithsonian plan # 16-41.  13 sheets (3 17x22, 10 17x35)  1/8" scale.  Printed on heavy paper.   $65 ($130 from Smithsonian)
2. Tern Schooner "William Bisbee"  1902 Smithsonian Plan # HAMMS 8-62.  3 sheets (1 17x22, 3 17x35)  3/16" scale.  Printed on heavy paper.  $15

3. Centerboard Schooner "Virginia" 1879 Smithsonian Plan # HAMMS 8-23  10 sheets (4 17x22, 6 17x35) 3/8" scale.  Printed on heavy paper.  $50

 

She who must be obeyed has pointed out many times that I have so many kits and sets of plans that I will be well into my second century by time I finish them all.  Finally had to admit she is right.  Over time I will be posting several kits and plan sets for sale.
I think I have set prices at a reasonable level but offers will be considered.  Trades might be possible but I would really rather sell everything.  Prices do not included shipping.  If you don't see what you are looking for let me know and I will see what I have in that stash.
Kits:  All kits are 100% complete and in excellent condition
3.  Panart Lynx  $160

 
Plan Sets:
1. Sidewheel Steamer "James M. Donahue" 1875 Smithsonian plan # 16-41.  13 sheets (3 17x22, 10 17x35)  1/8" scale.  Printed on heavy paper.   $65 ($130 from Smithsonian)
2. Tern Schooner "William Bisbee"  1902 Smithsonian Plan # HAMMS 8-62.  3 sheets (1 17x22, 3 17x35)  3/16" scale.  Printed on heavy paper.  $15

3. Centerboard Schooner "Virginia" 1879 Smithsonian Plan # HAMMS 8-23  10 sheets (4 17x22, 6 17x35) 3/8" scale.  Printed on heavy paper.  $50

 

She who must be obeyed has pointed out many times that I have so many kits and sets of plans that I will be well into my second century by time I finish them all.  Finally had to admit she is right.  Over time I will be posting several kits and plan sets for sale.
I think I have set prices at a reasonable level but offers will be considered.  Trades might be possible but I would really rather sell everything.  Prices do not included shipping.  If you don't see what you are looking for let me know and I will see what I have in that stash.
Kits:  All kits are 100% complete and in excellent condition
3.  Panart Lynx  $160

 
Plan Sets:
1. Sidewheel Steamer "James M. Donahue" 1875 Smithsonian plan # 16-41.  13 sheets (3 17x22, 10 17x35)  1/8" scale.  Printed on heavy paper.   $65 ($130 from Smithsonian)
2. Tern Schooner "William Bisbee"  1902 Smithsonian Plan # HAMMS 8-62.  3 sheets (1 17x22, 3 17x35)  3/16" scale.  Printed on heavy paper.  $15

3. Centerboard Schooner "Virginia" 1879 Smithsonian Plan # HAMMS 8-23  10 sheets (4 17x22, 6 17x35) 3/8" scale.  Printed on heavy paper.  $50

 

She who must be obeyed has pointed out many times that I have so many kits and sets of plans that I will be well into my second century by time I finish them all.  Finally had to admit she is right.  Over time I will be posting several kits and plan sets for sale.
I think I have set prices at a reasonable level but offers will be considered.  Trades might be possible but I would really rather sell everything.  Prices do not included shipping.  If you don't see what you are looking for let me know and I will see what I have in that stash.
Kits:  All kits are 100% complete and in excellent condition
3.  Panart Lynx  $160

 
Plan Sets:
1. Sidewheel Steamer "James M. Donahue" 1875 Smithsonian plan # 16-41.  13 sheets (3 17x22, 10 17x35)  1/8" scale.  Printed on heavy paper.   $65 ($130 from Smithsonian)
2. Tern Schooner "William Bisbee"  1902 Smithsonian Plan # HAMMS 8-62.  3 sheets (1 17x22, 3 17x35)  3/16" scale.  Printed on heavy paper.  $15

3. Centerboard Schooner "Virginia" 1879 Smithsonian Plan # HAMMS 8-23  10 sheets (4 17x22, 6 17x35) 3/8" scale.  Printed on heavy paper.  $50

 

She who must be obeyed has pointed out many times that I have so many kits and sets of plans that I will be well into my second century by time I finish them all.  Finally had to admit she is right.  Over time I will be posting several kits and plan sets for sale.
I think I have set prices at a reasonable level but offers will be considered.  Trades might be possible but I would really rather sell everything.  Prices do not included shipping.  If you don't see what you are looking for let me know and I will see what I have in that stash.
Kits:  All kits are 100% complete and in excellent condition
3.  Panart Lynx  $160

 
Plan Sets:
1. Sidewheel Steamer "James M. Donahue" 1875 Smithsonian plan # 16-41.  13 sheets (3 17x22, 10 17x35)  1/8" scale.  Printed on heavy paper.   $65 ($130 from Smithsonian)
2. Tern Schooner "William Bisbee"  1902 Smithsonian Plan # HAMMS 8-62.  3 sheets (1 17x22, 3 17x35)  3/16" scale.  Printed on heavy paper.  $15

3. Centerboard Schooner "Virginia" 1879 Smithsonian Plan # HAMMS 8-23  10 sheets (4 17x22, 6 17x35) 3/8" scale.  Printed on heavy paper.  $50

 

I believe the Dallas kit is based on the standard 51ton revenue cutter design.  Howard Chapelle shows this design in one of this books.

We had a question the other day about that site being blocked from a member in the UK.   It was working here in the States but not from the UK.   They may very well be "open" but the restrictions by not just governments, but companies like credit cards may block any transfer of funds. The situation is still developing and more sanctions may be coming. 

Hello JayBee, I am myself a long time and could say an experienced modeler. Styrene and resin ships (some of them heavily modified). Airplanes and the occasional armored vehicle (WWI tanks with interior), figurines mostly medieval and Napoleonic. But wooden ship models is a new ball game and I started last year myself. I would recommend something simple to start with good instructions. Myself I started with a Vanguard fishing boat, it allowed me to practice on planking (double planking), painting wood, "easy" rigging, finding out the different tools that I need, and a lot of posted material of modelers who build the same model with good advices. Indeed I was interested by such ship as the Bounty or Endeavor but resisted the temptation and I do not regret my choice.

Here's what I use.  I've made up probably 20 or more of them.  The jaws grasp the bulkhead or frame.  The notched end slide over the plank to press it in place.   I don't have a photo of it in use....   
 
These are simply a wooden clothes pin (or peg to those east of the big pond).   The wood pieces are removed, cut, and then installed back on the metal spring flipped 180 degrees.  I do usually, line the gripper end (on the right) with some sandpaper so it doesn't slip off the bulkhead or frame.
 

I didn't mean to jump into this build so quickly after finishing my Endurance, but today was one of those dismal grey days on which it's nice to slip into the basement and sit at my worktable. The kit arrived a few months ago, so I had already unpacked and inspected everything. But it was good to come back and check everything again while I got myself sorted and organized.
 
Billing's description states: "A flat-bottomed boat from Provence. Vessels of this type were commonly used along the Rhone River for transporting building timber, tiles from Arles and fodder. The runs were eventually extended to include the southern coasts of France. The boats disappeared, however, as railway transport became widespread." This is a bit too simple for a historian like me, so I've been doing some preparatory research. The kit is of a fictional boat based on the tartanes and allèges that ran freight on the lower Rhone River, then along the coast in both directions as far as Sète in the west and Toulon in the east. (Coincidentally, two of my favorite places in France are Montpellier and Hyères, which are very close to Sète and Toulon, respectively.) The "allège d'Arles" is a celebrated boat in the Bouches-du-Rhône, particularly noted for hauling local tiles from Arles. While Billing comments that these ships were superseded by railway transport, steam-powered barges were the more direct culprit for the decline of these ships. However, the tartanes and allèges were part of a centuries-long development of sail-powered freight ships designed for the specific challenges of the Rhone River. Their flat bottoms, in particular, were essential for navigating through the shallow stretches of the river.
 
Here are a few images that I'm using for inspiration. The first is entitled "Allège en chargeant dans le port de Toulon" (Allège loading cargo in the port of Toulon). The second is a woodcut by Jean-Jérôme Baugéan and the title translates to "An allège from Arles descending the Rhone River." The third is a much earlier woodcut by Pierre-Jacob Gueroult du Pas entitled "Allège d'Arles, pour le transport de bois" (Allège from Arles, for transporting wood). Finally, there are two paintings by Antoine Roux of allèges d'Arles.
 
 
 
The kit comes with the usual variety of planks and plywood. The three thicker pieces of plywood seem to be of decent quality, though the laser-cutting left a lot of marks on the backside. The thinner piece (lower right with the main deck piece dominating) looks like single-ply plywood; it's very thin and badly warped. I have it sitting between two boxes in hops that it will flatten out. If not, maybe an iron on low heat will help? In addition to dowels, the planks are made of poplar and obeche. There's also a roll of sailcloth, which means I'll be making my own sails for the first time.
 

 
The instructions—available for free on Billing's site, which I appreciated when I was trying to decide what to build next—are what I've come to expect from most kits. The text instructions are very limited and assume prior experience building model ships (a note to any raw beginners: don't be scared off; MSW provides a great knowledge base for figuring out what the instructions aren't telling you!). The photos in the instructions are in black-and-white and of just okay quality. The diagrams are a single large sheet, accompanied by a single sheet with templates for the sails. Per my usual approach, I've hung the plans on the wall above my worktable.
 

 
In addition to the wood and sailcloth, there's a small plastic package with rigging thread, hardware, a ribbon (for a pennant on the mast), and the lifeboat. The rigging thread seems to be in three diameters, though I'll need to take a closer look to be sure; it's also much better quality and more rope-like than I've worked with on any of my prior kits. The lifeboat is plastic and comes in two pieces; I do not plan to use it. The hardware looks like it's all decent quality and is definitely usable.
 

 
In addition, you'll notice I picked up four dozen barrels from ModelExpo/Model Shipways. My plans for the kit are:
 
This kit is primarily about improving my skills. I'm particularly looking to get better at planking both the hull and the deck. I'm hoping to go without paint for the first time. I'm hoping that the wood will look good enough that I just need satin varnish, though I'm also fine with using wood stains if I need. After my experience with the Endurance, I'll probably do a little bit of kitbashing and upgrading. For example, I'm going to build this as a fully loaded freight vessel, hauling a load of wine. (Coincidentally, a couple years ago, I gave my wife an artistic map of the Rhone Valley wine regions, along with some sample bottles...there's definitely some inspiration there.) Rather than placing the lifeboat and its cradles over the cargo hatch, I'll leave it open and fill the hold with the wine barrels.  This will also mean planking the lower deck. My goal is something that looks a bit like the first Roux painting above...though I'm not sure yet if I'm ambitious enough to add the other two masts from the painting.  
I notice that Ben87 started a buildlog for this kit last year and that RDDP mentioned they are working on this, too. Hopefully, we'll have a nice little community as we work on this together!
 
Next steps: prepare and assemble the spine, flat bottom, and keel pieces.

Hi Everyone,
 
as this is my very first build, please have patience with me if I do something wrong, and point it out such that I will not make that mistake again! As for the era of the ship, I bought this model because I liked the style of the ship, I loved sailing on a flat bottom ship before, so I have a preference. But the model kit does not tell me anything about the era in which it belongs. I did some research but could not find any information on it besided the model page written up by Billing Boats. The description tell me that these ships whre decomissioned when rail transport was introducted in france, therefor I chose this era to put the buildlog into.
 
After opening the box and reading the instructions (which isn't all that much or elaborate), I really wanted to get started.
 

 
Examaning the box content:

 
Everything seems to be present, looking at all the parts it looks doable for a beginner, so far I'm happy with my choice. The only thing that is annoying me a bit is the fact that you by a wooden scale model kit which has a lifeboat on its deck, but they provide you with a plastic injection mold replicate of that lifeboat... That one may have to go and might get replace with a home made version out of wood.
 
I wanted to make the build easy on myself so before I started putting anything together with glue I had to improvise a way to make sure the Keel and Bottomplate would be put together straight on a small scale (for normal woodworking I have special clamps for this). But some childhood goodies helped me out here. Lego is one of the few small things I have lying around that I am sure of that the angles on it are as close to 90 degrees and you can get.

 
The Keel requires (you cannot see this on the image) a small strip of wood at the bottom to make it complete. Clamping it all together firmly to allow the glue to set properly.

 
Lets let that set properly and continue onwards tomorrow!
 
If you have any tips and or tricks, let me know!
 
Kinds regards,
Ben

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