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DanielD

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  1. More progress today. Finished the tedious riveting project and was able to get the hull painted black.
  2. Thanks for all the support! Here is the starboard side, all rivets finished. Now to do the port side. I think I’m seeing crosseyed.
  3. Keith, I am also looking for a flywheel for the pump on the Terror. I’ve found one, but I’m not happy with it as the spokes are straight. I would love to find one with curved spokes like on your model. Do you know the manufacture and/or part number for the one you found? Or a website...
  4. Update: the rivet project is progressing, slowly... to protect the rivets already placed, I have to add a light layer of primer to “seal” the rivets in place, then add more and more and more rivets.
  5. For the rivets I’m stealing a technique from the model railroad playbook, using 3D printed rivets on a decal. When I place them on the plates and then paint over them, the effect is very nice (in my opinion). Here are some rivets I have just installed and some I did a few days ago that have been primed for black paint. I will admit, the process is tedious.
  6. Keith, you are very observant! I guess a couple of pictures as well as an explanation is in order. I built the chock channels temporarily “removable.” This is only my second wood ship and I’m still working on my skills, painting being one of them. My goal with these chocks is to be able to paint clean lines between the white of the chocks and the black of the hull. I’m sure you have already figured out that white is particularly hard to paint and cover well, needing several coats, at least for me. As such I have not yet permanently attached the chocks to the hull. When I built them, I placed parchment paper between the hull and the new construction, which allowed me to easily form the curves against the hull as well as remove them for shaping, sanding and painting. During construction I drilled alignment holes which I then installed dowels in the chocks so that they align every time in perfect place when installed on the hull. I will eventually permanently glue down the chocks, not too distant in the future, just as soon as I have the hull painted. Below, the chocks sitting without the hull; the hull primed and ready to install the rivets on the armor plates with the chocks installed; and a close up with the effect I’m looking for, clean paint line between the hull and the chocks.
  7. Finally finished the installing the plating. A little more cleanup and some primer before starting the rivet project...
  8. Well, here is what I found about the cannons on the HMS Erebus and likely on the HMS Terror. A brass 6-pounder cannon from the wreck of the HMS Erebus. Image: Parks Canada (see image below) We know that the Terror and the Erebus were similarly fitted, so I will go with a set of 6 pound 1:75 scale cannons, if I can find them for the period. I admittedly know nothing about cannons, so any help or ideas (from anyone) on period cannons and the base they rest on would be much appreciated.
  9. This is a very good question and I admit that I don’t know the answer. I’ll do some more research and see what I can find.
  10. Well, today didn’t go as planned. I got side tracked with one project, then another, and before I knew it, I was painting the starboard chocks (ice bumper). I’m happy with the results so far.
  11. Starboard side plating almost finished. I hope to get the other side done today.
  12. Keith, why Humbrol Matt 63 Sand? Was it common in the mid 1800's? I'm sure I can come up with something very close with the paint that I have, just curious if this was common at the time.
  13. Additionally, I found this on Matthew Betts build log regarding the color of paint on the inner bulwark. Woolwich Yard, 17 April 1852. Sir, With reference to their Lordships' letter of this day's date, we beg to acquaint you, that Sir John Franklin's ships, the " Erebus " and " Terror," were painted when they sailed, black on the outside, and weather works inside yellow. And followed up with this discussion: Lang’s choice of words in the first correspondence appears to be the source of the enduring discrepancy regarding the ships’ paint schemes. It seems Gould, followed by Cyriax, and then myriad others, interpreted the phrase “weather works inside yellow” to mean a band of yellow on the outside hull of the vessel. Indeed, the “weather works”, or upper works of a ship, are those areas of the vessel above the waterline exposed to the weather, including the upper hull and bulwarks both inside towards the deck and outside on the hull. However, Lang specifically states that the “weather works inside “ were yellow, meaning that the inside bulwarks were painted yellow. He makes no mention of a stripe on the outside hull, although a solid paint scheme without a stripe would have been unusual for a Royal Navy vessel of the era. Thankfully, a watercolour painting by Owen Stanley, who accompanied the ships across the North Atlantic to Greenland in 1845, provides important primary evidence which dispels much ambiguity (see below). The painting shows conclusively that the Terror and Erebus had black hulls with a white stripe along the outside weather works. The painting indicates that the white stripe was contiguous with the chock channel and that it ascended the outside stern frame of the Erebus at an angle. Another watercolour, which may also be the work of Stanley (it is clearly based on his 1845 drawing), confirms these characteristics, and also shows the yellow painting on the inside bulwarks (note also the very rusted condition of the iron bow plating). This image also suggests that the white stripe extended forward around the knee of the ship. Well, I’m not sure what to think about this. At the moment I’m thinking of using a yellow wash on the inside of the bulwarks, not to make it bright yellow, but to give a hint of yellow but allow the details of the wood grain show through.
  14. Yesterday I came across more Terror information that is new to me. Below are two images, some HMS Terror plans (as fitted 1845) with two cannons at the bow. The image of the wreck is from the HMS Erebus clearly showing two cannons and we know that the two ships were similarly fitted. Lastly I found an Inuit record from the area and around the time the two ships were stuck in ice, in which the sounds of cannons were heard, which at the time was a form of communication between the two ships. I guess I have some cannons to find...
  15. Today I started the metal plating at the bow. Quite the chore making each plate fit.
  16. Today I installed the keel with some modifications. Added some metal plates including rivets to hide the seams of the keel. The rivets are 3D and should show up nicely when I paint the hull black.
  17. Started working on the ice bumpers. Still have some more finish work to do, but getting close.
  18. In the shop today, I took some liberty with the model which I believe makes it more like the real ship. I used the scraps from the second planking, turning them into 60mm length planks, and used them to line the (inside) bulwark. The appearance of horizontal planking can be seen in Matthew Betts model and the original plans for the ship show inside planking on the lower decks. It makes sense to me that the weather deck would look the same.
  19. Well a good day in the shipyard. Finished the stern with the second planking. The hardest job done (in my opinion).
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