Mirabell61

Stunning work Piet !
 
that approach bow-view with wake, smoke is fantastic ! well done.....
 
Nils

Hi Antony,
 
thats a beautiful project, and a very interesting boat, that gondola, with asymmetrical build halves, can imagine its quite a challenge to get this modeled in scale...., but am sure you`re going to nail it....
All the best and good luck with the start on your yard...
 
Nils

Good news Greenstone, !
 
please post an announcement in the forum, when the yawl (in 1:48) is ready for purchasing in Europe, Thanks...
 
Nils

Cheers OC and Dave
How time flies, I see it has been over a month since I last  attended to Cheerful.
Post 27 (27/05/2018)
The mysteries of the Square Tuck
This involves some intricate framing below the counter, and a job I approached with some apprehension. This may have contributed to my lack of eagerness to return to the workshop.
I basically followed Chuck's instructions but I used some 3mm thick boxwood to form the frames.
Fitting the centre strip and the upper sections along the counter edge is the easier bit; the testy part is the shaped frame that follows the line of the hull and butts against the other two strips.
Having glued the first sections in place my approach was to form a template part out of card to form the basic shape before committing to the real stuff.

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Several tweaks of the card template were made before I committed the pattern to a 1.5mm thick piece of boxwood.
The pattern was then transferred to the 3mm stuff.

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For the planking inside the frames I decided to infill with a piece of 1.5mm Boxwood sheet before planking so that I could use 3/64" thick strip rather than 1/8" stuff.
As suggested by Chuck the pieces were temporarily glued to the hull for final shaping of the outer edges; the inner edges were then reduced to the 1/8th width before gluing  finally to the hull.

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Not quite sure why but my version took six planks of 3/64" x 7/32" Boxwood strip. rather than 5 planks of 3/16" to fill the void.
I suspect that the aftermost bulkheads were perhaps not faired down sufficiently to reduce the Square Tuck area.
I decided to carry on to completion to see how the overall effect suited my eye.
 
It didn't suit my eye  so off came the lower frames and planking, but I baulked at removing the hull planking to re-visit the aftermost bulkhead.
 
The revised arrangement still took six planks for the infill, the difference being the size of the outer segment between the 3/16th and 7/32" width planks.

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Having trialled both I opted for the (6) 3/16" planks with a slightly larger outer segment.

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This is in a fairly raw state prior to cleaning up.

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Not exactly matching Chuck's exemplary version and I cannot say I'm elated with my Square Tuck effort.
 
As Mr Spock might say, It's a Square Tuck Jim, but not as we know it  
 
At this point I will also add the Stern Post as I prefer to work the  lower planking to it rather than add it afterwards. That said the Stern Post will need some tweaking to get a tight fit from keel to counter.
 
Still we press on.
 
B.E.
04/06/2018
 
 
 
 

Thanks so much for the (overly) kind words and for hitting the like button.
 
Jim: Thanks for the encouragement. I am intrigued by the picture of your yellow cedar deck. Where can I find your beautiful model?
 
Antony: Thank you. I have come up with a pretty reliable approach to removing planks by first treating the area with rubbing alcohol and then heating up the area with a heat gun (after the fumes have cleared!). The planks come off with ease. And clean up is easier too.
 
Much appreciated Joe. I found your Atlantis restoration project the other day. Wow is all I can say!
 
Thanks so much for following Niles. Love your work!
 
Regards,
Ian

Beautiful build Ian,
 
the planking looks superb....
 
Nils

Stunning work Piet !
 
that approach bow-view with wake, smoke is fantastic ! well done.....
 
Nils

Stunning work Piet !
 
that approach bow-view with wake, smoke is fantastic ! well done.....
 
Nils

Hi Antony,
 
thats a beautiful project, and a very interesting boat, that gondola, with asymmetrical build halves, can imagine its quite a challenge to get this modeled in scale...., but am sure you`re going to nail it....
All the best and good luck with the start on your yard...
 
Nils

Stunning work Piet !
 
that approach bow-view with wake, smoke is fantastic ! well done.....
 
Nils

Hi Antony,
 
thats a beautiful project, and a very interesting boat, that gondola, with asymmetrical build halves, can imagine its quite a challenge to get this modeled in scale...., but am sure you`re going to nail it....
All the best and good luck with the start on your yard...
 
Nils

wonderful work Piet,
 
I know its not easy to model gunsmoke and ships wake, but here you have brought fine action into the scene, well done !
 
Nils

Stunning work Piet !
 
that approach bow-view with wake, smoke is fantastic ! well done.....
 
Nils

Well, finally, a very small update.  What with rush trips overseas to visit ailing relatives; the world going crazy at home and all sorts of extraneous happenings at the museum, I've hardly touched the Meteor of late.  I have, however, managed to get a few more frames fitted, so here she is as of this week.  
 
As I have some medical procedure scheduled for next week, it may be awhile before the next update, but never mind - she'll get there eventually!
 
John
 
 

Holy smokes! (No pun intended) That looks really great- reminds me of the famous picture looking down on the USS Iowa firing a broadside. I agree with your wife- very life like. Nice work!

Hello Everyone, and thanks for visiting Carl and Greg and your very kind comments.  Also my thanks to all who clicked the like button.
 
I know, it's kinda late for me to be posting a progress report but I just showed Gwen the pics I made this morning. I tweaked some more and mixed some red and yellow paint to put inside the smoke clouds - thanks to Jud's comment.  Gwen really liked the results, even when looking at the model from all angles.  Her reaction was "life like, like it's real."  Coming from her, Mrs. critical observer, is a real compliment.
I haven't glued the smoke to their supports yet so pending on a thumbs up from all of youns I can finally proceed in gluing then down so I can complete with sculpting the smoke a little better. Right now that's practically impossible because they rotate and tend to droop.
This sure was a long and trying process I must say but in the end it didn't come out too shabby.  I also added a few more vertical water spouts on the missed 8 inch shell bursts and the dye.
 
The sea was an experiment for me, never done one before.  I read a lot about the how to's but in the end I went with what was available in the local HobbyLoggy. The material for the waves didn't really satisfy my that much.  I didn't do what the instructions promised it is expected to do but in the end, only thanks to a rater calm sea, it worked out okay. 
In retrospect, I should have used some very thin plastic, like the stuff used in packaging LED lamps, for the bow wave as support. This would have saved me a lot of trouble in trying to make them thin enough and not to droop.  However, they came out okay in the long run.
I may do some more tweaking here and there like adding some more very light green in areas where the sea becomes transparent, but that'll be for later, if at all.
 
This coming week I plan to call a plastics place, www.eplastics.com for material to build the enclosure.  I may also ask them for a price for the O19 enclosure. I may have mentioned on my O19 build log that I planned to make it with a rounded top rather then square.  
 
Okay, here is "Jave" as of this morning.

 

 

 

 
 

 
Cheers,
 
 

Hi.
Thanks for the well wishes.
I have been informed that the plans from http://www.veniceboats.com/eng-models-gondolas.htm
And http://www.veniceboats.com/eng-designs-boats-gondola.htm
They are of good quality and I will not be  disappointed.  So I will be ordering a set today.
There is also a copyright issue with the download photos.
I will remove the drawings after I receve the purchased plans.
 
Regards Antony.

Hi.
This is a build with a big difference. The boat is NOT symmetrical.
 
http://myrarobinson.info/venice/ten-things-you-never-knew-about-gondolas  Text below from this web page.
Gondolas are asymmetrical. If you stand in front and look down the length of the boat, you’ll see that there’s a distinct curve. This is to allow for the weight and balance of a single oarsman standing at the back, helping to make it more manoeuvrable. The boat is 11 metres long, and often has to be helped around corners by the gondolier putting his foot against the wall of a building to push. “Traffic jams” are not uncommon on some of the narrower secondary canals.
More info on Wiki.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gondola
The picture bellow is from https://www.luxrest-venice.com/en/blog/201610/venetian_gondola_meaning_its_iron_prow

 
There are places to purchase plans from.. But I have not had much luck with purchasing plans online.. So have found some very poor drawings and will take it from there..
The Model is to be approx. 1 meter in length and the main timber will be Cherry. I will be using other woods ad decoration as I have no intention of painting the Gondola.
I have started making my own drawings in Illustrator and its a nightmare with no centrelines and bulwarks are all different heights and shapes.
Will post my drawings here in Pdf format when I get on my main PC.
There are a few area's that I cannot figure out at the moment. Like the hole next to  where the gondolier stands. its use or purpose.
 
 
Thanks for looking in.
Regards Antony.
 
EDIT: DRAWING REMOVED TO PROTECT COPYRIGHT - ADMIN

Beautiful build Ian,
 
the planking looks superb....
 
Nils

Hi Peter

While building my Pickle one of the alterations I made to the kit was changing the copper plates. I used those from Amati which are designed to put on overlapping as it should be according to different sources. Those from Caldercraft have - in my opinion - much too prominent nail heads giving the hull an rather badly shaved appearance. I think the nail heads had to be rather flat to reduce water resistance.

Your Pickle looks fine. Have fun!

Peter

Decking
1.       I used Alaskan yellow cedar for the deck. I’d also used it for the deck on my Brazzera. It is perfect for this application.
2.      Decking layout. I would do it slightly different next time. I would let some of the bow planks close to the center plank taper so that I could end up with all of the planks except the center plank being the same width at the bow. I could have been more careful to achieve the same objective at the stern as well.
This is where I am at today. It may be a few weeks before I have any updates. I hope these are of some interest and value to those starting out. 
Best Regards,
Ian

Although I also used spacers between between the frames, I would suggest that it is a lot easier to simply cut equal length pieces of scrap and put them between the frames. Key in doing this is 1) keep the hull in the building board when inserting the spacers as this will prevent twisting and 2) make sure the port and starboard spacers are exactly the same length.  Although you are attempting to show this build with a minimum of tools, this could easily be done with a cheap hand hobby saw and a sanding block.  The advantage of spacers over running a spile along the side of the hull is that I could fair the hull more easily.  The pictures below show the hull in the building jig after it had been faired.  The spacers are placed medial to the laser cuts for the ribs to prevent any damage to them when they were eventually removed.
 
  
 
After the hull was faired, a temporary spile was placed aft to stabilize the transom as the rest of the hull was planked.  As you and I have discussed off-line, my planking was done prototypical, and not per the kit instructions.  
 

 
 

stunning work in card Dan....
 
Nils

Hi Thanasis,
 
thanks for your kind words, and your compliment, they are much appreciated....
 
you are very welcome in visiting the chebec build log, and your own models I like very much, are so well built and representing the beautiful Greek boats of the Aegaeis and its typical islands vessels. I consider those model vessels as top notch. I just took a dive into the boat builds of your gallery, as well as your personal web site, to bring them and your skills back to mind.
I shall be very pleased if the one or other details of my work could be of inspiring nature for fellow builders
 
Nils

Hi Thanasis,
 
thanks for your kind words, and your compliment, they are much appreciated....
 
you are very welcome in visiting the chebec build log, and your own models I like very much, are so well built and representing the beautiful Greek boats of the Aegaeis and its typical islands vessels. I consider those model vessels as top notch. I just took a dive into the boat builds of your gallery, as well as your personal web site, to bring them and your skills back to mind.
I shall be very pleased if the one or other details of my work could be of inspiring nature for fellow builders
 
Nils