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Thank you for searching that out for me Allan. As they say here in the uk . There are many ways to skin a cat. No idea where that saying came from and not very suitable these days . I am truely amazed at how many different ways the period ships are put together. I just wish I were 50 years younger when I started this hobby, so as to give me enough time to learn it all. Best regards Dave
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After fitting the new position of the Naval hoods and the holes drilled through there is now sufficient room for the anchor ropes. Anchor lines also fitted and painted.
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Sorry I did not catch this earlier as it did not flag up for some reason. Thank you again for searching this out for me. Am I correct in thinking this would be a plank on frame model and this wale would be fitted before the planking was fitted? Great close up diagrams are always the best! I think.Best regards Dave
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Just realized I think O have made my first major mistake or perhaps not myself. Looking at the two hawse plates just which I have lined up just under the upper wale. Fortunately as yet I have not drilled the holes out yet. I have checked other blogs and they too have had the same problem and have fiited the naval hoods higher up than what is on the drawing.so I will need to do the same and cut away the upper wale. I am kicking my self for not noticing this earlier as a few people have documented the problem with this build. Hopefully I can sort this without any damage to the hull when removing naval. hoods. After removing the naval hoods and a section of wale you can see from the new position of the pins through the hawse holes that there should be enough clearance for the anchor rope to clear the deck.
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Great look there Lyle and and interesting formula. Keep up the excelent work and I look forward to your progress. Well done! perhaps one day I will try a bit more of a weathered look. I definately like yours.
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Fitted Rudder pintles and bushes which I found very fiddly.Then I fitted the rudder straps first then temporarily secured the rudder with tape whilst gluing and pinning the longer rudder staps to the hull. Glued Quarter badges using CA glue after paining behind the windows mat black .Started focusing on the anchor linings part no 122 which did not fit. I therefore decided to make new ones with 5mm x 1.5mm Lime strips as can be seen below using double sided tape and extending the strips to enlarge the anchor linings and then shaping them. It will also be necessary to bend the 1.5 mm strips to suit the shape of the hull. Hope this works out ok.
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Thank you to every one with some very good answers . I am still in two minds with this and will make an attempt at making some letters in the hope they would be good enough to mount on the stern counter /transom. Best regards Dave
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I have noticed that quite a few models in the 1700 have their name across the Transom and wonder if this is accurate for this period or is it just something which modelers like to do . I suppose this gives instant recognition but then again so would mounting a plaque somewhere on the stand or on the glass case itself. What are peoples views on this and what do people prefer. Best regards Dave
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Started adding some decoration to the stern quarter and stern facia and adding the larger of the 3 hinges to the gun port lids which were previously fitted to the hull. There are still a number of lids to fit to the hull ( In the closed position) but I found it difficult to accurately position these on the hull ( Its an age related thing) so will probably glue these in position away from the model which I hope I will find easier. The metal decorations were glued using appoxy resin but the hinges were glued on using CA. I almost forgot. I removed the stand as the ship was not sitting level athwartships so decided to build another slipway /drydock which keeps the ship level. This is mainly for when I begin to fit the channels in the hope I can keep these in line with the water level rather than 90 degs to the hull. I am not 100% sure if this is correct but heard it mentioned somewhere.I think it will help with other parts of the build.
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Thank you Derek for explaining that to me and I think for my next model I will keep a few wider planks in stock . What are we looking at .Double the width? Cheers Dave
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I didn't know dropped planks were a mistake Ha ha. I thought that was part of the normal process. However I didn't drop any on the Endeavour which was more good luck than anything. However there were a few steallers at the stern if that counts as mistakes. Sorry to take your blog off track.Thanks for the ebay link. Best regards Dave
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That is some fantastic planking there Derek and each plank must sit exactly right, especially at the ends of each plank to lie flat with the next one.I always find that very difficult and therefore fit the planks in one complete length. In the past I have used the planking fan but instead of strips have just used a vernier caliper but I am now on the look out for a pair of dividers. I only seem to see them in with complete drawing kits. Hopefully some time in the future I will be able to plank half as good as yourself. Keep up great work and I look forward to watching this build. Best regards Dave
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Tried the above method for blackening and for some reason it didnot work so well. I attempted to have another go but it was in the blackening solution much longer that expected. Yet once again after polishing there was on or two areas of brass showing through,so decided to wire brush the parts and then acetone before pickling and this time after only a few seconds in the blackening solution it was evedent the process worked better. After polishing on this occation it was 100% imrovement.
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HMS Bounty by Gct86 - Amati
DaveBaxt replied to Gct86's topic in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1751 - 1800
I think you have the idea ,however follow the curve of the deck with the blocks at the top and continue to follow the line using a spare plank. I f I were to do it again I think I would either fit blocks just forward of when the planks first start to bend or fit another bulkhead I always find when there is a hollow in the planks in this area and therefore I ended up having to use some filler,I don,t think the 1.5 mm x 6 mm walnut planks helped. I ended up soaking them overnight to make sure they would bend ok. I tried to follow Chucks method of edge bending the planks which also helped and tapered each plank. You can find Chucks method here on this forum.Hope this helps .Best regards Dave -
Great Idea . Another one to keep . Thank you.
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Started preparing the various cast metal parts with cleaning then white primer using spray can then acrylic yellow orce and white for the brass windows . I have also blackened the brackets for the rudder with the help of the following thread which produced much better results than previous attempts at blackening.
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HMS Bounty by Gct86 - Amati
DaveBaxt replied to Gct86's topic in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1751 - 1800
They are not my Videos .A different Dave. -
Before starting on the paint job I removed another 1 mm from the pedestals so the keel would fit into the slots. I used my Proxxon milling machine for the very first time and found it so easy to us. A And here is the paint job so far together with the pedestal stand. There is still need to make a few touches here and there on the transom as I found it very difficult to achieve the straight lines even when using 6mm and 10 mm modelers masking tape. I must apologize for the quality of light in the photos ,unfortunately the blue on the transome looks black the same as the mainwale/rubbing strake.
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HMS Bounty by Gct86 - Amati
DaveBaxt replied to Gct86's topic in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1751 - 1800
If I can remember the difference between the sizes 5mm and 4 mm is the second planking 2 x 0.5 mm. If you follow the videos above this is how I solved the problem by planking either side of the keel with 0.5mm second planking. Also I think you need to check that the holes in the deck,as they do not line up with the bulkheads . This is also mentioned in the videos. L also mentioned it in my blog of this build . However this may not be the case with your kit. Although the videos are innaccurate build for that period ( mainly the rigging) I found it very helpful and was the main reason I choose this build (Amati) over other manufacturers, was because of the 16 videos.There is lots of help from guys on here so you should be covered if needs arise Hope this helps and good luck.Best regards Dave -
Decking completed
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HMS Bounty by Gct86 - Amati
DaveBaxt replied to Gct86's topic in - Kit build logs for subjects built from 1751 - 1800
Don,t be I managed to build it and it was my first period ship I built. There are a few blogs out there of this one which have been completed. There is also a few videos out there to help you along but I found out were inaccurate in quite a few ways but a big help to me personally . Good luck with the build and hope you achieve your goals. Best regards Dave -
After deciding the length of planks 100mm I then decided on a 4 plank pattern and marked off the deck in 25mm sections and lay the first plank as No 4 with a pattern of 13241324 etc etc. then either side of 4 would be 2 and 1 and then outside of these would be 3 and 3 so on so on.I have one or two models of the Endeavour whereby the planks were continuous along the length of the deck which I thought would be ok on the fore and midship section but to long on the aft section . I thought for the size of the model and a scale of 1 64 the 100mm lengths would be 6.4 mtrs which thought would be long enough.. Here is the work after today. Using my Proxxon FET table saw made short work of the many 100mm lengths required but not so quick marking the edges with a marker pen.
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I think it is terrific how you manage to get the curve on the bow so perfect without the use of blocks, especially after the initial curve. I am assuming this is due to extra frames in that area together with good fairing practices and of coarse the added skill and experiances. Please correct me if I am wrong in any way. I always seem to get a bit of a dip in my planking in this area and end up having to fill in a bit. I used blocks in the bow and stern but still wish I had added a few more just forward of the initial Bend. Keep up the good work Mark and I look forward to watching your progress and learning so much. Thank you.
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Thank you for your reply, it is much appreciated. The cutting away of the wale to then fit the channel to hull is how I did my last ship but everything I have read since said to firt bolts/brass rods to ensure that it was strong enough. I did not have any issues with doing it my prefered way . However there is always a chance that it might occur in the future. Perhaps Caldercraft are suggesting that the channels to be fitted under the wales to increase the strength but I was trying to be as accurate as possible. They also recomend that they are pinned in place. Best regards Dave
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Thank you for your reply and forgive my ignorance but I don,t think I understand your meaning, My thoughts are that I would agree that the fitting of a channel would not help to strengthen the construction however I do wonder whether or not the channel itself would be weakened by drilling a hole right through the edge for the fitting of a brass rod or bolt and can the strength of the channel in terms of baring the tension of the shrouds be achieved by glueing alone. Sorry if I have the wrong end of the stick and if I have I would I be grateful if you could further explain to me your meaning. Best regards Dave
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