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Canute reacted to a post in a topic: USS Constitution by Glen McGuire - BlueJacket Bicentennial Edition - 1/96 - Repair and Completion of Construction
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We used to finish off the tails of the tackle this way when I was in the grey funnel line; a few half hitches around all parts of the falls then simply wrap the remainder. As also suggested, another way was to seize the working part back onto the other parts as shown in this photo I took of the stays in SS Great Britain. cheers Pat
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Thanks John, I agree - robands and not laced. WRT to these lines I am starting to believe these were entry errors (misnamed) as no leech lines were listed in the Rigging Warrant, but they are clearly evident in most of the lithography (which has proven remarkably accurate). The names start with a 'L" which is no real indicator These lines are listed immediately after the bunt lines (and whips) and before the slab lines, I am seriously starting to think that these will have been the leech lines. cheers Pat
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Hi all, I am seeking information on some of the sail control lines listed against the fore main course in the Rigging Warrant for HMCSS Victoria (1855) - Barque Rigged. Along with the usual Bunt (+ bunt whips), leech lines and slab lines, there is a listing for 'Lace Lines' (fore course) - 17 fathoms of 1.75" hemp rope with 4 x 5" blocks (assumed to be two per each side of the sail), and 'Lead Lines' (main course) - 19 fathoms of 2" hemp rope with 4 x 5" blocks (assumed to be two per each side of the sail). As these are listed with the other sail control lines I am assuming they are also control lines. I am also assuming that the lines could be called one or the other (i.e. the same line but with different names). I have looked high and low in all the usual rigging books (Lees, Harland, Kipping, Fincham, Nares, Luce etc) with no joy. One thought was that perhaps these were spilling lines but the presence of the blocks sort of precludes this option? Can an anyone shed any light on the purpose and rigging of these lines? Many thanks Pat
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Another interesting subject you are undertaking Greg; look forward to seeing this come along. cheers Pat
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Paul, I think we should give a little more credence to people working with official records/documents to accurately reflect the intention/content. I take your point that sometimes errors were made, but I think on the whole people working in these institutions try to reflect the content fairly accurately when summarising them. I am certainly finding that with our Records Offices here in Australia (and in NZ). Like Bruce, I have rarely had to address any inaccuracies, but the staff were more than helpful and keen to update the online descriptions when I have raised something. I too am guilty of not trusting many statements on record without seeing them myself; that is where I run into some issues as many people state or quote information with inadequate citation. From a pure personal (selfish) interest, I would love to get access to Hotham's private correspondence which was returned to the UK , but is now available (not digitised) through some library/Uni over there. I have the location but not the means unfortunately As I said my comment is an excerpt from a LETTER from the Build Superintendent (Commander Lockyer RN - an experienced former CO of HMS Medea -on the China Station) to the Governor of Victoria (Captain, Sir Charles Hotham, RN, KCB - a well credentialled Naval Officer of some repute who took a very active interest in Victoria's build and design) - I think that based on Lockyer's comments/first-hand (eyes-on) observation of the vessel as she was built, that it can be taken as an accurate description. That said though, his language is a little ambiguous in that it infers rather than states that the false keel was not coppered. However, he clearly states that the keel was coppered over before the false keel was put on. I attach a copy of the first and relevant page of that letter (see first paragraph of the latter). I am making the assumption that as Lockyer was very particular in pointing things that were done, that the absence of a statement along the lines that "the false keel has been coppered" infers that it wasn't - he was careful to say the underside of the keel had been coppered. These letters, along with an equal number of personal notes from Lockyer to Hotham) were a regular report from Lockyer to Hotham almost on a weekly basis at times). I hope this helps to satisfy your curiosity a little? cheers Pat
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