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Thanks for the pics of the late Mr Maltsev model. Very impressive. The Russian 'Modelsworld'.......Firefox doesn't seem to have a translation function. The site does have a Union flag 'button', but provides no English text.
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HMS Endeavour's Longboat Rigging
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Thank you for that, John. As I stated, the bottle was unopened by me. Perhaps the stuff was low grade rubbish.
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And in the dark at stable temperature. I assume the active ingredient in suspension 'condensed' into the black flecks. Any Chemists out there?
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Hi Alen. Liver of sulfur DOES have a shelf life. I bought some, it was light pink. Put it in a drawer untouched for a year. By then it had turned clear, with 2 or 3 black specs floating around. And useless, hence my questions about shelf life.
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'I remember there were published some works in a few volumes about CS reconstruction jobs but unfortunately |I don't have this work' Ok......what are these few volumes? I enjoy a good hunt (for information).
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Thank you, John. I'll be trying this with a bit more confidence 😎
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Rigging isn't my strong point. Curious to know why the rails were never fitted at Greenwich. Another curious thing.....we never hear from folk who are/were involved with the hands on work, restoring and maintaining the ship.
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Do these products have a shelf life? Also, what proportions for the baking soda/water pickling solution? Thanks.
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John, hi. Clearly the rails pre-date her training days.
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Realised I have a migraine! These rails.....were they mounted as a safety feature when 'Cutty' was a training ship? Your collective observations and opinions are very welcome.
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(boy holding the rail) Sorry, having difficulty combining text and images. Anyway, these rails feature on most models I've seen, including yours, Marco. It appears I was assuming these rails were present pre-fire. May be it was a mental confusion, as when I went back to my files, the rails indeed weren't there pre-fire. However, all kits seem to include them, Longridge includes them and they can be seen in several 'period' photo's. Now I've given myself a brain fog. By including these images I hope you can see what I'm getting at?
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Just been breezing through my folders of the ship I've gleaned off the 'net over the years (A LOT). No one seems to have picked up on the changes made to the 'Liverpool/Monkey Poop'. There are several subtle differences, but the main one is what happened to the prominent side rails? Before restoration they were there and now they've gone.
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Cirdan, hi. The 'Denny' model could be wrongly attributed, but the museum claims it is? The Rennie drawing is fascinating, thanks for bringing it to our attention. Somewhere I'm sure I read that the fore deck house was not there originally? This photo shows a square forefoot?
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Campbell = 1950's. Underhill = early 1930's. Having seen the thoroughness which Underhill researched his other subjects, personally (for what it's worth) I'd go for his interpretation. In the end, I don't think either got it completely right. Too much is lost and forgotten and any claims to definitive historical accuracy are ultimately based on conjecture. Until the original plans turn up (not entirely impossible) nothing is written in stone and I for one am getting rather weary of this aspect, which I feel is getting close to the autistic spectrum. Build your models and enjoy doing it.
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When were the Campbell plans first drawn up? Though these are, or appear to be comprehensive, they aren't the only plans available (ie Underhill). Decorative elements at stern and bow have been changed, damaged or lost at different times. Lubock mentions the lurid dancing naked witches; removed early on for Victorian 'decency' reasons.
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shipman replied to DaveBaxt's topic in Discussion for a Ship's Deck Furniture, Guns, boats and other Fittings
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Marco, hi. I did buy the bow and stern etch from HisModels; they make a much better job compared to the iffy kit decals. What did you use to attach them? I bought my stock of very small chain, stanchions and brass wire for railings from a very helpful chap in the Isle of Man who has since sadly passed away. All that stuff is hidden away now; however, I'll go hunting for it tomorrow and photograph it and post it for you ASAP. I do recall I was impressed with these items, being fine and delicate; eminently suitable for the CS. From what I can see on HisModel's site, they are identical. I was very tempted to buy brass belay pins but when I realised they would disappear under rope coils, so couldn't justify the cost. Someone Stateside sells bumper packs of these at reasonable cost, but the P&P killed that for me. I see Willis specified steel pins so presumably they were painted black. The rails and stanchions are another one of those items that bug me a little. Published descriptions often remark how the Clippers were treated like yachts by their owners (at least when new). For instance, the upper hull planking was planed, painted and polished, so the separate planks couldn't be discerned. Well, if they went to all that trouble, then why not polished brass rails? Photo's of CS, taken in Australia when she was by then plying the wool and general cargo trade clearly show them painted white. But what about before?
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Mmmm. That white/grey/lilac colour certainly doesn't reflect the 'A bright, white pigment' dicription I introduced earlier. Zinc white is relatively translucent, so the practice of using it as a top coat over a 'conventional' oil based white paint is sound practice. One of its earliest recognised properties was as an anti-fouling medium (ie it would stay whiter longer).
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