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Hi druxey. Thank you for letting me know the correct size! When I get there 3/4" it is!  

Grant and Bob thanks for your opinion on the treenails. I too like the larger one.

To me it’s better on the eye. I’ll hold off for a while on making a final decision though.

Here I’ve made the false keel. It calls for the top edges to be beveled and to do this I used

the Byrnes table saw with my new tilting table. Once I figured out the angle it worked great.

No surprise there.

I then glued the false keel in place. I used a second piece clamping the ends to hold it in

place. I also put a ¼” thick piece in the middle between the false keel and the second

piece to put pressure there until the glue dried.

Next up will be making the deck clamps and floor riders.

Hi Bob,

As anticipated you did an excellent job on the planking. I have done the simulated treenails before

and if you like them they can add nicely to the model. Then again I have left them off and been very

happy too!

Lotta help huh?   I’m sure whatever you do will look great.

Thanks Sinan.

OK the test continues.

The treenails on the right are approx 1 1/4 of an inch while the ones on the left are 3/4 of an inch.

The colors are different because I used scrap wood. The one on the right are closer to what the color will be.

Ok I did a little experiment. I took a plank that the plans call for that is 13 scale inches wide.

I pulled a treenail to a size 55 on the Byrnes draw plate and it would equate to a little over

1 scale inch. Visually it looks good to me.

I might try it a little smaller. Maybe ¾ of an inch at scale.

Hi Grant, Thanks for confirming my math.

Now I have to try and figure out what size treenail to use.

One down and one to go.  

Hi all. I've been looking ahead and they don't show treenails for the inboard planking and my feeble mind is

trying to figure out the correct size a treenail should be at this scale. Now if 1/2 inch = 1foot then would

1/16" treenails be 1 1/2" @  scale?

Then if that's correct would 1 1/2" treenails be the right size?

Help!!!!!!!!  and thanks 

Well I made it back last night and I popped on for a quick look see and man has

everyone been prolific while I was gone. I'll have to take a couple of days off from

work just to catch up on all the posts.

I want to thank you all for stopping by and for you kind words and interest in this build.

Work, yeah like it’s work  , will resume tonight.  

Ohhhhhh having flash backs!!!!! Even nice wood like box can still bite you in the butt once

in a while. My scrap box got so big I had to scrap the scrap box. Nice work and the good

news is I know that, if possible, the second will be even better than the first!  

Thank you Rob.

Well I’ve installed all of the frames. After fine tuning them so they sat correctly it

was just a matter of gluing one in place, waiting for the glue to set then repeat.

To strengthen the frames for when I remove the cross section from the framing jig I

glued blocks between the frames at the area of the wales and then at the tops of

the frames.

I also thought about installing blocks between the frames at the keel but instead I

drilled through the frames into the keel and glued in a dowel. Now those frames

aren’t going anywhere.

Next up will be a lot of sanding the frames to fair it up. I’ll start with the inboard while

it’s still in the framing jig and install some of the interior framing and clamps to strengthen

it even more.

Well I’m off on a short vacation so I’ll be away from a computer. Hopefully the withdrawal

pains won’t be too severe!  

Hi Terry and a hearty welcome back. Minimal explanations on the old pictures are fine.

I vaguely remember what I did on a current build let alone one so long ago. Great to see

you are back and I look forward to another scratch Syren.  

Hi Remco, I'm glad to be able to sit back and watch you work again. Very inspiring.

Hi Robbyn,

Having built the Confederacy I wholeheartedly agree with Augie. She’s big, challenging yet fun to work

on and you don’t get better instruction than Chuck’s. Also should you get the desire the plans are great

and you can scratch some of the parts but beware it can start a pull to the dark side!  

Hi Greg and Grant, thanks for stopping by. Starting to put frames in place!

Hi John and Harvey, Thanks for your interest and kind words.

Hi Len, You have done a wonderful job! I love it.

Thanks all,

Very observant. Those plans have shown up in many a picture over the years. The plans are

for the OcCre Cazador Xebec which I have been tinkering with on and off over the last three years.

The hull and deck are planked. I figure at the rate I’m going it will be done sometime in 2016!

Hi Chris, Well it’s too early to tell. One thing I know is you don’t have to worry as much about snapping

a frame when they are ½” thick and I swear you could stand on them. Cutting joints and chocks were a

lot easier too but the scroll saw work to cut them out took three times as long and I went through a whole

lot more blades. Another thing is if you make a mistake in a joint it is compounded by the size. What would

be a paper thin gap on the Echo could be very wide on this build.

I can see why people would like the larger scale though. We shall see.

I get it from Tower Hobbies. I'm used to using 12 - 24" at a time (at 2" width).

 

Hi Augie, It's funny you mentioned that. I just received several rolls from Tower Hobbies and have some 

the Great Planes hand sanders. Never built a plane but they work great on my ship models.

Looking forward to more progress and pictures!

Hey thanks to all of you for your interest and support.

Yeah Ben, Gregs methods were a big help.

Big Frames, Big treenails, Big piles of saw dust! 

Oh yeah and a big pile of frames too!

Thanks druxey.

When making the double frames the plans show a single treenail on each side of the

joint at the chocks. The size came very close to 3/32”. I used a standard dowel that I

had at that size for the treenail. And no I don’t have a drawplate that size.  

Almost done making frames!  

It looks like you are doing very well there Augie. The stern can be a pain if you

don't take your time and double check. Well done!  

Bob, You can always order a Confederacy and build it with Augie while they

straighten out the Essex.  

Thanks Daniel.

A crane might not be a bad idea. I think I may get a hernia when it come to taking it

out of the framing jig.  Still plugging along here finishing and fitting frames.

Well done Augie. I really like the depth of the color. Very nice!

I’m still chugging along with assembling the frames. Slow but steady she goes.

Here are a few more done and test fitted to the keel and framing jig.

Hi Chris, Great job and I want it! I want It! I want it!