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The comments made me blush But it is really because of MSW - there are so many great build logs to learn on, especially the ones where people share the process, show how a certain part is done, different tricks and jigs, etc. That is one of the most fascinating parts of this hobby for me. Some people can do magic with just a few tools, sharp blade and a chisel. And steady hand and an eagle eye. But some come up with a clever jig that does not require a sharp eye or hand skill, but will produce a stable and good result. This is engineering at its best. Such build logs and Remco's motto are an information treasure! That is why I am always pedantically documenting the build process. It might be very trivial and boring for some readers, but could be interesting for others.
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It is just perfect in all aspects!
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Well, I sometimes see deers around, and there are 3 sheeps, 2 pigs, some chicken and few rabbits in 500m from my apartment. Does it count? Anyway, you are welcome and I'm not joking.
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At home, so far. I am greedy Even if I will decide to donate it to the museum - do not think they will take it. Stockholm maritime museum has more models in their collection that they want to display. Some of them are top notch, way better then mine, but still not on display. Carl, but you are always welcome to see it, you live fairly close by Hope you enjoy them! They are not smooth enough for the finishing work, but nothing can compete with tiny xacto blades for finish scraping. No nicks or dents, super clean surface left Patrick, thanks a lot! You hit the nail - it is a lot about engineering, I am really attracted to this period and style because it shows a pretty complex, but beautiful curves of the ship hull. Shipbuilding industry of that centuries was closer to a large-scale workmanship, with aesthetics being a big part of it.
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Thanks a lot again! It is always a pleasure to see the new posts here Speaking of the dockyards - sorry for hijacking your topic, hope you do not mind a few photos from Hamburg maritime museum:
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Yes, that is comforting - once I reach the top decks - I will already learn enough on mistakes done in the bottom of the hull. Nobody will see the deep parts of the hull anyway I would be super happy if anybody will ever look deep enough into the model to find a loose joint in the keelson.
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Keelson is done. Bolts are simulated with black monofilament that is glued with gel CA. Then CA is sanded away and the wood is scraped with xacto blade to the desired finish: I start to like scraping more than sanding with fine sandpaper - paper leaves some super fine sawdust in the wood pores, while scraping removes it and leaves a better finish. Edges are chamfered with the plane and fine shaped by scraping (because keelson is a bit curved, plane is not perfect for it): Tung oil applied: Applied the oil before gluing - it would be really hard to reach the corners between the frames and the keelson when keelson is installed. I find the oil really forgiving - you can scrape some parts after the installation to make sure they fit perfectly, and then re-apply oil there - it will perfectly blend with the previously finished areas. Very forgiving finish. End result: I am not happy with the fit quality - everything was perfectly fitting when not on a hull, but on a hull the join angles got a bit out of alignment, leading to gaps: Will spend more time fine-fitting on the hull next time!
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Hm, that is a good idea, thanks! Yes, they should be square to the keel.
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SCHOONER ENTERPRIZE by GConiglio - POF
Mike Y replied to GConiglio's topic in - Build logs for subjects built 1801 - 1850
Very fine wood, I am using the same pear from Arkowood, it finishes nicely and is perfect! Please keep it coming! -
Grant, I just realised that I am an idiot - thin knife should fit if you poke it from the outside, not from the inside of the hull. Thanks for the comment that pushed me in the right direction. Will re-mark the remaining pieces of the keel, should save some time for fit-and-cut iterations.
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Grant, I have a scriber, but the sharp angle between the marking tool and frames and keelson makes it really hard to use anything except pencil. Ideally some hook-shaped scriber could be used, but I was too lazy to make one just for a single use.
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Working on the keelson. Decided not to rely on the plans due to possible error here and there, and fit it to the hull instead. Fixing the keelson parts to the hull with masking tape: Marking frame boundaries: Keelson markup completed: First fit after milling, some notches are not wide enough. Three iterations on a mill were required, because these pencil marks are not precise enough (hard to get the pencil right, the angle was awkward): After the fitting. Will need to make some notches deeper to avoid gaps: Now rinse and repeat!
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Scroll saw for bow pieces and frames
Mike Y replied to Brucealanevans's topic in Modeling tools and Workshop Equipment
You mean DS115? I bought one for my 10yr old nephew, and tested it a bit before giving it to him. With stock blades it is very weak, tried to cut 8mm piece of pear - you need to push quite a lot, which leads to innacurate curves due to twisting blade. Or be reeeeally patient. -
Scroll saw for bow pieces and frames
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Frames have a pretty smooth curves, maybe bandsaw is good enough? Especially if the blade is narrow. I use Proxxon band saw, and it is perfect for frames. Never needed any scroll saw. -
Few cents: I am not sure if simplification is a part of the style (except framing). I thought it is more of "let's leave some details up to the builder". Bill, here is a link to the Oliver Cromwell plans preview from Lumberyard website (the preview is distorted and not suitavle for building, you need to purchase real plans to build): http://www.dlumberyard.com/Plans/cromwell.pdf As you can see, some things are simplified. Like Mark mentolned - knees, carlings, deadwood, stem, stern, But nothing stops the builder from reading up and making a correct version instead of simplified one, like I did. It will not change the "style". However if you change the framing style - it would not be a Hahn style anymore. But it is really a fuzzy term. Hahn was "anti-purist", so hope he would not mind people deviating from his plans even if building from them
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Bill, I do not think this term is clearly defined, but it is typically equally spaced frames with no shifts. Also, he popularised the jig that helps to build the hull upside-down, as you see in the beginning of the log.
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Some "build snapshot" photos. Tung oil finish is especially beautiful under direct sunlight. It is such a pity that it is a not a good idea to display the model in the sunny place Damn physics!
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Fingers crossed for you, Danny. Stay strong and win!
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Hi John, Thanks! The scrapers are amazing, I am using them very often now. They are removing much more material than xacto blades, and they can get into any small places because of the small size. The edge do not have any dents. Bought them here: http://www.axminster.co.uk/lynx-mini-cabinet-scraper-set-504698 I also discovered them on MSW in somebody's build log, but forgot who that was... Quick googling shows that you can buy them in US, for example, here: http://www.woodcraft.com/product/158977/lynx-mini-scraper-set-4pc.aspx http://www.grizzly.com/products/Lynx-Mini-Scraper-Set/T26658?utm_campaign=zPage http://www.japanwoodworker.com/Product/158977/Lynx-Mini-Scraper-Set-4pc.aspx etc etc
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Or the plug is single-use and would be cut into pieces like frame centers in Chuck's longboat? Very impressive fairing and keel slot. Looks so accurate as it is milled on the completed hull. Incredible precision!
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They are not perfectly symmetrical where the bending is significant (+/- 1mm, not more), but this would not be visible if I manage to make nice and even deck framing, perfectly aligned in all projections (because the deck beams are higher than deck clamps, recessed by roughly 1 inch). How hard could it be, right?
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