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Bob Cleek got a reaction from mtaylor in 1860 Deckhouse roof
They used raw, non-prestretched canvas, tacked down around the edges over and Irish felt underlayment. They threw hot water on the canvas to get it to stretch tightly over the shape of the roof. Some actually applied the paint over the canvas when it was still damp. I wouldn't recommend using waterbased paint for this purpose. I'd use a solvent based "porch enamel." It's best to use an enamel that chalks when it ages, in order to minimize paint buildup on the canvas. The enamel paint was thinned well to soak into the canvas easily.
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Bob Cleek got a reaction from thibaultron in Original 1905 Herreshoff for sale
Someday, hopefully soon. Spare time is in precious short supply these days and SWMBO lays claim to most of it!
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Bob Cleek got a reaction from thibaultron in Original 1905 Herreshoff for sale
Goodness! I certainly hope not!
Yes, the stainless steel fittings and all the modern design below is rather jarring to a "classicist's eye." In this day and age, though, the modern materials promise a much longer-lived boat than the traditional wooden construction. I'm not a big fan of it, mind you, but if I were spending that kind of money on a cruising boat, I'd sure be looking for something like that boat for the lower maintenance, if nothing else.
Maintenance aside, I'd prefer a laid wood deck and bronze hardware to the modern steel construction:
The original Dyarchy built of wood is a much "saltier" boat.
I have a set of the original Dyarchy plans and a license to build one model from them. I hope to get around to it one of these days.
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Bob Cleek got a reaction from thibaultron in Original 1905 Herreshoff for sale
Keith, as a former classic yacht broker, I'd say $380,000 is way more than this NY30 is really worth. I don't doubt they have every bit of that into her, but the market is in the toilet right now and they are asking a lot of money for the "cachet." That kind of money will buy a lot of boat in that class these days. If money's no object, you and TBlack might want to consider that this one: sold for and asking price of only around $200,000 with the purchase price likely considerably less, and it's a new steel hull with state-of-the-art construction and technology: https://dailyboats.com/boat/162322-buy-laurent-giles-54-steel-gaff-rigged-cutter-for-sale
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Bob Cleek got a reaction from thibaultron in Original 1905 Herreshoff for sale
There's another NY30 on the market for $390,000, so you can draw your own conclusions as to the condition of the one on eBay for $112,000. ( 1905 Herreshoff New York 30 Antique and Classic for sale - YachtWorld ) She's probably due for a major rebuild. These beautiful classic boats are worthy of major rebuilds, but few can justify putting the mid-six figures necessary into doing so. The higher priced one had 95% of her frames and floor timbers replaced, a new interior and decks and deckhouse done in a major rebuild about six or eight years ago, and that work probably cost quite a bit more than it would have to simply have built another one completely new. A lot of money for that much boat, but if you want to rub shoulders with the high and mighty at the NYYC, that's the price of admission, I suppose.
There's not much to see below on these old time class racers. They would built lightly and with Spartan accommodations. The furniture as designed is elegant in its simplicity, but not intended for "company." These were essentially large "day sailers" intended for racing only.
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Bob Cleek got a reaction from mtaylor in 1860 Deckhouse roof
Common practice was to lay tongue and groove planking over beams, lay Irish (flax) felt (similar to a thick tar paper) bedded in white lead bedding compound on top of the planking, and canvas nailed, then shrunk in place with boiling water, which was then painted to produce a watertight covering. (This same method was used for railroad coaches of the period, as well.)
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Bob Cleek got a reaction from mtaylor in Original 1905 Herreshoff for sale
Someday, hopefully soon. Spare time is in precious short supply these days and SWMBO lays claim to most of it!
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Bob Cleek got a reaction from mtaylor in Original 1905 Herreshoff for sale
Goodness! I certainly hope not!
Yes, the stainless steel fittings and all the modern design below is rather jarring to a "classicist's eye." In this day and age, though, the modern materials promise a much longer-lived boat than the traditional wooden construction. I'm not a big fan of it, mind you, but if I were spending that kind of money on a cruising boat, I'd sure be looking for something like that boat for the lower maintenance, if nothing else.
Maintenance aside, I'd prefer a laid wood deck and bronze hardware to the modern steel construction:
The original Dyarchy built of wood is a much "saltier" boat.
I have a set of the original Dyarchy plans and a license to build one model from them. I hope to get around to it one of these days.
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Bob Cleek got a reaction from mtaylor in Original 1905 Herreshoff for sale
Keith, as a former classic yacht broker, I'd say $380,000 is way more than this NY30 is really worth. I don't doubt they have every bit of that into her, but the market is in the toilet right now and they are asking a lot of money for the "cachet." That kind of money will buy a lot of boat in that class these days. If money's no object, you and TBlack might want to consider that this one: sold for and asking price of only around $200,000 with the purchase price likely considerably less, and it's a new steel hull with state-of-the-art construction and technology: https://dailyboats.com/boat/162322-buy-laurent-giles-54-steel-gaff-rigged-cutter-for-sale
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Bob Cleek got a reaction from wefalck in 1860 Deckhouse roof
Common practice was to lay tongue and groove planking over beams, lay Irish (flax) felt (similar to a thick tar paper) bedded in white lead bedding compound on top of the planking, and canvas nailed, then shrunk in place with boiling water, which was then painted to produce a watertight covering. (This same method was used for railroad coaches of the period, as well.)
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Bob Cleek got a reaction from allanyed in 1860 Deckhouse roof
Common practice was to lay tongue and groove planking over beams, lay Irish (flax) felt (similar to a thick tar paper) bedded in white lead bedding compound on top of the planking, and canvas nailed, then shrunk in place with boiling water, which was then painted to produce a watertight covering. (This same method was used for railroad coaches of the period, as well.)
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Bob Cleek reacted to druxey in 1860 Deckhouse roof
I believe that painted canvas was also used over roofs.
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Bob Cleek reacted to kurtvd19 in Airbrush tips
The name brand airbrushes have high quality control standards and a name to uphold while the no name or rip offs have zero to very little QC and are usually using cheap components. Good luck getting some help from them.
Needle bushings are probably too tight if the needle isn't moving on a new brush. If it's a used brush it might be bushings but more likely dried paint.
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Bob Cleek got a reaction from Keith Black in Original 1905 Herreshoff for sale
Someday, hopefully soon. Spare time is in precious short supply these days and SWMBO lays claim to most of it!
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Bob Cleek got a reaction from Canute in Model Shipways paint
Just make sure the paint-covered mixer is in the jar of water or thinner before you start spinning it. (Don't ask me how I know this! )
For those who may be new to painting, it should be understood that most all "coatings," (paints and varnishes) will require "conditioning" before use. Paint that is "thick" is often an indication of good quality, since it is the pigment that causes the consistency and it's the pigment that's the most costly ingredient in the paint. Thin paint just contains more cheap solvent ingredients. Why anybody would buy thinned paint for airbrushing at the same price as thicker "regular" paint is beyond me. It's sort of like buying a fifth of pre-mixed "bourbon and water" for the same price as a fifth of 80 proof!
Paints, particularly, are almost never suitable for use "right out of the can" and will require "conditioning" regardless of whether it's to be applied by brushing or spraying, Conditioning usually at least consists of thinning, but can also include adding "levelers" or "retarders" which retard drying or "driers" which accelerate drying. Thinners for acrylics are generally water and alcohol in various proportions. (Adding water to acrylic coatings is often a bad move, since the water takes a while to evaporate and can end up making a mess. Alcohol is preferred, particularly for airbrushing, because it evaporates quickly.)
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Bob Cleek got a reaction from Keith Black in Original 1905 Herreshoff for sale
Goodness! I certainly hope not!
Yes, the stainless steel fittings and all the modern design below is rather jarring to a "classicist's eye." In this day and age, though, the modern materials promise a much longer-lived boat than the traditional wooden construction. I'm not a big fan of it, mind you, but if I were spending that kind of money on a cruising boat, I'd sure be looking for something like that boat for the lower maintenance, if nothing else.
Maintenance aside, I'd prefer a laid wood deck and bronze hardware to the modern steel construction:
The original Dyarchy built of wood is a much "saltier" boat.
I have a set of the original Dyarchy plans and a license to build one model from them. I hope to get around to it one of these days.
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Bob Cleek got a reaction from Keith Black in Original 1905 Herreshoff for sale
Keith, as a former classic yacht broker, I'd say $380,000 is way more than this NY30 is really worth. I don't doubt they have every bit of that into her, but the market is in the toilet right now and they are asking a lot of money for the "cachet." That kind of money will buy a lot of boat in that class these days. If money's no object, you and TBlack might want to consider that this one: sold for and asking price of only around $200,000 with the purchase price likely considerably less, and it's a new steel hull with state-of-the-art construction and technology: https://dailyboats.com/boat/162322-buy-laurent-giles-54-steel-gaff-rigged-cutter-for-sale
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Bob Cleek got a reaction from thibaultron in Can anyone explain this curious gun station detail on Gibraltar?
I think Lieste has found some authority for the "screening" explanation. Good research work!
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Bob Cleek got a reaction from mtaylor in Can anyone explain this curious gun station detail on Gibraltar?
I think Lieste has found some authority for the "screening" explanation. Good research work!
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Bob Cleek got a reaction from jud in Can anyone explain this curious gun station detail on Gibraltar?
I think Lieste has found some authority for the "screening" explanation. Good research work!
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Bob Cleek got a reaction from bruce d in Can anyone explain this curious gun station detail on Gibraltar?
I think Lieste has found some authority for the "screening" explanation. Good research work!
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Bob Cleek got a reaction from Keith Black in Can anyone explain this curious gun station detail on Gibraltar?
I think Lieste has found some authority for the "screening" explanation. Good research work!
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Bob Cleek reacted to Lieste in Can anyone explain this curious gun station detail on Gibraltar?
A document which includes a description of a British engineer proposal for baise stripes suspended from iron rods to conceal the embrasures, and a Russian use of rope in the same way (along with a mantlet of rope wound around the barrel (as a disk, tightly constructed) to prevent the heavy losses from canister and musketry.
https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=KDZWAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA113&lpg=PA113&dq=rope+screen+embrasure&source=bl&ots=f6wpJySIsu&sig=ACfU3U3aYOyBuV2ZHjg3Fq6C5YDE-Lv_tg&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjwieWC34P6AhWDg1wKHaIyAsgQ6AF6BAgWEAM#v=onepage&q=rope screen embrasure&f=false
So the screen is as above suggested most probably for concealment, but a mantlet is also likely on the gun itself to give protection to the gunners.
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Bob Cleek reacted to Richard44 in Can anyone explain this curious gun station detail on Gibraltar?
No idea, but perhaps the ropes were added at some much later date, and actually have nothing to do with the gun itself.
Given that this is Gibraltar, maybe for the apes to swing on?? 😁😁 I'll retire quietly now.
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Bob Cleek got a reaction from mtaylor in Can anyone explain this curious gun station detail on Gibraltar?
I considered and discarded all the explanations mentioned, save this one. The trouble I have with it, though, is that as soon as a black powder cannon was fired from that embrasure, it would be pretty obvious that it was there and, at the firing distances involved, the movement of the crew and running out the gun would probably not have been all that discernable. Furthermore, for the purposes of concealment, canvas curtains painted the color of the rock face would be much more effective.
I was hoping RN vet could explain with certainty what those things are.
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