Old Collingwood
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Thats a good question - I will decide after I have finished touching up the hull side paintwork, prior to build the superstructor. OC. -
Next will be to touch up the two camo colours and the areas where the tape pulled some paint off, then I will decide what I am going to do with the prop issue. OC
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An update folks with a few picture updates curtosy of my wifes cam, they show the completed anti-fouling and black boot line, I have also started cleaning up where the camo paint meets the boot. OC.
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I masked the bottom boot line after marking with a strait line tool(Block of wood with pencil attached) Then mask was a very narrow blue tape following the strait boot line, I then decided I would hand paint the boot using my nato black that I had in Water Acrylic, it is matt but several coats and its gone on well with little to no creeping under the masking. Let it dry then Tape Off top and lower strip, and its done quite a good job about 50% better and neater than my first attempt, I will have to hand paint each camo section where they meet the boot line, as masking would be a nightmare due to all the raised fittings on the ledge of the torpedo bulge, but with any luck and light from my new stand and magnifier I should be able to do the two tone shades bit by careful bit. OC.
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From what I have read during DDay she had to return to Portsmouth UK to replenish her 15 Inch shells, but while in port the descovered she had worn out the sleeves in most of her three remaining turrets, so the decided to send her upto Scotland(Rosyth Yard) to have her barrels changed, on the way there sailing along the English Channel just past Dover she hit a mine on her rear quarters and this knocked out her four shafts and jammed her stearing, she was also holed that created a partial flooding to her rear. They managed to get two of her props going and freed her rudder by brave divers, when she arrived at Rosyth they patched her hull and managed to straighten the prop shafts by heating and forcing with jacks, but one was stuck solid so they left it, and she was so needed for the shore bombardment at Dunkirk. My quiry is - would they have taken the spinner off the dead prop shaft at this point to save on drag, or would they have just left it on the jammed shaft? I assume the spinners would have just been screwed onto the shafts - so would have either been unscrewed or perhaps cut off leaving a more streamlined prop shaft. Any thoughts as there is no photo evidence and nothing written about the desison to remove the spinner or leave it in place. OC.
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Folks during Warspites action at Dunkirk she hit a mine and lost one of her prop shafts and spinner actions, she had repairs including new barrels but was left with just three shafts working, would she have had spinner removed to save on drag with just the shaft left in place. Any ideas please? OC.
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Later today I should be able to mask up the boot line as the red should have gone off and be dry enough to take the tape, i will need to decide if I am going to hand paint the boot line using some of the satin spray from the rattle can in a cup, as this would require less masking and covering of the bottom hull, or if I should just cover the whole bottom upto the mask - and spay? OC.
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I had the same problem Greg do you think I could find the bollards and part of my spinner that just fell off somewhere, The carpet monster has a lot to answer to OC.
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I gave her a second coat of anti fouling and it seems to have sprayed quite well, I will give it a couple of days before spraying the boot line - after masking her again. Third time lucky - or is it tenth time OC
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Small update folks but just words in absense of a camera I let the paint dry for a good 24-30 hrs then had a look at it, it was fully dry - even the smell you get from enamel had gone, so i got my wet and dry paper - not 1000 grade as suggested, but I have some 800 that has been used so its lost a bit of its bite, I used water aswel and in small areas gently rubbed the small ridges that had been formed due to the reaction between the two mediums, it went quite well and I was left with a dulled but smooth surface that is ready for another spray. I did manage though to knock of the spinner blade that I had glued back on, so it will either have to wait for a replacement part or put it down to shell damage when she lost her stearing OC
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Thank you for the comments greg, I thought I would have some fun and games with the hull, but as I was feeling a bit dissheartened, I rushed on with spraying the bottom, its that constant learning curve where you see inperfections later that should have been done beforehand, with my situation it is from now having better light and a more powerfull magnifier, and my errors show through clearly, and more so on the pics I took before my cam broke. Like I said above - I'm going through a bit of a rough path at the moment, but just need to weather it out, and hope for better things soon. OC
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Than You for your kind words, I'm kind of going through a bit of a rough patch at the moment, the boats playing up a bit, my camera had died on me, my other hobby is Aviation or Aircraft Spotting and that aint going well as my cam was firstly no good for that and secondly its died, and lastly my health aint to great at the moment, all while being rather strapped for cash so cant even get away for a break. OC
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I didn't know if I should post this or not - but I have not been having a very good time with the build, I seem to be going backwards and not improving anything on it, when I was rectifying the hull sides I managed to knock several deck fittings off including several bollards, the small block on the rear deck kept getting the brass derrick supports bent and broken, so I managed to remove the whole block and put it aside, next was the spinners - I managed to break one of them in two but I found the piece and glued it back on, only to be knocked off every time I handled the hull, one of the props it came un glued from the hull and needed securing. Today I masked up the whole top side and deck with layers of tape like a tent ridged in the center - at least no spray should kreep in, well i put a couple of surgical gloves on went outdoors and sprayed the whole bottom and sides up to the mask, with the same rattle can as I used before, it went on in a couple of layers but - Its Orange Peeled folks , no doubt the enamel base over the top of the Water Acrylic hand painted top coat, even though that had been painted on months and months ago. Not a happy bunny at the moment with it :( OC
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I spent the last two days in the sunshine doing my other hobby - photographing planes, so this gave me a good break from the build kind of rested my eyes, I will be back on her today masking the hull top sides and deck to make sure no paint sprays onto that section, I will spray the bottom and part sides - upto the Boot line with the red I used before, then put her aside to dry thoroughly. OC.
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I sanded off all of the raised plastic detail on my warspite deck before fitting the pontos deck, perhaps this helped its fixing as it was a flat yet slightly abrasive due to sanding. OC
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Some update pics folks showing the prep work and masking completed on one side, just need to mask up the other side and the top will need completely covering before I spray the Anti-Fouling. Hope all the bodywork hasn't shocked to many folks OC.
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Folks - here is a pic to show what I had intended to do(its a pic showing the side and the alterations marked on it) I have done both sides like this but also other alterations as mentioned above, I will take some more pics tomorrow to show the pre - painting stage. OC.
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A bit more of an update but minus any pics, as I am trying to hold on to the small amount of Internet allowance we have left, till our next next fill up and pics take allowance up. anyway - I carried on sanding the pipes off and am very happy with the finish, I also decided that now was the time to correct any other issues on the hull - while I had the chance, so I sanded around the bow as there had been a few bubbles, that where from the paper armour plate that had not settled, but by doing this I kind of made the situation worse and ended up with a shallow gouge down through the paint layers and paper, and to the plastic hull, this was going to need some work to rectify as it looked terrible. I sanded the area quite hard to blend the area as best as I could, then I did a lot of thin washes with my brush over the dent and over the whole frontal bow area, inbetween I force dried the paint using a hair dryer and continued till the dent was filled, the result from doing this for several hours was sucsess. I moved away from this and started scrappng the top line against the recess ontop of the Torpedo Bulge, to get a more accurate line for masking when I spray the boot line after re doing the lower hull sides Red Antifouling. At the moment the hull looks like a car when its having body work done on it - Rough LOL. OC.
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Looking great greg, love all that detail in the small boats really adds to the ship. OC
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I made a start earlier yesterday on the pump outlet pipes along the mid boot line, I started with a medium corse standing stick and gradually worked my way along the hull, i cleaned up as I went with water as this gave me a smoother finish, I finnished off using a much finer(well used) sanding stick and cleaned up with an abrasive sponge pad. One side has been finished like this and tomorrow I will attack the other side with the same method, after I will finnish off fitting the casemates and any other small bits along the hull, I will then tape up the top edge of the Boot line and also mask of the lower torpedo bulge round to the bow/stern, and cover the props/spinners/rudders and re-spray the red anti-fouling. I will put her aside to fully set and harden before I mask up to spray the Boot Line. OC.
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Decided folks after some careful looking over my hull, and some research - some rather drastic re-work needs to be done, in the shape of filing away a few profiles that are supposed to be pump hull tubes(these where cut back higher as the boot line was highered due to her extra weight), this also includes a few going lower than the boot line, so after filing/sanding i might aswell give her bottom side hull, boot topping a fresh spray, i will then do any touching up - finish off the hull fittings and add her depth markings to the semi shiny surface. I will then do any touching up to the two coats of grey on her camo, and get hold of a good flat rattle can top coat, as I couldn't get smooth even coats of acrylic top coat with a brush. OC.
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I started on the casemates yesterday each one comes in three sections top middle and bottom(souds like strike it lucky) first off i sepaerated them in to groups of four and glued the bottom sections on to the deck first, I did this both sides till all eight were in place, next I seperated the middle section that contained the barrel shroud, I had to file off the joing pip from the fret then glued onto this this the top section, the whole two pice section was then carefully glued into possition ontop of the bottom section(hope you are foilowing this ok) After completing four sets I noticed I had managed to mar a few areas of the hull from Constant handling - as for some reason the lower hull just seemes to have a very slight tacky feel to it and picks up all sorts of stuff, dust marks etc(it should be hard and set solid as the Vallejo top coat was applied months and months ago, this was applied by brush over the top of a thoroughly dry enamel rattle can finnish that gave me my hull red finnish. Also I noticed that I had somehow got some poly cement on the lower hull and this had caused a slight run and melted into the finnish slightly, so Im pondering ideas to treat this area - light sanding then a small masked off spray from that enamel rattle can? or a bit sprayed into the cap and applied with a small brush. But its protecting the painted hull during all the months and months of work ahead, its so soul destroying seeing the once nice paint work getting shabby and tacky :o OC.
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Next move tomorrow is start on the 6 Inch Casemates that she carried on here lower broadside deck, she had the barrels removed prior to D Day but kept the housings that were just turned inward, I will do the same with mine. Here is a part pic from my drawing I did showing the four casemates on the lower deck and how they blend in. OC.
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