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Should you find a copy, be aware that, due to a printer's error, one frame on the plan set appears twice and one omitted. The missing frame plan is attached here.
 
Good luck!

HMS Janus. She sank in1800 in Trinidad. these were recovered in the 1970's from the wreck. we actually have a piece of rope embedded in coral. I was able to get them from the diver that picked them up.
 
Kevin

... to the end of the line? I couldn't resist ... 😇

... to the end of the line? I couldn't resist ... 😇

... to the end of the line? I couldn't resist ... 😇

Several somewhat unconnected thoughts:
 
There is no American maritime history researcher that even comes close to Chapelle.  He spearheaded the documentation of local American Sailing craft large and small.  He realized and followed up on the fact that the Royal Navy had in its archives dozens of drawings for captured American sailing ships.  He was an excellent draftsman and produced hundreds of drawings.  Even with his interpretations and reconstructions models built from these drawings are more accurate than 90% of those built from mass market European POB kits. And, regarding USF Constellation he was 100% right!
 
I would not consider him to have been uneducated.  While he was not a graduate of one of the “Big Three” Naval Architecture Programs (MIT, University of Michigan or Webb Institute) and might not have been qualified to design the SS United States, I believe that he had completed the Westlawn Correspondence Naval Architecture Course.  His writings indicate clearly that he understood sailing vessel design; a subject not taught at the University of Michigan when I was a student there in the1960’s.  Sailing yacht design was considered to be an art, not a science.
 
Any Naval Architect will tell you that the basis for any ship design, full size or model is an accurate set of hull lines.  Chapelle’s drawings were based on old drawings or half models, so he often had to correct for distortion in his source materials.  Furthermore, no two Naval Architects will produce exactly the same lines drawing from the same input data. This happens because of “fairing.”  In plotting curves, there will always be points that don’t line up or don’t match in all three dimensions.  The drafter must, therefore, adjust his drawing to produce a fair surface and no two drafters will do this the same way 100% of the time.  How many different “original” lines drawings exist for the Yacht America and which on reflects the actual vessel.
 
L. Francis Herreshoff was not particularly well educated in the traditional sense.  He was Dyslexic and his father, MIT educated Nathaniel Herreshoff, sent him to a local Agricultural School with the idea that he would manage a farm that the family owned.  Instead of completing the program he effectively ran away from home and got a job as a draftsman with W. Starling Burgess. He learned yacht design on the job.  In fact Nathaniel Herreshoff was not a Naval Architect.  His degree from MIT was in mechanical engineering. Olin Stevens also was not a University educated Naval Architect and has written that late in his career had trouble understanding the new CFD (Computational Fluid Dynamics ).  
 
Roger
 
 

This is one of those build logs that always makes me smile! Thank you, Giampiero.

I only had the logbooks for those narrow dates that I suspected the interactions with the Wasp. Sorry ...

I only had the logbooks for those narrow dates that I suspected the interactions with the Wasp. Sorry ...

Here's an interesting alternative fate from The Niles Weekly Register, a national newspaper, dated June 4, 1825:
 
"The Wasp, sloop of war, Captain Blakeley, was remarkably successful in annoying the British during the the late war, and captured one sloop of the enemy and sunk another. The last account he had of her was, that, on September 23, 1814 she was off the Madeira Islands, and it has been ever since supposed that she has foundered at sea, whereby the whole of her officers and crew perished, and no trace was left of her.
 
The Spring Grove , whale ship, was lost on the African coast on the 23rd November last and some of the crew have been rescued from the Arabs, by that distinguished philanthropist, Mr. Wilshire, the British Counsel at Mogadore In the account of the affair there, is the following paragraph.
 
'A circumstance is related by one of the rescued men, which is as follows -  They said that the Arab chief in whose hands they fell, could speak a little English; and contrived to inform them, that, some years ago, and English ship was lost on the African Coast, that the crew reached the shore to the number of three hundred men, well armed; that his own tribe consisting of five hundred men, attacked them and were repulsed; that he solicited the assistance of a neighboring tribe to renew the attack, with an additional force of four to five hundred men; that the British drove them back a second time, and were making good their retreat for some settlement of security, when they were a third time surrounded by a body of thirteen hundred men; and that the British fought till three-fourths of their numbers fell; and the remainder were cut to pieces after laying down their arms, and after killing 250 Arabs. The name of the ship and the time of the shipwreck are unknown.
 
It will appear very possible, and even probably to everyone, on reading this paragraph, that we have just learned the probable fate of our gallant countrymen. The Americans might easily have been mistaken, by the Arabs, for Englishmen. The amount given as the strength of the crew is greater than the Wasp had, but she may have had some recent captures and have had many prisoners on board - who in the case of a shipwreck , and attack by Arabs,  would have made a common cause with her officers and crew. There would be melancholy satisfaction in ascertaining the certainty  of what is now supposed to have been the fate of the gallant Blakeley and his gallant crew."
 
This story was quoted from the rival publication, "The National Intelligencer", and their editors dismissed the story as probably just an old tale, it being similar to one they printed back in 1800, but the Niles Register's editors thought it legitimate, having come from English Council Wilshire.

"Mom, what's a magazine?"

Too bad about Rogers III being cancelled. I really wanted to read about the Swan class sloop, the Frigate Shannon, and the Fair American models.

What was the Saranac, other than a River? I’ve drawn a total blank here ...

What was the Saranac, other than a River? I’ve drawn a total blank here ...

What was the Saranac, other than a River? I’ve drawn a total blank here ...

It is worth the wait and every penny invested. The work of the authors Adrián Sorolla and Fermín Urtizberea of the Ancre publishing house, meets all expectations in a pleasant and specialized reading, it gives us absolutely everything we need to fully build a model of the Mahonesa frigate. We only regret that it is in booklet format, the content of this work deserved to be hardcover in the style of Seawachtbook books. In short, absolutely recommended.

The USS Delaware scratch built in 1/72 is 99.9% done. I will need to go over it closely a few more times to touch up paint here and there. Add a few more rope coils to the ship's boats tie off pins. Touch up the coppering and smooth it down where is has curled up from handling.

I just spent HOURS reading through this topic. I was putting together a presentation for my modeling group about the Battle of Turtle Gut Inlet and modeling the ships that took part in it. 
The ships I could NOT find any hope of plans for were the following:
Wasp (the first one)
Reprisal (Wickes ship that delivered Ben Franklin to France)
the Brig Nancy
 
Most of the British vessels were fairly easy to find plans on. The HMS Liverpool is a very lovely ship BTW.
The topic on the Lexington has been pretty worn through in this forum, however. I feel that the practicum offered by NRG is very likely on the money for the true Lexington. 
 
The reasons for the lack of plans seems typical for many of the American yards seems pretty normal. I did take a trip to downtown Philadelphia to visit the PA Historical Society where the yard logs of Humphreys are still held in excellent shape which can be personally reviewed at special tables. Here are some pics of the logs from my visit. These images are the copyrighted property of the PA Historical Society and can only be posted here for scholarly/research purposes. Please don't repost anywhere else.

I always thought that O'Brien was looking at the Fair American Model - another old-fashioned quarter-decked brig - when he wrote his first Aubrey novel.

I always thought that O'Brien was looking at the Fair American Model - another old-fashioned quarter-decked brig - when he wrote his first Aubrey novel.

I always thought that O'Brien was looking at the Fair American Model - another old-fashioned quarter-decked brig - when he wrote his first Aubrey novel.

Tom, thank goodness she looks like her mother..... All kidding aside, a very nice looking daughter and her family photo, you should be extremely proud. 

Easier to replace when they get damaged?
 
  Danny

Hi
 
I am pleased to announce that after a long wait, the monograph of Mahonesa is now available at ANCRE.
This is a Spanish frigate from the late 18th century, built by the engineer Onorato de Bouyon, in the arseal of Mahón, on the island of Menorca, Baleares - Spain.
The monograph includes all the carpentry plans to be able to make a model of arsenal, a book of 170 pages with the history of the frigate, explanations for its construction, the comments of the plans and the disembodiment of all its rigging.
 
The purchase link at ANCRE:
https://ancre.fr/en/monograph/123-la-mahonesa-fregates-espagnoles-1789-9782382820131.html
Currently available in French, Italian and Spanish, 
Available in English from February 22, 2022
 

 
It was a long wait, but in the end it was published, I hope the work I have done with enthusiasm will be to your liking.
 
Adrián Sorolla
 
 
 
 

Did you know that the following phrase, describing president Theodore Roosevelt , “a man a plan a canal Panama”, reads the same frontwards and backwards?