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Jparsely,

 

I'm sorry I took so long to answer your insightful question about coppering the bottom. I just read the The Battle off Spanish River, on July 21, 1781. The site: awaitsea.com, gives the British and French versions of the battle. The French ships, L'Hermione and L'Estree, were described as coppered and uncommonly fast.

 

post-14120-0-23446400-1437454279_thumb.jpg L'Hermione is labeled as B, but sped right past A, L'Estree.

 

I didn't plan on coppering the bottom of L'Hermione. I wanted to show off the beautiful wood planks. But I am NOW toying with the idea of showing the waterline with weathered copper, hmmmm.

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Bob

 

"Even while the storm raged at it's worst, my ship was wholesome and noble." - Captain Joshua Slocum

 

 

Current Builds:

L'Hermione 1780 - 1:89 - Artesania Latina   http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10261-hermione-la-fayette-1780-by-bobstrake-artesania-latina-scale-189/#entry305929<p>

 

Louise - 1:26 - Constructo  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11855-louise-by-bobstrake-constructo-scale-126/?p=360370
 

Completed Builds:

Carmen 1850 - 1:80 - Constructo - First Build   http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10398-carmen-1850-by-bobstrake-constructo-scale-180/#entry31137

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My progress is slow, but stimulating.

 

The strakes are added at an impercepable rate.

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I am experimenting at putting windows in the gallery, and tried using thread to maximize viewing the interior. I am dissatisfied with the final quality control, so will tear this out and try again. Good practice.

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Brian (GuntherMT) kindly chided me for not completing the Carmen yet, and I have one excuse, lack of will power. I love working with wood, but I haven't even been able to make friends with the needle and thread. I can stand only an hour at a time cursing, I mean, sewing the sails.

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Bob

 

"Even while the storm raged at it's worst, my ship was wholesome and noble." - Captain Joshua Slocum

 

 

Current Builds:

L'Hermione 1780 - 1:89 - Artesania Latina   http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10261-hermione-la-fayette-1780-by-bobstrake-artesania-latina-scale-189/#entry305929<p>

 

Louise - 1:26 - Constructo  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11855-louise-by-bobstrake-constructo-scale-126/?p=360370
 

Completed Builds:

Carmen 1850 - 1:80 - Constructo - First Build   http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10398-carmen-1850-by-bobstrake-constructo-scale-180/#entry31137

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I feel you on the sails Bob, that's why I didn't add them to my Carmen.

 

The windows look fantastic to me, if they don't meet your quality requirements, then your 'acceptable' ones should be marvelous.

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Looking awesome Bob! I hear you with the sails. I've done exactly 4 sails to date and they are tedious and time consuming. There's a lady in here that has been working on a junk boat with three sails. She said it was third set of sail before she was happy with the results. There are some threads in here for making furled sails that are much easier than making the whole sail. Everything looks exceptional.

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Hi Bob,

 

It's coming along nicely! I am about to begin planking myself.

Keep up the good work!

Nick :cheers:

 

Model building Projects in progress:

      - Hermione la Fayette, Artesania Latina:

          - LINK TO Forum (MSW): http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2649-hermione-la-fayette-by-nickvn-artesania-latina-second-wooden-ship-built/page-1

          - LINK TO Photo album (dutch website): https://modelbrouwers.nl/albums/album/11697/

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Nick,

 

It's good to hear from you. I look forward to your posts.

 

I'm very pleased to see that the cast parts are so much better than those depicted on the kit's packaging.post-14120-0-16766100-1437867091_thumb.jpg

 

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I removed the windows and fiddled with the gallery. I didn't want it to be garish, but it looks like it is.

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Now back to planking and making windows

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Bob

 

"Even while the storm raged at it's worst, my ship was wholesome and noble." - Captain Joshua Slocum

 

 

Current Builds:

L'Hermione 1780 - 1:89 - Artesania Latina   http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10261-hermione-la-fayette-1780-by-bobstrake-artesania-latina-scale-189/#entry305929<p>

 

Louise - 1:26 - Constructo  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11855-louise-by-bobstrake-constructo-scale-126/?p=360370
 

Completed Builds:

Carmen 1850 - 1:80 - Constructo - First Build   http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10398-carmen-1850-by-bobstrake-constructo-scale-180/#entry31137

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Boyd, Brian and Matt.ss,

 

I think I have figured it out. We can't bear to see these builds end, so we keep adding fun details, or insanely decide to sew sails.

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Bob

 

"Even while the storm raged at it's worst, my ship was wholesome and noble." - Captain Joshua Slocum

 

 

Current Builds:

L'Hermione 1780 - 1:89 - Artesania Latina   http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10261-hermione-la-fayette-1780-by-bobstrake-artesania-latina-scale-189/#entry305929<p>

 

Louise - 1:26 - Constructo  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11855-louise-by-bobstrake-constructo-scale-126/?p=360370
 

Completed Builds:

Carmen 1850 - 1:80 - Constructo - First Build   http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10398-carmen-1850-by-bobstrake-constructo-scale-180/#entry31137

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Bob,

 

You just gave the "secret" away....  :D  :D :D  

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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I just can't leave it alone. Worked on the colors, put the correct number of window panes this time, and test fitted the cast pieces. Getting closer...

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I'll try try fitting each of the 8 windows with clear styrene squares, and maybe won't get glue spots on the panes this time.

 

Oh yeah, and I made the window panes with thread that was reinforced with super thin cyano.

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Bob

 

"Even while the storm raged at it's worst, my ship was wholesome and noble." - Captain Joshua Slocum

 

 

Current Builds:

L'Hermione 1780 - 1:89 - Artesania Latina   http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10261-hermione-la-fayette-1780-by-bobstrake-artesania-latina-scale-189/#entry305929<p>

 

Louise - 1:26 - Constructo  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11855-louise-by-bobstrake-constructo-scale-126/?p=360370
 

Completed Builds:

Carmen 1850 - 1:80 - Constructo - First Build   http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10398-carmen-1850-by-bobstrake-constructo-scale-180/#entry31137

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Bob,

 

Think about canopy cement from the local hobby shop.  That stuff doesn't craze or fog the clear plastic.

 

I like the way your stern is shaping up.

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Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

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Wow Bob, that looks awesome! So this is where the AWOL squirrels are hanging out!

Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer

 

Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt

 

Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt

HMS Bounty Launch by Matt

18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt

18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt

 

Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS)

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Mark,

 

My first try was with canopy cement. Seems I cut too big a hole in the end, and didn't expect it to blast out. Clutz on the loose! Just part of the fun and learning curve. By the way, it doesn't taste like much, and cleans off glasses well.

 

 

Matt.ss,

 

The squirrels are always welcome here.

Bob

 

"Even while the storm raged at it's worst, my ship was wholesome and noble." - Captain Joshua Slocum

 

 

Current Builds:

L'Hermione 1780 - 1:89 - Artesania Latina   http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10261-hermione-la-fayette-1780-by-bobstrake-artesania-latina-scale-189/#entry305929<p>

 

Louise - 1:26 - Constructo  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11855-louise-by-bobstrake-constructo-scale-126/?p=360370
 

Completed Builds:

Carmen 1850 - 1:80 - Constructo - First Build   http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10398-carmen-1850-by-bobstrake-constructo-scale-180/#entry31137

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Amazing Bob! 

Those windows are looking very good! I hope I can get mine so good as yours.

Nick :cheers:

 

Model building Projects in progress:

      - Hermione la Fayette, Artesania Latina:

          - LINK TO Forum (MSW): http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/2649-hermione-la-fayette-by-nickvn-artesania-latina-second-wooden-ship-built/page-1

          - LINK TO Photo album (dutch website): https://modelbrouwers.nl/albums/album/11697/

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Bob, put a little drop of canopy cement on a small palette and then apply it with a pin or even an opened paperclip. No muss, no fuss. ;):)

Ken

Started: MS Bounty Longboat,

On Hold:  Heinkel USS Choctaw paper

Down the road: Shipyard HMC Alert 1/96 paper, Mamoli Constitution Cross, MS USN Picket Boat #1

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Ken,

I followed your instructions exactly to install the windows and had much better results.  Thanks again.

 

Nick,

It's always good to compare our different takes on the same model.  Good to hear from you.

 

Aqueous1025 and hoff00,

I really appreciate your interest and kind words.

 

I've been dividing my time between 3 models.  I must be nuts.  I haven't had enough progress on L'Hermione to post updates until now.

I think I am satisfied with the rear gallery now. This is the best picture I could get with my old iPad.

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Subtle changes, but a lot of work to get them.

 

Planking proceeds slowly, so nothing much to show.  Beginning to work on ship's boats.

 

 

Bob

 

"Even while the storm raged at it's worst, my ship was wholesome and noble." - Captain Joshua Slocum

 

 

Current Builds:

L'Hermione 1780 - 1:89 - Artesania Latina   http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10261-hermione-la-fayette-1780-by-bobstrake-artesania-latina-scale-189/#entry305929<p>

 

Louise - 1:26 - Constructo  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11855-louise-by-bobstrake-constructo-scale-126/?p=360370
 

Completed Builds:

Carmen 1850 - 1:80 - Constructo - First Build   http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10398-carmen-1850-by-bobstrake-constructo-scale-180/#entry31137

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That came out great Bob.  You did an amazing job.  The windows are going to look so pretty on the boat.

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You may think you're slow with the planking, but it's worth it, it's looking very nice! And your gallery looks great - I can see one bright moment when everything comes together and it looks amazing!

Previously: Billings Marie Jeanne, Caldercraft HMS Cruiser, scratch Clyde puffer, card Consul Pust, card HMS Saumarez, Caldercraft HMS Ballahoo half-hull, bashed Bermuda trading schooner half-hull, scratch tug Hermes, Constructo Louise, Amati Bluenose, bashed Billings Norden 

 

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Your gallery looks amazing! And no, you're not nutz for multitasking. Keep breeding the squirrels, their little hand work wonder.

Matt - aka The Squirrel Whisperer

 

Current builds - Benjamin W. Latham by Matt

 

Competed builds - USS Ranger by Matt

HMS Bounty Launch by Matt

18th Century 10" Sea Mortar by Matt

18th Century Naval Smoothbore by Matt

 

Future builds - Willie L. Bennett Chesapeake Bay skipjack (MS) Half Moon (Corel) Emma C Berry Lobster Smack (MS)US Brigantine Eagle (Corel) New Bedford Whaleboat (MS)

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Hi Bob - 

 

Just linked back to your build.  Really good work on the kit.  Your stern gallery and lights came out very well, and the contrasting colors of the hull planks will really pop when you get a finish on them.  Quite remarkable when considering how fully stocked your shop is not.

 

A suggestion, if you don't mind - a dedicated digital camera, even one in the $200 range, will give you much better results and will let you see your work in much greater detail.  I know that I am always going back to the model after looking at my construction photos.

 

Best of success.  You're off to an excellent start.

 

Dan

Current build -SS Mayaguez (c.1975) scale 1/16" = 1' (1:192) by Dan Pariser

 

Prior scratch builds - Royal yacht Henrietta, USS Monitor, USS Maine, HMS Pelican, SS America, SS Rex, SS Uruguay, Viking knarr, Gokstad ship, Thames River Skiff , USS OneidaSwan 42 racing yacht  Queen Anne's Revenge (1710) SS Andrea Doria (1952), SS Michelangelo (1962) , Queen Anne's Revenge (2nd model) USS/SS Leviathan (1914),  James B Colgate (1892),  POW bone model (circa 1800) restoration

 

Prior kit builds - AL Dallas, Mamoli Bounty. Bluejacket America, North River Diligence, Airfix Sovereign of the Seas

 

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I appreciate your suggestion of a better camera. I have been dissatisfied by the quality of the ipad photos.

Bob

 

"Even while the storm raged at it's worst, my ship was wholesome and noble." - Captain Joshua Slocum

 

 

Current Builds:

L'Hermione 1780 - 1:89 - Artesania Latina   http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10261-hermione-la-fayette-1780-by-bobstrake-artesania-latina-scale-189/#entry305929<p>

 

Louise - 1:26 - Constructo  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11855-louise-by-bobstrake-constructo-scale-126/?p=360370
 

Completed Builds:

Carmen 1850 - 1:80 - Constructo - First Build   http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10398-carmen-1850-by-bobstrake-constructo-scale-180/#entry31137

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Finally got a new camera on eBay.  Re-took the last picture.  I still need to learn how to get the most out of it, but here is my first effort.

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And here's the latest in the slow progression of planking.

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Bob

 

"Even while the storm raged at it's worst, my ship was wholesome and noble." - Captain Joshua Slocum

 

 

Current Builds:

L'Hermione 1780 - 1:89 - Artesania Latina   http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10261-hermione-la-fayette-1780-by-bobstrake-artesania-latina-scale-189/#entry305929<p>

 

Louise - 1:26 - Constructo  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11855-louise-by-bobstrake-constructo-scale-126/?p=360370
 

Completed Builds:

Carmen 1850 - 1:80 - Constructo - First Build   http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10398-carmen-1850-by-bobstrake-constructo-scale-180/#entry31137

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Nice pictures.  New toys are awesome what kind of camera did you get??  The planking looks really really nice.

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Boyd and Aqueoous1025,

 

Glad to hear from you. I got a mint used Samsung DigimaxL85 for $20. It seems to be working well. Now I just have to figure out how to best use it. We'll see.

 

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Bob

 

"Even while the storm raged at it's worst, my ship was wholesome and noble." - Captain Joshua Slocum

 

 

Current Builds:

L'Hermione 1780 - 1:89 - Artesania Latina   http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10261-hermione-la-fayette-1780-by-bobstrake-artesania-latina-scale-189/#entry305929<p>

 

Louise - 1:26 - Constructo  http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/11855-louise-by-bobstrake-constructo-scale-126/?p=360370
 

Completed Builds:

Carmen 1850 - 1:80 - Constructo - First Build   http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/10398-carmen-1850-by-bobstrake-constructo-scale-180/#entry31137

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bob ,first good job!

twice: if u  build the actualy hermione like i suppose (the color) you must built the security equipment and also the two pods for propulsion

the sculpture in the kit are wrong  and the éléments of the  deck too!

 

i will follow your progress...

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Congrats to your new camera Bob,

 

the way of creating JPG files of pics so fast and easy provides much fun and they can be posted or attached to emails as you desire...

 

Your  "Hermione La Fayette" has had a great start, and the planking Looks very nicely done, will like to see more soon

 

Nils

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