HMS Warrior 1860 by Philg88 - Billing Boats - 1:100 - First British Ironclad with scratch built side heads per prototype

[Philg88]

10 hours ago, BANYAN said:

Just found this build Phil, sorry to crash the scene so late - hope you don't mind me tagging along. 

 

I am building HMCSS Victoria (1855) which had some common equipment etc to Warrior - see my log at: 

I will be very interested to see how you approach a couple of items such as the catheads which have a much sharper than usual angle of rise.  

 

You  have made a great job  on what you have completed on a very interesting build (and large)

 

cheers

 

Pat

 

 

Welcome along Pat, or should that be aboard

 

Hope you find some useful stuff for your build as things progress.

 

Cheers,

 

Philip

[popeye the sailor]

great progress...........she looks really good !  

[BANYAN]

Thanks Phillip, kitbag stowed and hammock lashed in the forward berthing space

 

cheers

 

Pat

[Philg88]

Planking complete, phew, as the late Cilla Black might say "That's a lorra lorra planks!

 

Trickiest part is around the propeller well (which will be trimmed back flush) so apologies for the filler.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[popeye the sailor]

painted or coppered.......the filler is no problem.   she's a big beautiful girl    planking looks great!

[BANYAN]

Nice progress Phillip, even at 1:100 she is a might big model (with plenty of planks).  

 

cheers

 

Pat

[Philg88]

Hi All,

Internal gunwales and deck channels added ...

Propeller and rudder completed. I modified the hinge of the latter using 5mm brass tube fashioned into faux hinges with the horizontal supports cut from .5mm plasticard and run over with a pounce wheel to simulate rivets. The porthole surrounds are 4mm eyelets painted gunmetal and glued in.

 

And a couple of general views showing the paintwork.

 

 

 

 

 

[popeye the sailor]

she look awesome.........truly great progress!     decking and paint looks great!

[clearway]

From Victory to Warrior- that's some form of sado-masochism phil. looking good though.

 

Keith

[BANYAN]

Nice progress Phil; she is looking great.  Well, your next build will have to be Mary Rose then you would replicate the Portsmouth museum ships  

 

cheers

 

Pat

[Philg88]

7 hours ago, BANYAN said:

Nice progress Phil; she is looking great.  Well, your next build will have to be Mary Rose then you would replicate the Portsmouth museum ships  

 

cheers

 

Pat

Thanks Pat, but after rigging the current two I think a ship with no masts is more likely. Possibly something like this.

best

 

Philip

[BANYAN]

That will be another very nice build Phil; look forward to it 

 

cheers

 

Pat

[StuartC]

Hi Phil,

 

Just caught up with your build, she's coming along really well 

 

Cheers

 

Stuart.

[Philg88]

Thanks for the kind comments guys,

 

Some more progress ...

 

Lower hand rail going on

Beakhead progess ...

 

62 upper rail supports fitted - these were held in position with tape then CAed into place, very fiddly. Note chain boards and belaying pin racks also fitted.

 

That's about it for now.

[clearway]

Looking good... and huge! nearly bought this myself but settled for billings hms bounty instead as aiafter building their cutty sark and now victory space is at a premium

 

Keith

[Gerhardvienna]

Hi Philip

 

Looking really good!

BUT...............

I would make a slight change on the propeller, a prop with that shape will give no speed, but only swirl water. If there is a way to make the change, I would. Sorry for beeing late with that!

 

Regards

Gerhard

[Philg88]

1 hour ago, Gerhardvienna said:

Hi Philip

 

Looking really good!

BUT...............

I would make a slight change on the propeller, a prop with that shape will give no speed, but only swirl water. If there is a way to make the change, I would. Sorry for beeing late with that!

 

Regards

Gerhard

Thanks Gerhard,

I see what you mean. I think the blades should be mounted at 45% to the shaft. I will try and fix but it may not be doable without damage in which case it will have to stay as it is.

Best,

Philip

[Gerhardvienna]

Hi Philip

Dont PLEASE do any damage to this beauty! If it`s not able to make the change, keep it as it is, better than a smashed ship!

 

Regards

Gerhard

[BANYAN]

Hi Phillip and Gerhard,  I would leave them Phil - I am pretty sure she was fitted with a feathering propeller and the pitch would have been close to zero when not needed (such as in port or when under sail alone) - depends on how you would like to depict her.  I had the same problem to contemplate when fitting the prop to 'Victoria" and ended up going for zero pitch as she will no be modelled with sails or underway.  This is just a suggestion - your model,  so please depict her how you wish.

 

Nice work with the progress you have made, she is really starting to take shape.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[Gerhardvienna]

5 minutes ago, BANYAN said:

Hi Phillip and Gerhard,  I would leave them Phil - I am pretty sure she was fitted with a feathering propeller and the pitch would have been close to zero when not needed (such as in port or when under sail alone) - depends on how you would like to depict her.

cheers

Pat

Hi Pat

This would declare why they made it that way. When there was a pitch control, so the "Zero" position will be allright for sailing! Well seen and explained, thank you!

 

Regards

Gerhard

[MESSIS]

Simply : beautifull!

Great work philg88.

 

Is it the ship Warrior found now in Portsmouth?

Christos

[Philg88]

16 minutes ago, MESSIS said:

Simply : beautifull!

Great work philg88.

 

Is it the ship Warrior found now in Portsmouth?

Christos

Hi Christos,

 

Thanks. Yes, she is in Portsmouth. There is a webcam at the top of her mast from which you can see the Victory moored not far away. Link is here.

 

Cheers

[Philg88]

OK, Having checked the reference books I have, there was definitely a pitch on the propeller. So I've modified the blades, thankfully with no damage. As a side note, the propeller pitch wasn't adjustable - when the ship was under sail it would be hauled up into the well in the stern. As the model is in steam mode (because the funnels are up) the representation of the propeller is now correct.

 

Thanks for the input guys!

 

Best,

Philip

 

[Gerhardvienna]

Hi Philip

 

Well Done! Now the prop looks much better, good job.

 

Regards

Gerhard

[popeye the sailor]

wonderful progress Philip,  she's look'in really nice!     good you were able to change the prop......looks good'n proper  

[BANYAN]

Nice recovery Phil.  That is a surprise a ship of this era without feathering props :), great that you have good references to check this detail.

 

cheers

 

Pat

[MESSIS]

Very good! The prop... ! How did you got that blueish colour out of the windows? 

[Philg88]

1 minute ago, MESSIS said:

Very good! The prop... ! How did you got that blueish colour out of the windows? 

Thanks for pointing that out, I hadn't noticed it! Weird, must be a reflection from something as the acetate in the windows is clear.

 

Cheers,

 

Philip

[Philg88]

Made jigs for each of the chain plate groups out of 2x1 timber and brass wire (80 in total). Port side is done and the upper double handrail fitted.

[popeye the sailor]

 is there to be any type of fastenings done to those brackets?   I'm imagining the dead eyes are attached to them.