Robin Lous Posted September 27, 2016 Author #121 Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) Lovely weather today, so I moved outside with my build, a file, a sanding stick and an americano cocktail. Finished the lower oar-holes and started with the top holes. Insert: For Bob...a better Hennessy wood stain photo. The top oar-holes are actually half round cups. I'll make horizontal beams underneath the oar-holes with tholepins (wooden pegs). Checking the oar-hole placement with cocktail sticks. More soon, Robin Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous Red, EJ_L, cog and 7 others 10 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
cobra1951 Posted September 28, 2016 #122 Posted September 28, 2016 Very nice work on the oar holes. Thanks for the colour insert, looks almost the same as the light teak I have foxy, Robin Lous, EJ_L and 3 others 6 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
Louie da fly Posted September 28, 2016 #123 Posted September 28, 2016 That's a very elegant shape. And the holes are beautifully exact. Steven Red, foxy, Robin Lous and 2 others 5 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht
Robin Lous Posted September 28, 2016 Author #124 Posted September 28, 2016 (edited) Thanks Bob and Steven! Quote ...and the holes are beautifully exact I was just thinking about this myself and I came to the conclusion...the wood of the hull planks is just amazing....really fantastic wood. And again...no idea what kind of wood it is...I'll ask Daniel Dusek, because I'm curious about it. It's so easy to sand it smooth and file sharp looking holes. The wood is kinda hard...not soft whatsoever. When you sand or file...it takes effort to get it done, but no fuzzy rough edges, no splinters or chipping. Still fairly easy to bend when wet. I was a bit scared about the oar-holes, because there's no glue between the planks. They're only glued to the frames. Perhaps the files I use have some magic in them....they're almost 40 years old, but they never let me down. Good old pre-rubbish files A bit more about the oar attachment and why I made the holes larger... The oar-holes are just that...holes...and they must be large enough to allow the oars to move freely. The oars are not even supposed to touch the wood around the holes. The holes don't support the oars. Behind the holes runs a beam with a copper sliding plate (to reduce friction) on it. That's the spot where the oars find their support. They're attached to a tholepin with a leather strap or piece of rope (the tholepin should be right next to the copper plate...me bad ) So I still have a lot of work to do on the inside More soon, Robin Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous WackoWolf, cog, Red and 4 others 7 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
cobra1951 Posted September 28, 2016 #125 Posted September 28, 2016 Yep the old tools are still the best EJ_L, mtaylor, Red and 2 others 5 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
Robin Lous Posted September 30, 2016 Author #126 Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) Made some progress. Varnished the deck and made planks on top of the forecastle. Working on the wales now. More soon, Robin Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous cobra1951, WackoWolf, Daniel Dusek and 5 others 8 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
cog Posted September 30, 2016 #127 Posted September 30, 2016 So now you can get to the lower deck with your whip, without having to touch the rowers She does start to look like a bireme. Love the way the bow turned out WackoWolf, mtaylor, EJ_L and 2 others 5 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
WackoWolf Posted September 30, 2016 #128 Posted September 30, 2016 Keep up the good work. You doing an excellent job, keep the post and pictures coming. Thank you for sharing with us. mtaylor, EJ_L, cobra1951 and 1 other 4 Quote Wacko Joe Go MSW :)
foxy Posted September 30, 2016 #129 Posted September 30, 2016 Cracking work Robin. That's really coming together nicely. Frank mtaylor, cobra1951 and Robin Lous 3 Quote
Robin Lous Posted September 30, 2016 Author #130 Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) Thanks guys! Finished the wales and rudder attachment point on one side. When the other side is done, I'll stain the hull...inside and outside. I'm eager to do the staining, because that will make the model much more attractive. I think...hope...well, we'll see. Also found a solution to paint the ship's eyes neatly. Looking forward to that also. Will be a challenge to keep the wale extending at the stern from breaking off More soon, Robin Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous Daniel Dusek, Nikiforos, cog and 4 others 7 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
cobra1951 Posted September 30, 2016 #131 Posted September 30, 2016 (edited) Nice work you are doing on her, even with all the alcohol you have in your work area Edited September 30, 2016 by Cobr@ mtaylor, EJ_L, cog and 2 others 5 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
Robin Lous Posted September 30, 2016 Author #132 Posted September 30, 2016 ...the wood of the hull planks is just amazing....really fantastic wood. And again...no idea what kind of wood it is...I'll ask Daniel Dusek, because I'm curious about it. Hello Robin, I follow your build and I like it .I produce the kit from differend kinds of wood, your version is from alder wood Best regards Daniel Good to know...I love it! Robin Nikiforos, mtaylor, cobra1951 and 2 others 5 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
Robin Lous Posted October 2, 2016 Author #133 Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) Today I finished the other side (wales and rudder attachment), cleaned and lightly sanded the hull...and did the first layer of Hennessy and ebony staining. Well...don't expect wonders after just one layer, but it gives an idea of what's happening. Tomorrow (well that's today, after some sleep ) I'll sand again and do the 2nd and 3rd layers. That will be enough for the Hennessy, but the ebony might need some more. We'll see. More soon, Robin Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous mtaylor, foxy, WackoWolf and 5 others 8 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
cobra1951 Posted October 2, 2016 #134 Posted October 2, 2016 I can just see Jason and his Argonauts sitting in it And you can never have enough Hennessey EJ_L, mtaylor, Robin Lous and 3 others 6 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
MESSIS Posted October 2, 2016 #135 Posted October 2, 2016 Nice colour! EJ_L, mtaylor and Robin Lous 3 Quote
Louie da fly Posted October 2, 2016 #136 Posted October 2, 2016 That's a very attractive colour for a very attractive vessel. How many of those wales does it have sticking out the back? Steven Robin Lous, EJ_L, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht
Robin Lous Posted October 2, 2016 Author #137 Posted October 2, 2016 Thanks! That's a very attractive colour for a very attractive vessel. How many of those wales does it have sticking out the back? Steven 2 right now...both top wales...there will be some more when the railing goes on. Since I can watch paint dry most of the day, I'll tidy my workspace a bit today. It's a mess right now and I need space to use my airbrush for the ships eye soon. Apart from staining, I'll make the copper oar beam plates. Furthermore...a lazy day. More soon, Robin cobra1951, EJ_L, mtaylor and 2 others 5 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
Robin Lous Posted October 2, 2016 Author #138 Posted October 2, 2016 (edited) After 3 layers of wood stain. It's a slow process, but I think it's nicer to stain than to paint. Also started staining the front of the bow. Painting with wood stain isn't easy, but with a small flat brush, it's doable. I think 2 more layers of Hennessy and 3 or 4 layers of ebony are needed to get the desired result. Working on this for 6 weeks now. I think I need 4 or 5 weeks more to finish it, but that's just a wild guess...no clue really. More soon, Robin Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous mtaylor, cog, EJ_L and 4 others 7 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
cobra1951 Posted October 2, 2016 #139 Posted October 2, 2016 Colour looks nice and rich now cog, mtaylor, Robin Lous and 1 other 4 Quote Bob Current Build HMB Endeavour - Occre 1:54 Completed Builds Section Deck Between Gun Bays - Panart 1:23 scale....x 2
foxy Posted October 2, 2016 #140 Posted October 2, 2016 Yes. cracking job Robin. Nice to see someone else likes a tipple now and then. Frank Robin Lous, mtaylor, EJ_L and 1 other 4 Quote
EJ_L Posted October 2, 2016 #141 Posted October 2, 2016 Beautiful coloring you are achieving on her Robin. I agree with you in that the staining looks better than paint. She is turning out to be a fine vessel. foxy, mtaylor, cobra1951 and 2 others 5 Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild
Robin Lous Posted October 3, 2016 Author #142 Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) Thanks again for the likes and nice comments! So with the staining done... ....It's time for the next chapter. The beams with the tholepins and the copper sliding plates. 2x2mm beams with dowels made from cocktail sticks...reduced to 0,8mm thickness and the copper plates made from burnished 0,15mm thick copper plate...cut into 4mm wide strips. 2 beams done...26 to go The amount of fiddly repetitive jobs is stacking now. This, the top rower seats and the 50 (+8 spares) oars. It's a bullet to bite....a whole box I'll squeeze in some nice in between jobs somewhere...like making the rudders. More soon, Robin Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous Nikiforos, zoly99sask, Daniel Dusek and 9 others 12 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
cog Posted October 3, 2016 #143 Posted October 3, 2016 Looks promising, what a tooth pick can be used for ... The amount of fiddly repetitive jobs is stacking now. This, the top rower seats and the 50 (+8 spares) oars. It's a bullet to bite....a whole box I'll squeeze in some nice in between jobs somewhere...like making the rudders You could make soft cushions for the rowers, embroidered ... as a change in the monotonous tasks .. cobra1951, EJ_L, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
Robin Lous Posted October 3, 2016 Author #144 Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) On 3-10-2016 at 11:28 PM, cog said: Looks promising, what a tooth pick can be used for ... You could make soft cushions for the rowers, embroidered ... as a change in the monotonous tasks .. No kidding...that crossed my mind...sheepskin cushions, but since the cushions were not part of the ship (the oarsmen brought their own cushions with them)...I won't I must be half crazy, because yesterday I ordered a trireme. This one has 50 oars...the trireme 170! By the way...Daniel Dusek is a great guy to deal with. The bireme has alder wood hull planks and I like them a lot, so I asked Daniel about the trireme hull planks.... they're walnut. I get a "custom *Stratocaster trireme kit" with alder wood planks from him now. *Fender makes great guitars from alder wood.... Well...when my builds won't look good...they still sound good! Robin Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous cog, EJ_L, Nikiforos and 6 others 9 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
CDW Posted October 3, 2016 #145 Posted October 3, 2016 Robin Man, I love this model. So clean and neat. The finish is just phenomenal! Robin Lous, mtaylor, cobra1951 and 2 others 5 Quote Completed Projects: USS Fletcher 1:144 Scharnhorst 1:350 USS Independence LCS-2 1:350 1:32 J7W1 Shinden Interceptor/Fighter Fairey Swordfish Mk. II 1:48 Harbor Tug Box Scale Albatros D.V 1:32 Ala-Kart 1:25 Ferrari 250 GT California Spyder 1:24 S-100 Schnellboot 1:72 Mercury Capsule and Atlas Booster BR-52 Steam Locomotive 1:35 Triumph 3 HW Motorcycle 1:9 Scale F-16XL-2 Experimental Fighter Bomber 1:48 Rafale 1:48 F-15E Strike Eagle 1:48 Petlyakov PE-2 Soviet Dive Bomber 1:48 TBM3 Avenger 1:32 1931 Cadillac 1:25 Scammell Pioneer SV2S Heavy Breakdown Tractor 1:35 M-50 Israeli Sherman 1:35 Military Wrecker 1:32 Delahaye 135 1:24 Toyota Sard Supra GT 1:24 Enzo Ferrari 1:24 1970 Baldwin Motion Camaro 1:25 1966 Ford Galaxie 500 Stock Car 1:25 American LaFrance Eagle Fire Pumper 1:25 1940 Ford Standard Coupe 1:25 VolksWagen Dragster/Dune Buggy/Street Rod 1:25 Kawasaki Ninja H2 Carbon 1:12 Porsche GT-1 Evo 1:24 Scharnhorst 1940 1:700 IJN Akitsushima Seaplane Tender 1:700 HMS Hood 1941 1:700 Prinz Eugen 1942 1:700
Robin Lous Posted October 3, 2016 Author #146 Posted October 3, 2016 Robin Man, I love this model. So clean and neat. The finish is just phenomenal! Oh...there are flaws and mistakes here and there But, I'm pleased with it so far...completely to my own amazement. I never worked with wood before, but I'm used to work with small plastic, resin and photo etched parts....and I can handle a brush (and airbrush). What I like about wood...it's forgiving and it doesn't matter when you mess up a plank...just pick another and start again. With plastic it can be a drama when you mess up a single part. So...I have loads of fun now WackoWolf, cog, EJ_L and 2 others 5 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
EJ_L Posted October 4, 2016 #147 Posted October 4, 2016 Robin, your ship is looking fantastic! There may be flaws but the good quality and craftsmanship you are showing far outdo any flaws. I had to do a double take on your first picture as I thought your ship was flying! I'm no history major but I was fairly certain that the ancient Greeks, nor the modern ones for that matter learned to make a ship fly. Maybe I'm more tired after today than I thought. WackoWolf, cobra1951, Robin Lous and 2 others 5 Quote "A Smooth Sea NEVER made a Skilled Sailor" - John George Hermanson -E.J. Current Builds - Royal Louis - Mamoli Royal Caroline - Panart Completed - Wood - Le Soleil Royal - Sergal - Build Log & Gallery La Couronne - Corel - Build Log & Gallery Rattlesnake - Model Shipways, HMS Bounty - Constructo Plastic - USS Constitution - Revel (twice), Cutty Sark. Unfinished - Plastic - HMS Victory - Heller, Sea Witch. Member : Nautical Research Guild
Louie da fly Posted October 4, 2016 #148 Posted October 4, 2016 I must be half crazy, because yesterday I ordered a trireme. This one has 50 oars...the trireme 170! Robin That's for sure. And I was feeling bad because I have to make 100. You are a glutton for punishment, Robin. Steven mtaylor, cobra1951, Robin Lous and 1 other 4 Quote It's not really a ship model unless you've bled on it. CURRENT BUILDS Golden City - Ballarat paddlewheeler La Lomellina - Theoretical Reconstruction of a Genoese carrack sunk in 1516 FINISHED Venetian merchant Ship from Basilica of San Marco Australian couta boat RMS Titanic HMVS Cerberus 11th century Byzantine dromon Winchelsea Nef - Late 13th century Mediaeval ship Henry Grace a Dieu - Rebuild of 1:200 model I started in 1967 Mistydeefer - restoration of decor model yacht
Robin Lous Posted October 5, 2016 Author #149 Posted October 5, 2016 (edited) One side done....that wasn't too time consuming after all. Not to lose momentum...I'll do the other side also now, so no "in between" job needed. It's good to have those beams there. 2 stays on each side need to go there. A near-death experience today, when my magnifying lamp crashed down on top of my poor bireme Luckily only some minor damage. 2 broken tholepins and a piece of top wale snapped off. I repaired the damage already, but I'll be more careful from now on. It's a sturdy ship, but not immortal Edit: forgot to mention...I stained the lower inside of the hull "dark smoked oak"....the cherry looked wrong there. More soon! Robin Edited September 19, 2017 by Robin Lous WackoWolf, zoly99sask, Red and 8 others 11 Quote WIP: No ships atm...sorry!🙄 Completed: Greek bireme - Dusek - scale 1:72 Louie da fly: "I think it requires a special kind of insanity to choose a galley to build a model of."
cog Posted October 5, 2016 #150 Posted October 5, 2016 Shares in a liquor store Nice work on those beams, nearly ready to get the oars manned mtaylor, WackoWolf, cobra1951 and 2 others 5 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ...
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