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Hello one and all,

                          I'm one model in from a brand new newbie, I have just completed the Emma C. Berry and now waiting anxiously for Model Shipways Chaperon Sternwheel 1:48 scale to arrive. The Emma was a pleasure to build from opening the box to cleaning my brushes and packing away my paints.

 I'm also new to boats so I'll be looking for some advise to help me along.

 

I have a plan as too how I want it to look but like all good plans things change if the bar was set a little to high. My intent is to do the following:-

 

Build the kit as is 'out the box' with the well documented modifications to the pilot house windows and a few other changes that are still tbd. I plan to add more detailing and hopefully some suitable cargo, I'll see how it goes.

 

Aging and weathering the Chaperon will also be a fun task. This is something else I have never tackled however I used to paint oil on canvas pictures many years ago so I hope I still have a modest flair with a brush.

 

Last but not least I hope to identify the pitfalls and issues for other new builders to heed and hopefully there may be a few out there with a similar build to bounce ideas around. I obviously welcome any and all hints and tips from anyone who graciously follows this build log and sincerely hope it is useful and fun to  follow.

 

Special thanks to Kurt Van Dahm for getting me kicked off in the right direction, very much appreciated.

 

Finally, all I need now is a model it was shipped on the 3rd Jan so likely steaming it's way up the Green River as I type.

 

Thanks for reading, hope to cross paths soon.

 

Len aka Blighty.

 

 

 

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Hi Len,

 

If you haven't, search on Chaperon or even riverboat here in MSW.  You should find builds.. both modified and out of the box of various riverboats.  It might be big help for ideas and also some of the pitfalls.

Mark
"The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me

Current Build:                                                                                             
Past Builds:
 La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD           Triton Cross-Section   

 NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit                                                                            HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64               

 

Non-Ship Model:                                                                                         On hold, maybe forever:           

CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed                                                   Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)         

         

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

Posted

Great project choice! I'm glad you've been talking to Kurt, he'll be an invaluable help. Make sure to check out Mike Dowling's recently completed Chaperon build; he did a great job with lots of useful insight about the kit.

Posted

Hi Cathead, I have been studying with great interest Mike Dowling's build, he did a great job and he certainly enjoyed his efforts and the obvious success of his build log, it was a major factor in my decision to choose the Chaperon. (Thx Mike, where ever you are).

I also checked out your amazing scratch build of the Bertrand, beautiful craftsmanship, beautiful model. I'm inspired.

Posted

Me again,

                Still waiting for my parcel to arrive, I did a quick check on tracking status last night, it's cleared customs in Toronto and must surely be steaming along North shore of Lake Eerie about now, maybe even in Detroit River.

 Meanwhile, I've been collecting ideas and reading up on turn of the century river boats, it's not difficult to see why there are so many avid fans of these awesome ships.

 But for now, I have to kick the cat off the window sill, take up his spot and lookout for the USPS van.

 

Len

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.............and so it begins, I'm checking out the model on the kitchen island. Packaging was good, double boxed with paper packing between the boxes. Delving in, the box is crammed full of goodies, I just had a quick check over to ensure that everything was there, that looked fine and the quality of the laser cut parts appeared fine too. I did cut the keel and bulkheads out to check the fit and parts went together snugly, exactly as expected.

 

The instruction sheets were primarily Isometric exploded views supported with true views of most sub assemblies. Reminiscent of plastic build model instructions, they do not look difficult to follow.This looks a great model and does not appear too intimidating to a relative rooky like me.

 

I cleaned the joints of char from the 3 piece keel butt joints and glued and clamped it for tomorrow. There are no pics worth posting right now but as the build develops I'm sure there will be plenty to show and discuss.

 

Hope you can make the trip.

 

Len

 

 

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I have started installing the bulkheads per instructions, self locating and little effort required to align. Whilst that assembly is set to the side to dry.

  I have started work on the deck. I've elected to assemble the 4 piece deck off the hull and on my flat work top, having read that a few matchup issues were found in past builds when trying to piece together the deck on the hull, this would be a result of the curved deck surface of the hull I assume.

With the deck laid out flat it was an opportune time to add my first mod, an access hole to service below deck hardware, namely the capstan. Scaled size is approx. 4 x 3 feet.

 

 

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Good start Len!  Exciting to be building isn't it.  When I finally got to the point where my hull was planked and smoothed I just wanted to hold the model for a while - it felt so nice to be able to handle it. Of course, next stages of construction - adding the bits and pieces mean you have to be careful again!

 

Doug 

Doug

Current BuildsBluenose II - AKrabbenkutter / Prince de Neufchatel / Essex Cross-section / Syren / Barque Stefano / Winchelsea / Half Hull / Maria HF31 - Dusek / Bandirma - Turkmodel

On the Shelf: Santisima Trinidad and Cross Section / HMS Cutter Alert / Tender AVOS / Confederacy

Suspended Build: Bluenose II - Billing Boats Nr 600 

Posted

Judging by that last image, I suspect you'll want to start tapering and/or bending those planks near the bow. It looks like your planks are starting to want to pull away from the frames a bit.

 

It's definitely a lot of fun to feel a hull coming together.

Posted

Hi Cathead,

                  Yep, getting lazy, did you notice there are no pin holes in that plank, the planks have been laying really flat but this plank pulled off when the glue was not fully set. Lesson learned. However, not sure if this is a good idea or not but I use CA glue at the first joints and hold the joint tight until the glue has taken, pin the planks then revert to carpenters glue mainly along the flat side.

For bending I dip the plank in warm water for about 5 seconds then bend it round the body of a just boiled kettle. With finger pressure applied to required bend you can feel when the wood is ready to fold around the curvature of the kettle, works really well. I just measured the dia of kettle 4 inches at the smallest point and I can bend a hull plank tight to the circumference in a full circle. There is some spring back and I think that is what happened.

I will be more careful, its those hurry up demons!! :rolleyes:

Posted

Hey Doug,

               Thx for response, you are right on all your statements, I have a couple of errors that required fixing, (clever camera angle hid them, haha), but I'm having a blast. Visitors just arrived, have to go!

 

Len

Posted

Blighty, I suspect some of your spring-back is happening because you've reached the point where the planks start bending in several dimensions at once. The first few just wrap around a nice vertical curve, but as you go down they increasingly need to bend inward toward the keel, and that's the part that popped off; it's trying to maintain that nice, flat curve but the frames are sinking away beneath it. You may want to start tapering the planks more, or adding some horizontal bending to help them form that nice 3D curve.

 

You might consider using some form of planking clamps instead of pins; I've never liked the way pins make the wood split, especially on curves where the wood is already under stress. I like the "modified binder clip" approach, which I discussed with a few photos in a build log here. I certainly didn't come up with this idea and wish I could credit whomever did, because it works really well and is easier on the wood.

 

Apologies if you know all this; I don't mean to talk down to you. I'm an amateur too and appreciated all the help others have offered me as I've learned various skills in this fascinating hobby, and have an instinctive desire to want to return the favor. Please feel free to tell me to lay off!

Posted

Hi Cathead,

                 Regarding tapering the ends, I will do so on next rows I do, makes sense to me! I will send an updated pic of same area from same angle.

 

Regarding the binder clip method, I'm not sure what the third handle does, I only have one size right now so I'm struggling to understand what it does. I will investigate further. I can see the extra part in your pics but not clear how to use.

 

When the penny drops, I'll get back to you.

 

With regard to asking you to lay off, No chance, I joined this forum for this purpose, share build experience and gain knowledge. I can't wait for some one to like and adapt one of my ideas, (we might be waiting along time ) :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

The first build I did without a build log, never again....

 

Thx so much for input, it will always be appreciated.

 

Len

Posted

What you do, is you take apart one binder clip, and slip the silver handle horizontally between the black arms of another clip. The regular clip goes over your frame; the "extra" horizontal part presses flat against your plank and holds it in place. In other words, it takes two clips to make each one of these, but the result is a 3D clip that can hold planks horizontally against a vertical frame. For example, see the second photo on my build log here, which shows how these are holding a flat plank onto a set of vertical frames. If that still doesn't make sense, I can try to take a few photos to demonstrate. Again, not taking credit for this method, I just know where the photos are in my own build logs!

Posted

Len:

 

To the right side of the attached photo of the hull of my Chaperon during assembly you can see a simple home-made planking clamp made from a common clothes pin.  This type of clamp does no provide a lot of force, but it you soak the plank for a few minutes and clamp it in place to dry then when it's dry glue in place the use of a lot of force is not needed.

 

Kurt

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Posted

Cathead and Kurt,

                            I will apply both these methods, when I get down the store to buy different size binder clips and pegs, I have never seen pegs like yours Kurt. Cathead, your new pics resolved my confusion.

 

Thx for posting.

Posted

Hi,

    I am progressing with the hull planking, all going well so far, not  to much to discuss on that point but I do have another interesting quandary I need some advice on.

I started looking at the boiler asm as my next sub project to construct and decided to show individual boilers as opposed to the 'box set' the kit provides. However, if the rectangular box is filled with 3 boilers the ratio of Dia. X length would be 10:1.................. Max Dia is 15mm, maximum length 150mm, of each boiler.

 

The normal ratio is approx. 4:1 to 5:1 based on scaled screen shots I have found on line so I'm assuming this is likely best guide line.

Therefore my options are:

1.  Leave as is!

2.  Increase Dia, to max of 20mm,  this would increase the width and height of the boiler asm, however real scale would be over 3 ' Dia. and the length would still need to be reduced.

3.  Maybe 2 boilers not 3?

 

Based on the dowel I have for the boiler that I planned to use, this is what it looks like.

 

13mm Dia. x 148mm.

 

Any advise would be greatly appreciated.

 

Len

 

 

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Posted

Len:

The box is the insulating part that covers the individual boilers.  I would leave it as is and add details to the assembly if you want to upgrade.

Kurt

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Posted

Hi Kurt,

           I agree with you, package restraints don't work for accurate scaling.

I can add flanges, ash pan, doors to fire box,not sure of anything else but that will be fun to do.

 

P.S. Maybe a psychedelic paint job like John Lennon's Rolls Royce would work... ;) ;) :rolleyes:

Posted

I've started to construct the boiler asm and found a use for the meet tenderizer. I beat up the surface of what will be the ash pan to simulate a layer of ash, I've also added  a coat of black paint to see if the effect is any good. Should work ok. Note I extended the front edge of the pan to show a little bit more. I will trim off the extra length when I've finished painting it. It gives me something to hold on too.

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Posted

I'm well into the boiler asm. now, that has been a fun little project it took me most of today. Sticking with the plan to weather/age the old gal, I might have over done it a little!!!! What do you think?

 

it will be easy to back off a little and reduce the rust onset.

 

The smoke manifold is still to be weathered.

 

Back to  the hull tomorrow, time to decide on colour options. :)

 

 

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Posted

I like it as is.  I think it will look great when installed - the  limited visibility of the boiler when installed will make the weathering look very realistic.

 

Kurt

Kurt Van Dahm

Director

NAUTICAL RESEARCH GUILD

www.thenrg.org

SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS

CLUBS

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Midwest Model Shipwrights

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Posted

Hi,

    I've been checking out Youtube for some wood aging techniques and I really liked the effect of dipping in a solution of vinegar, baking soda and wire wool. I experimented on clothes pegs, the results of which you can see below.

The problem with this is it is a very wet process and the thin sheets of decking will warp.

But the advantages are great.

  • No skill required, just wet it and wait.
  • Looks very genuine, much better than any painting I'm capable of.
  • The stain penetrates deep into the wood, so any filing or distressing of surface will still be aged if the original surface is removed. (I cut off the end of the peg to see depth of penetration, it basically appeared to be right to center of wood section).

 I would like to treat the deck and lower side walls prior to painting, then sand off areas of paint in high traffic areas to show bare deck boards.

 

Can anyone recommend a safer process? Thx for reading.

 

Len

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