HMS Victory by zeptraderUK - Deagostini - 1/72 - Cross-Section

[zeptraderUK]

Ive decided to move out of the tin shed and back into the brick outhouse and re work to a better standard:) So it begins...its gonna take time, its gonna take money, so little by little each weekend I'm plugging away.

 

 

 

 

I'm finally going start cleaning and converting my original brick shed I used when I first started making model boats, I moved out when it got too cold and mice and spiders and all those horrible little bugs get in, the models were getting in a mess, I then moved into the 'tin shed' BUT my tools and work area are expanding.

 

 

 

 

 

I have a complete vision of what I want to achieve but some work needs to be done. The first is too have a clear space to work but still continue to have a workshop (tin shed) to continue building my models. I have 3 shed....2 brick and one tin shed, it's a case of moving things around to achieve a clear space to work.

 

 

 

 

 

The picture shows the main problem, I need to block up and seal the roof, any heating will just disappear, this is the dreaded asbestos concrete roofing, I have been assured that as long as I don't break or disturb the roof then it will be ok.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As you can see I did start filling the joins but need to finish this off..the wood that I put up some years back will come down and I will treat the underside of the roof with Bituminous paint, a sort of seal. Ive never had a leak from this roof in the last 14 years Ive been in this house so I'm confident.

 

 

I'll then be adding loft insulation and plasterboard's for ceiling to seal the whole thing. That's got to be the first aim..to seal the roof.

 

 

 

 

 

The next stage in my vision is to render the walls, something ive never done before and I will only be skimming rather than the full 2 or 3 layer render, this will then be painted with masonry white paint. The floor is concrete and needs no work, but there are small gaps that will need filling (render) close to the floor on the walls. Once the whole shed has been 'sealed' the fun bit starts...to build the workbench and plan a perfect 'man's' workshed 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This has one window that the housing association put in years ago...double glazed..perfect, the door thought will need dealing with.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For me this makes sense, the 'tin shed' is ok but as I'm sure most of you have some very expensive tools that need looking after..a brick shed is far better protected than the 'tin shed'

 

 

 

 

 

please comment on anything I'm doing here..I'm no expert.

 

 

 

 

 

So that were I started in October 2012.......

 

[zeptraderUK]

Almost finished but now I'm starting to continue with my models...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll continue this now is a build diary of HMS Victory Cross Section.

 

..now to start......................

[zeptraderUK]

Here I go then, my first proper build diary on here (be gentle eh!)

 

No fancy pictures, no fancy this and that, just my build in the 'new' shed.

 

Nothing too serious here, just covered it with that peel clear film stuff!

 

as per instructions.

 

Once dried I transferred it to some mdf (flat) and drilled holes to take the cocktail sticks, this now holds them in position.

 

 

I knocked up this jig to hold the keel section..seems to work ok.

 

All frames held tight and all match perfect, a little weight.

 

I bought some more Aliphatic glue some 6 months ago..seems they screwed up and put a label on normal white glue..damn!!!!

 

Starting to build the frames up on the jig, the picture does seem to show it tilting a little but ive checked and its fine.

 

Hands free work.

 

There we go for this weekend, I may have a bash during the week, but that depends on how heavy it gets a work.

The cameras needs setting up for this lighting in the shed, its coming out a little yellow'ish, I need to change some settings, thank god for photoshop.

[zeptraderUK]

Ive got the bug back again, just finished a few more frames..but now its time to get ready for work..arghhhh :angry-banghead: 

 

 

 

 

 

Ive only adjusted a few of these this time around (in photoshop), just need to find the best settings now on the camera.

 

Whats good is the roooooommmm I have to move and spread my stuff...just perfect.  

[zeptraderUK]

more progress with a few mods along the way.

 

still working on the camera settings, I think I'm getting there!! I'm surprised know one has thought of doing this planking system? Its not totally historically correct but I think it works really well, I wont be copper tiling but doing something a little different.  anyway my take on a cross section.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[zeptraderUK]

Some more progress today, quite enjoying seeing this come together.

 

 

 

 

Thats about it till next weekend, or if there is no snow I can make my way to the shed during the week.  

[zeptraderUK]

Anyway all weekend come wind and ..snow, nice and warm in the shed.

some progress on the planking, again very different from the magazine insturctions, I used some left over wood from the HMS Victory (full ship) to plank the outside, I trimmed them down to 4mm (instead of 5mm) as I like the smaller plank better.

 

And instead of following the magazine regarding the gun port I thought it far better to cut these out as I did with the full ship, much cleaner.

 

4mm planks cut and pencil marked on the edges.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[zeptraderUK]

Some work today slow but worth it.

 

Ive jumped ahead a little to complete the riders and some mods to go with it.

 

First to thin some wood.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[zeptraderUK]

some scratching today, the results speak for themselves, kit parts only used for size ect.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It needs some sanding to fit, but nothing is glued yet so it ok.

[zeptraderUK]

Finally finished the pump house and shot locker, all made from scratch and taken nearly 2 weeks (work got in the way) but I think it is time well spent.

 

all Ive used from the kit is the  PE hinges.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There were a few things I wont do again and maybe could do with a re work but hey...I'm happy with it.

I have to say I was inspired by a scratch built Victory over at Modelshipworld, the guy's name is Alexandru and he is making a 1/48 scale Victory.

[zeptraderUK]

A very relaxing time over the last 4 days, back to work tomorrow.

 

 

I see no reason what so ever to follow the instruction and build up as you go, too much handling of the model and a risk of dust a breakages.

So I'll be planking everything up to the last deck.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[zeptraderUK]

I'm replacing what I think is a bit rough looking.  

 

Finished planking the inside, now to line the gun port on the upper deck.

 

a simple way to keep on top of all the different types of wood.

 

Im scratching my own gun port lids.

 

 

Ive started to stain parts, not glued yet just getting the colour right.

 

This was taken with my mobile so it may look darker than it really is.

 

again a mobile phone picture ...bit dark

 

 

The last series of picture are from my camera and show the real colour, 2 different shades of stain were used, still a work in progress. What I dont want out of this model is the inside being too dark.

 

 

 

 

[zeptraderUK]

A small update as I've had a day off work, I wanted to sort the colour of the wood to bed, I think I have, Im more than happy with the colour now.

 

Again nothing has been glued down yet, so 2 different stains and beeswax..sorted.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and some crew....

 

 

 

 

now to build the wales

 

Just an thinned undercoat to start...and yes the lower hull is white..

 

 

 

[WackoWolf]

I started watching from when you first started. Hopefully I will get to see it finished. Thanks fro re-posting and Please keep the pictures coming.

[WackoWolf]

Would like to see the Hood that you did in 1/200 scale is you can find the pictures and maybe put them in for us to see.

[zeptraderUK]

well the Hood is an ongoing project that you can find if you look at my 'sig' just follow the link to my dedicated Hood blog.

 

thanks for your interest 

[Mioriticul]

Thank you for re-posting. All the tips and ideas are welcome.

I intent to build a section, also from DeAgostini, but a fictional one - St John the Baptist. However, they are not known to give attention to accuracy, therefore your tips are great.

 

Keep up the good work - you just got yourself a new follower

[xavjar]

Your dockyard has come along way since the last time I saw it colin,

 

Looking good mate, looking good

 

Phil,

[zeptraderUK]

more work on the outside, as I now have the last issue I can plan better.

 

 

My first attempt at mouldings, after doing some research Ive sort of gone with a Longridge style moulding, sort of anyway.

 

 

 

Ive used a very watered down first coat which I will lightly sand back to give a nice clean surface to build up the colour slowly.

 

 

I'm trying to come up with a way to do the scrolling (shown marked in pencil on the outer hull), I've tried having a bash at re-creating this with wood....not much success, but I have another idea that I'll try tomorrow.

Edited February 16, 2013 by zeptraderUK

[cristikc]

Hi Colin

Nice to see you repost this Cross Section

I like very much, and i will watch with interest, and i will take more ideas from your work.

I also work to two cross sections.

 1. Santisima Trinidad from Occre

 2. San Johh the Baptism from Deagostini

I'll try today to repost my work to Santisima

See you soon with much more pictures

Al the best Cristi

[mtaylor]

Hi Colin,

 

Good to see that you and your build log are back.

[zeptraderUK]

Hi Cristi, I love to see both the Trinidad and San John the Baptism cross sections, they sound great.

 

Thanks for the comments, Ive slept on it last night and woke up wondering if the moulding are out of scale and when I add the fenders (not sure if thats the correct term) I will run into problems, BUT if i keep changing then the damn thing will never get done...I'm in 2 minds, I like it and its my first attempt at mouldings.

[dafi]

Great and neat work!!!

 

Love it, Daniel

[zeptraderUK]

Thanks Daniel.

 

 

Done some more work to, we had the grandchildren over time was limited:)

 

Finally today I found a setting that doesn't yellow my picture, just need to tweak it a little but now I don't have to adjust it in Photoshop.

 

You may notice I've changed the mouldings, I wasn't happy with the size of them, just needed to re scale them down a bit.

 

First very watered down coat of black, this will be sanded back a little, then build up the coats.

 

Internal painting underway as well.

 

 

 

..and now the scroll mouldings, as suggested by a friend..'green stuff', seems to work ok, plus I had a go at using wire.

 

and my wonderful grandchildren during our adventure in the woods.

 

Edited February 17, 2013 by zeptraderUK

[Erebus and Terror]

This looks like a great kit and you are making fantastic progress. What is the scale?

[zeptraderUK]

thanks..the scale is 1:72

[zeptraderUK]

some work on the scroll moulding today and a little painting.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not entirely happy with the paint, the black is a little glossy for me, but these are Caldercraft paints so I guess its right.

[zeptraderUK]

a few things how I did....first time at scratch mouldings (also using the mobile camera so quality is not 100%)

 

using the 'bamboo' supplied as it's a hard wood I trimed it down to 3mm.

 

As this was my first time I decided to just make the cutter with out actually knowing what I wanted.

 

Using my dremel I attached the tool and cut.

 

Clamped the wood strip down.

 

and started scraping...

 

...the result

 

..bit of sanding the edges...

 

done:)

 

here's how I keep my wood selecion now....I know  

 

it works for me!!!!

[Erebus and Terror]

Excellent work. I really like this kit and you've done a great job with it. I wish I had seen it before I bought the Corel cross section...

[gjdale]

Very nice work Colin - and a couple of delightful looking grand kids to boot!