HMS Victory by michael101 - Caldercraft - Scale 1:72

[md1400cs]

Michael,

BTW you hull planking work is also so perfect. I also like your method for fitting in the keel - Super nice work.

Are you going to hide everything with copper? 

 

 

[michael101]

4 minutes ago, md1400cs said:

Michael,

BTW you hull planking work is also so perfect. I also like your method for fitting in the keel - Super nice work.

Are you going to hide everything with copper? 

 

 

Thank you for your kind words  

about the copper , I do not going to use copper plates at all , 
BTW on top of this planks going to be second plank (walnut) 

 

Michael.

 

 

[md1400cs]

Well - I'm hoping that my second planking (coming up) looks something as good as your first planking.

[michael101]

Thank you Very much !! Im glad you like my work , 

to be honest it took me long time to do it i took each plank as a project 

i think the secret for getting proud of your work its to do part by part plank by plank as a project by itself  without to think when im going to move to the next plank ...

just to do your work without rushing at all , its an hobby not a business , just relax and put all your mind on the little thing that you doing and think about that as a project by itself

BTW i saw your Vasa and it looks amazing ! So im sure your second plank on your current model will be perfect ! 
Best regards ,

Michael.

[michael101]

Hello friend ,I hope all of you are well and safe at this days 

Here is a little update for my build log,

I have done it a few month ago but not had the time for sharing with you

So now before starting the next stage on my victory I had to share with you guys a new method for drilling the holes in a perfect way inside the gunport for the cannons 

 

until now I saw a lot of beautiful build logs and a lot ways for drilling this holes for the cannons but I wasn’t happy with non of them 

I saw some people who used a water level and other who used the stand of the proxxon drill but you can’t get the perfect central hole in the middle of the gunport with this methods....(and there is also other problems with this methods ,I will speak about them later,)

 

So before starting expanding what I have done 

I will start talking about the issues in this matter 

1. The cannon must be in the middle of the gunport 
2. The cannon also need to be 90 degrees from the keel ( vertical ) and the problem is- the gunport is not square with the keel and each ship has his shape ....
3. And also the cannons need to be 90 degrees horizontal from the sides of the gunport (before at issue no.2 I was talking about the 90 degrees from the keel and I was referring vertical ! and now in the second issue I’m talking about the horizontal way means the cannons must run smooth with the curves of the bow and the stern ) here you can see the issues : 

 

 

So like I said I saw who the builders dill with the drill holes 

some of them used a water level but this level can’t be precise for our needs , also I saw other who used the stand of the proxxon drill ,that one maybe can be ok only for the issue no.2 but not good for the other problems ....
 

All those issues above made me to think a lot about the solution 

and after a lot of thinking I made this jig for my drill who going to resolve all those issues 

I will cut the words and will show you some pictures 

 

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And after all here is the result :

 

 

 

 

I hope this guide will help you out 

Best regards,

Michael.

Edited December 28, 2020 by michael101

[Robert29]

Nice jig Michael. On my Victory I had used a drilled block of wood with a spirit level and I had to readjust a few of them, but with your jig I think you get the positions spot on.  Through experience I have learned that it is always worth the time spent on making jigs, especially when you have repetitive work.

 

Robert

[michael101]

Thank you dear Robert  

you remember it took me long time to figure out who to resolve those problems above 

but after all it worth the time to make this jig 

 

[Roberts Orca]

I am so impressed with your craftsmanship.  Very well done.

So glad I am able to learn from you.

[michael101]

Thank you Roberts

if you need anything feel free to ask

 

[md1400cs]

As always -- a pleasure to follow your build

[michael101]

10 minutes ago, md1400cs said:

As always -- a pleasure to follow your build

Thank you 🙏 

good to see you again  

[GuntherMT]

Hello Michael,

 

I saw your post in the 2 build log challenge and thought I would peek in.  It looks like you are doing a top-notch job so far!

 

I've never taken a look in here for a fairly simple reason - these big first raters really don't interest me as I don't find them to be good looking!  However, the building processes are likely very much the same, and your planking looks fantastic, especially for a first planking that will be covered up.  I'll follow along for a while but may not have much to say due to my lack of experience with anything with more than 6 guns. 

 

 

[michael101]

14 minutes ago, GuntherMT said:and your planking looks fantastic, especially for a first planking that will be covered up.  I'll follow along for a while but may not have much to say due to my lack of experience with anything with more than 6 guns. 

 

 

Thank you! and welcome to my build log

Best regards

Michael.

[michael101]

Hello friends,

here is a new update for my build log ,

at this days I had to mark the Wales on the ship..

the instruction says you need to take reference from each gunport to the wale from the plans and transfer it to the model

by marking a dot then just mark the lines and connect all the dots...

the problem is ; the gun-ports on the model they are far to be exact as the plans (I mean they are not on the same level as the plans but the good thing is they has the same distant between each other !)

and if you taking the reference from each gunport and try to transfer it to the model you getting line with steps and not a nice curve line !
 

so I decide to take the curve line from the plans and not to do it as a free style and transfer it to the ship ,even it will touch under the gun-ports in a different places and not like the plans

anyway each model plan give a different line even at the book : anatomy of the ship it show the line at different way and not like the caldercraft plan 

(no one today can tall where was the line on the real ship because they change it several times when they did renovation to the ship at Portsmouth )

 

so first I have thinking to mark the waterline on the ship and the to take reference from this line to the wale at the plans then to transfer it to the model 

but I wasn’t able to do it because at the model there is a lot of curves an the angel of the caliper wasn’t on the same angel as when you taking the measurement from the plans and it will give you the dot on another place and you will get again line with steps and not a nice curve line !

at the next topic I will show you a nice guide how to transfer lines from the plans to the ship in a perfect manner 

 

[michael101]

Guid for transferring lines from plans to the model 
After a lot of thinking I have found the way to transfer the Wales lines from the plans to the ship you can use the same method for other things you need to copy from the plans in a perfect and exact way  

So I’m  happy to share my guid with you  

and hop it will help you ! 

 

1. First you have to put the ship even on the desk or if it on a stand make sure the ship has the same distance from the table to the keelson at the bow and at the stern !!!!

 

2. Also make sure the ship is even left and right !

 

after the ship it’s even left and right also bow and stern are even you can start working (take the tame on this stage it’s very important to have the ship even !)
 

3. now you need to take a reference from the ship to a straight timber (in my case I mark the lower edge of one gunport but you can take reference from other things that you have already on the ship and also on the plan )

 

 

 

 

 

 

4. Now you need to lay down this timber on the plans on the same gunport edge  (on the pictures it’s not on the same gunport because I just took pictures to show you the example ... but it must be on the same gunport

when you have it on the exact edge line , mark the water line on the timber :

After you have the waterline marked on the timber just erase the gunport edge line from your timber 

 

now when you have the waterline marked on your timber you can start taking a perfect references from the plan!

5.now just put the waterline you have marked on your timbre on the waterline of the plan under the  mark you want to transfer and use 90 degrees ruler between the timber and the waterline to be sure it’s straight 

 

 

6. Simply mark the line you want to transfer on the timber in my case it’s the line of the wale:

 

 

7. When you have it marked on the timber you need to put the timber again on your table and adjust your pencil holder to be exact on the same line 

 

 

 

8. Now after adjusting the pencil holder move it and carefully mark the dot on the model 

 

 

do the same for all the dots you need then put a temporary plank on the ship and connect all the dots by runing a pencil along the plank to get a beautiful line as the plans :

 

 

 

 

here is pictures after taking the planks out :

 

Edited February 28, 2021 by michael101

[Robert29]

Nice writeup and explanation  Michael.  Taking your time and planning the best approach to do things always pays off at the end.  Keep up your good work Michael.  

 

Robert

[Blackreed]

Your ship is a work of art, along with your tooling.

 I checked out your stagecoach as well, I had already seen and liked that, it’s very beautiful.

[michael101]

6 hours ago, Robert29 said:

Nice writeup and explanation  Michael.  Taking your time and planning the best approach to do things always pays off at the end.  Keep up your good work Michael.  

 

Robert

Thank you dear friend !

and like you sayid i just taking the time because there is a lot to plan before starting this stage 

 

Best regards 

Michael

Edited March 2, 2021 by michael101

[michael101]

8 hours ago, Blackreed said:

Your ship is a work of art, along with your tooling.

 I checked out your stagecoach as well, I had already seen and liked that, it’s very beautiful. 

Thank you Blackreed for visiting my build log and also for your kind words !

 

Best regards,

Michael.

 

Edited March 2, 2021 by michael101

[michael101]

Thank you friends for all the likes  

im glad to see you like the guid 

and i will be more than happy if it will serve you in the future 

 

Michael.

[michael101]

Here is a little update , 

very usefully jig for marking vertical lines on the ship i hope it will help other builders

 

so, here i have marked the bulkheads lines on the first plank and also the pattern of the butt shift system on the middle of the ship .. 

but i will talk about this method later ..

here is some pictures :

Best regards,

Michael.

[kiwiron]

Fantastic job, very nice workmanship

[etubino]

On 3/22/2021 at 7:28 AM, michael101 said:

Here is a little update , 

very usefully jig for marking vertical lines on the ship i hope it will help other builders

 

so, here i have marked the bulkheads lines on the first plank and also the pattern of the butt shift system on the middle of the ship .. 

but i will talk about this method later ..

here is some pictures :

Best regards,

Michael.

Beautiful planking!!! And very interesting gadgets, thanks a lot for sharing Michael!

[michael101]

Thank you Kiwiron and Etubino !

now I not have much time to work on my project 

but the ship not running anywhere it’s just  waiting for me at the workshop