jaerschen Posted January 15, 2015 #211 Posted January 15, 2015 Hi Daniel, I wish you also the best that you have time to build at the Triton soon. harvey1847 and captgino 2 Juergen Actually in progress: 50-Gun Ship HMS Leopard 1790 POB in scale 1/64 HMS Triton 1773 POF 1/48 Finished: Brigg Irene (ex. HMS Grasshopper) 1/50
AnobiumPunctatum Posted January 18, 2015 #212 Posted January 18, 2015 I second Jürgen's wishes. harvey1847 1 Regards Christian Current build: HM Cutter Alert, 1777; HM Sloop Fly, 1776 - 1/36 On the drawing board: English Ship Sloops Fly, 1776, Comet, 1783 and Aetna, 1776; Naval Cutter Alert, 1777 Paused: HMS Triton, 1771 - 1/48 "Have no fear of perfection - you'll never reach it." Salvador Dali
harvey1847 Posted February 9, 2015 Author #213 Posted February 9, 2015 Hello All and specially Aldo, Christian, Jürgen,Mark, Ray and T.J. ...!!! I am stuck with the stern. I have repeated the stern pieces like twice and the one or two three times. I haev asked Juergen for a little help, hope to see his answer soon but after all the trials I´ve made i´m not in a hurry... Willing to move on I started to cut the beams for the Lower Deck. I am following the pdf I drew months ago. My intention is not to cover all with the carlings and the ledges, I´ll make only the scarfs and some of the curves on both sides... Do not know for sure right now. Here are the pics... I glued the patterns as allways with rubber glue (scholar one) The gab between the beams it´s small so I have had to sand less. You have to be very precise with the cuttin though. All of them rough... Sanding the inner side. The outside was done with the disc band sander... (no pics of that) Easier than sanding the inner. And the result of one, at last, weekend modelling... Best wishes and happy winter!! Daniel. Mirabell61, mtaylor and SaturnV 3 In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
harvey1847 Posted February 11, 2015 Author #214 Posted February 11, 2015 (edited) Hello helllo, Here are the pics... This part has been the "trickiest" (till now...) to built. I repeated them 3 times. I had no such thick piece of wood so I ended gluing to 5mm planks. Then I sanded it. I have left all the pieces 4mm thick because on the plan look pretty thin to me. I finanally found the trick, specially due to Jürgen´s log (Thanks for that J!!). 2 leveled ribbands (2.5x5mm) to fit the posts. With the ribband and those clamps (not very fancy) It´s easy to set the post and see where you have to sand less or more. Starboard. Port side. The curve is very nice. Now, another good one. I glued a 20x20mm pine block meaussuring the correct distance from the last frame till the outter edge of the post. 52mm. I ensured the level of the block. Somehow is like actually building a jig. After the port and the startboard posts were glued I moved the pine block 3mm out. All the post comform a curve, they are not straight aligned. You can also take this measure out of the plans. I also marked the block with the situation of all the different posts. Before to put the inner posts I started with the framing on both sides. Again the ribband was extremly useful... Last pic, I marked the gabs down for the other posts. Now It´s all done. I ´ll post the pics later. Daniel. Edited February 12, 2015 by harvey1847 sport29652, wangshuoliurui, druxey and 4 others 7 In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
harvey1847 Posted February 13, 2015 Author #215 Posted February 13, 2015 (edited) Hello All and happy Carnival! Here are the pics of the stern completed. The whole set is so weak that first I tried to treenail* the posts to the fashion timber but I broke the only 1mm bit I have. I´ll have to buy another one or five or ten of them... Anyway, I have glued 4 strips at the position where the taffarel will be. By doing this I hope to "protect" this area from the accidents I have seen on other logs. The unplanked stern is extremly weak. As you can see I have moved the pine block 3 mm out. For the other two posts I moved it another 3mm... Happy weekend ahead, Daniel. p.s. Treenailing: DO YOU HAVE any TRICK or something for the treenailing??? I can not get a strip less than 1mm diameter!! The strip keeps braking and cracking when I try to pull it out. I have used twicers, my fingers, my nails... but nothing. The wood I´m using is walnut but I have tried bamboo sticks and maple. Please help me here. Any tutorial or video would be apreciated. I went till number #11 on the plate. On page #10, post #141 are the details about the plate. Do I have to wet the strips first, more patience, ?? Edited February 14, 2015 by harvey1847 mtaylor, druxey and SaturnV 3 In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
druxey Posted February 13, 2015 #216 Posted February 13, 2015 If you are using a jeweller's drawplate, it won't work for wood. It's designed to squeeze wire to thinner diameters. Get yourself a Byrnes' drawplate from Model Machines. That is made specifically to shave wood. harvey1847 1 Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
mtaylor Posted February 13, 2015 #217 Posted February 13, 2015 Is that a jeweler's drawplate? Hmm... I was thinking you might be drawing the wood through the drawplate the wrong way. One side, the holes are countersunk and one side they're not. Pull through the non-countersunk side and out the countersunk side. harvey1847 1 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
harvey1847 Posted February 14, 2015 Author #218 Posted February 14, 2015 Thanks for the answers... Druxey, Pretty simple answer yours... (with respect). The problem of purchasing Byrnes plate is the price. I emailed him a year ago and the plate was 25 bugs plus another 50 for the delivery. (75 $ total) And I can not see any difference between my plate and the Byrne´s one. At the end, I think, is a thick piece of metal bored in the same way as Byrnes. Any zoom or closeup pics of the holes on both sides would be apreciated to light up your point. Mark, You are right! I was pulling out from the wrong side I guess. Now I think is working better but I´m going to assume that from a 50cm long strip I am going to end with several 10 or 5cm long. And be more patience I guess. I´ll spend the whole afternoon only shaping with the plate to see how small dia. I can get. My aim is to get 0.7mm treenails. Thank you Guys! daniel. In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
yamsterman Posted February 14, 2015 #219 Posted February 14, 2015 hi daniel nice work on those stern timbers. i echo the sentiments with regards to the draw plate.pull from the non counter sunk side.go through each hole a couple of times or maybe more before moving to the next smaller hole.steady as she goes is the order of the day. so far with a byrnes plate ive managed to get pear down to 0.4 mm in quite long lengths.all the best cheers......mick mtaylor and harvey1847 2
druxey Posted February 15, 2015 #220 Posted February 15, 2015 Well, I'm glad you found an inexpensive solution, Daniel. I had no idea postage to Spain was so expensive! SaturnV and harvey1847 2 Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
janet bode Posted March 7, 2015 #221 Posted March 7, 2015 Fantastic work hope to do the same one day,good luck with your build. janetB aviaamator and harvey1847 2
harvey1847 Posted March 15, 2015 Author #222 Posted March 15, 2015 (edited) Hello All! A big and small update... I am working with the interior of the hold to trying to move on '¡?... Trying to finish all the breast hooks and the masts steps. I got a question, Does the mizzen mast rest on the keel or on the lower deck? on two huge carlings? # 3 - 4 counting from the stern to the stem. (see the pdf) Anyway, I have started to cut all the frames and I have made a hand saw out of a square piece of wood (15x15mm) and then cast the whole thing with resin. It´s pretty useful, not fancy but it works. I have attached lots of pics just to remind me where I have to cut more or less. Like a "diary". Also I have attached the pdf I made on its day to meassure all the dots from the wale to the top rail. the pdf... keel_frames_decks_PS_100.pdf Best wishes! Daniel. Edited March 24, 2015 by harvey1847 mtaylor, jansmiss, wangshuoliurui and 2 others 5 In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
harvey1847 Posted March 24, 2015 Author #223 Posted March 24, 2015 Hello all! Still waiting for the answer about the question of the mizzen mast... Druxey, Mark, Jürgen... and all! Anyway, Here´s a pic of the Triton taked on June 18th 2014 And here´s a of how she have changed. I´m pretty happy cause now I can see the "final" shape of the ship. Cutting the frames was kind of a nightmare... almost everything started to crack so I have had to quote every single piece with a pencil an then stick them to the frames with tape or to see where I have to re-glue... Hope to work some more on Easter! daniel. JerseyCity Frankie, jansmiss, Gimo and 5 others 8 In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
druxey Posted March 24, 2015 #224 Posted March 24, 2015 You happen to be in luck, Daniel: I actually had a copy of Triton's sheer draught in my collection to refer to. Her mizzen mast steps on the keel. Might I suggest you get a copy of this draught, which shows a wealth of detail, both inboard and out? The National Maritime Museum's reference is ZAZ3235. harvey1847 1 Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv
mtaylor Posted March 25, 2015 #225 Posted March 25, 2015 We have copies of those here: http://modelshipworld.com/index.php/topic/107-trition-lines-drawings/ harvey1847 1 Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned)
harvey1847 Posted March 28, 2015 Author #226 Posted March 28, 2015 Thanks very much both!! I´ll move to that part next... Happy Easter! daniel. In the shipyard: HMS Triton 1773. POF. 1:48. Daniel On the computer: R.A. Principe de La Paz. POF. 1:48. Daniel
rdsaplala Posted February 3, 2018 #227 Posted February 3, 2018 Hi Daniel, Just catching up with your build, wow, it's nice to see the all the frames in place, she has some lovely lines mtaylor 1 Best regards,AldoCurrently Building: HMS Pegasus (Victory Models)-Mothballed to give priority to Triton HMS Triton (first attempt at scratchbuilding) Past build:HM Brig Badger (Caldercraft), HM Brig Cruizer, HM Schooner Ballahoo
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