Charles W Morgan by texxn5 - FINISHED - Model Shipways - 1:64

[texxn5]

At this point the Skylight has been rebuilt and the Deck House & Berth have been constructed and glued to the deck.

[texxn5]

Should anyone need pictures from other views just let me know and I'll post them.  After the Deck House was added it is now time to move to the Shelter/Boat Bearer structure, which is a covered area covering the Boat House, and the Steerage Companionway as well as having storage on top for two small whaleboats, secured upside down, so there won't be any details inside.  The first pictures are of the Steerage Companionway....

Edited November 25, 2013 by texxn5

[texxn5]

Here is the progression of stanchions...they have to be cut into the rails or notched as required, then painted into the sidelines of the hull both black and white striped.

[texxn5]

There is a third stanchion, but first I had to build the Vegetable Bin which is on deck and under the structure.

[texxn5]

Now for the third stanchion and the bracing for the roof which will come after some more detailing underneath and prior to the attachment of the roof top.  

[texxn5]

This will pretty much bring this log up to date as to where I am.  The tops of the braces are not painted to allow for a good glue joint when the roof is applied.  Now I have the Main Hatch, and then some details for underneath the roof to do.

[edmay]

Hello John,nice pictures,you are moving right along,skylight looking good,steady progress,well done. Edwin

[texxn5]

Hi Lawrence, the Skylight had to be rebuilt back to the smaller scale.  It's not perfect, in that it is still slightly larger because I couldn't drill into the 1/64" lumber for the protection bars over the windows.  They kept breaking and getting off center.  I don't have a drill press so they all had to be done by hand, and were way too fragile.  In hindsight I probably should have gone ahead and ordered some hardwoods from Jeff, but next time I guess.  It certainly looks better than the first one.  It did take less time in that I wound up with a learning curve to keep checking it back and forth to the ship so that it could get corrected easily if something gets out of whack.  My camera is not very forgiving in that it seems to exaggerate the paint finish....it actually looks better than it photographs.  I think we all have that problem sometimes. 

[texxn5]

I do have a question for anyone monitoring this.   Does anyone have a good picture of a handheld Harpoon?  I need to make several of them, and somehow don't have a good picture and or measurements in real life size that I can scale down to the 1:64 scale of the Morgan.  Thanks for any help.

[JPett]

Ahoy John

 

Buck did a really nice job on this

 

Check SeaSaltlydog  CW Morgan whaleboat, post #90

Edited November 25, 2013 by JPett

[texxn5]

Hi Jpett.  Thanks for the information.  I can't find his log.  PM me should you find it.  I'm going to keep looking.

[augie]

It's SaltySeaDog:

 

http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/839-cw-morgan-whaleboat-by-salty-sea-dog-al-scale-125-wood-pof-first-wooden-boat-build-small/#entry11863

[texxn5]

Thanks Augie, I don't know why I couldn't find it....I'll check it out.  ME has a New Bedford Whaleboat in 1/16" scale, but when trying to download their instruction manual they only publish 11 of 64 pages which of course do not have the info pages needed for the accessories.  I'll publish my research to the log once I've scaled it properly for future bulder info.

[augie]

JP had the user name a little scrambled.  Don't know if it helps but I had a harpoon and a lance I bought up at Mystic some 40, aye 40-odd years ago.  As I recall, the wooden handle was hexagonal in shape, maybe 3 1/2" across the flats and the entire harpoon about 7' long.

[Piet]

Hey John, wow, you haven't been sitting on your hands, great progress and looking good.  Your shilight looks wonderful - - - did you treat it with preparation H to shrink it     Seriously though, how did you accomplish it?  Just in case a future builder runs into the same problem it may be helpful to them.

 

Cheers,

[Charley54]

Hey John- The more I see - the more I like. Keep it up and keep the pictures coming.

 

Charley

[popeye the sailor]

WOW!!!   very nice.........your moving right along!  so,  there is to be a roof over all that...huh   very  well done!

[JPett]

Ahoy John

 

Sorry about the typo. Billy boy took away my paste function with his last IE upgrade. I really don't understand that guy and his company. Google will never need to advertise as long as MS keeps sending customers their way. "lol"

 

Click on Augie's link and then page over to post #90. Buck has an excellent pic of his CW Morgan harpoon. Actually his whole build should be good reference material when you do your whaleboats. Buck is very easy going and friendly. I am sure he would not mind a PM

Edited November 26, 2013 by JPett

[texxn5]

Thanks guys.  Piet see post #1081 above for the discription of the rebuild on the Skylight.  Yes Popeye, there is a roof over this which holds 2 whaleboats on top for storage.  Also some harpoons and things under the roof in racks which is next.  I am currently building the Main Hatch and then will build the Fife Rail and Bilge Pumps, then to some Harpoons, barrels and some other things which go under the roof.  Then it'll probably take a month build theTryworks....it's a major focal point on this ship.  Kind of dreading it and that is why I moved aft first so that I could see progress along the way to keep me going.  More pictures tomorrow.

[augie]

That's a single flue harpoon Salty has modeled there.  Knowing you, John, you might want to go with the double flue design (even though actually less effective).  Some nice photos in this link:

 

http://www.harpoons.us/

[texxn5]

Thank you Augie.  That is exactly what I'm  looking for.  I have a Resistance solderer so I wuld be able to solder that type of head to a brass rod to make the tip.  The double has really got my attention.  From the pictures they have, I should be able to "guestimate" the proportions.  I'm planning on making about 6 of these, just to put into the racks I'm going to try to build, much less the whaleboats and toys for them.  Thank you for supplying this it should help me as well as anyone looking to build this thing too.

Edited November 26, 2013 by texxn5

[texxn5]

OK, here's today's minor progress.  With all going on, I even managed to get a little work done in the shipyard.  I got the main hatch done, painted and glued to the deck.  The pictures show it still wet, so it will look better tomorrow when all is dry and nothing is showing.  Tomorrow I'll work on the Fife Rail and some Bits that need to be added.  Maybe even a harpoon or two.

[texxn5]

These also show overall views of the entire deck.

[lambsbk]

Wow. You are really flying right along John. Looking nice.

[CaptCraig]

Wow! Lots of progress since this morning!

[texxn5]

Hi Craig, welcome aboard, are you building a ship?  If so I highly recomend starting a build log.  It's a great way to get your model going, and a great resources for information.  Thanks for your interest.

[gjdale]

Great pics John.  Your new skylight looks terrific, as does the rest of the ship.  Boy, you're really steaming ahead now!

Edited November 26, 2013 by gjdale

[popeye the sailor]

nice over view John...the deck layout is looking really sweet!

[Piet]

Hello John,

 

Well, here I am commenting on your questions about harpoons and how to make them.  I copied your last post from my O 19 sub build log.

 

 

Hhi Piet, as I'm thinking about this, I realize 14 ga., is way too big.  I'm thinking maybe 22 ga., and peening that into fine flat sheets.  If I leave it attached to the 22 ga. wire, it might be about right.  If not might have to do some soldering.  Any thoughts at 1:64 scale?  The problem with 22 ga. seems to me to be able to keep it straight without curves and bends as it is soft.  Mine is real soft like phone wire.

 

Yes, copper is more malleable then brass but it's also softer and in the unhardened state too flexible at these small sizes.  22 gauge measures out at close to 0.65 mm, which is kinda small but doable for the harpoon head but not so good for the shaft.  I would guess that the shaft should be about 2.5 inches in diameter for a good grip and handhold.  That translates to 1 mm at your scale.  

Okay, first the business end of your harpoon.  That 22 gauge wire is pretty good when flattened.  Then you can shape it with a tiny file.

Now, what about the shaft.  There are a few options

One is to use the same 22 gauge copper wire but you said it's kinda flimsy.  You can stiffen or harden it by stretching the wire by pulling on it.  Not so hard that it breaks but just enough to harden it some.

Another thing you can do is solder the harpoon point it to a 1 mm brass rod.  Flatten the stub end of the harpoon point but that should already be flat from your shaping step, then flatten about 2 to 3mm mm of the brass rod end and solder these two pieces together.  You determine how long the shaft has to be in scale.

 

I thought of using a 1.5 mm brass or copper tube for the shaft but that is too large for anyone to hold at almost 4 inches in diameter (at 1 to 1).  Thus that won't work.  A 1 mm wooden dowel is risky because it may warp.

 

Now, you can also make the entire harpoon out of one piece using either a 1 mm copper or brass rod.  Brass my be what I would try first.   Flatten the end and shape your harpoon point.  That flattening should be done with a 1/4 or 3/8 inch diameter pin punch.  That way you can come close to how much you want flat and leave the rest round for the shaft.  That way there is no soldering involved, just a little more work with the file.  You can also soften the brass with heat if your "peening" hardens it too much and makes it brittle.  Also, you should work from both ends, pound a little on one side then continue on the reverse side.

You should have a nice piece of smooth flat steel to hammer on (I should actually say, tap on).  

 

I hope this works for you, give it a try and see what comes out and let me know.

 

Cheers, 

 

[texxn5]

Wow, Piet, I think you just gave me a quick education on working with the metals.  Thank you so much, it is exactly what I needed.  With the Holiday coming up I probably won't be able to build this until the weekend or next week.  Your discription is like a practicum on building harpoons.  I will document and photogarph this as I attempt to build them.  I will probably need to make about a dozen of these or so.  The instructions from ME don't tell me that????  I am familiar with the techniques you discribe so I should not have a problem.  I have a good small anvil, so I do have a good worksurface.  I was not expecting such a detailed construction method, but then again I do know you, so actually I should have known....lol. Thank you and with your discription, and my building them, it should really aid anyone else that builds this ship, as well as me.