flying_dutchman2 Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share #241 Posted November 12, 2018 Cut 4 pieces of tightly woven cotton for the sails. The sails will be hemmed by hand and tied to the vanes. I will also dye them with tea so they have a somewhat darker color. Few more things and then she is finished. Marcus Altduck, Elijah, Canute and 5 others 8 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted November 13, 2018 Share #242 Posted November 13, 2018 Will you put them on unfurled, or furled (rolled up), Marcus? You might want to copy the strech on the fabric by making the fabric of the outer bottom point longer and create the "tension" in the fabric if you show them unfurled ... Love the way she's turning out mtaylor, thibaultron and Canute 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Griffith Posted November 13, 2018 Share #243 Posted November 13, 2018 Hey Marcus, interesting project! Suggest you dye the cloth and avoid the tea, as the tea has mild acids. Keep up the great work. thibaultron, Elijah, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted November 13, 2018 Share #244 Posted November 13, 2018 Hi Marcus, those sailsare only used at ‘low wind’ conditios. Sometimes just two out of four are used (always on opposite vanes). At higher windspeed no sails are used to keep the mill at reasonable speed. you might have the same speed problem when you put your mill outside with sails rigged. (partially) furled seems to be an option Jan mtaylor, thibaultron and Canute 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying_dutchman2 Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share #245 Posted November 13, 2018 Thanks for all the likes and I am assuming that Sjors is still around. De stille genieter (The quiet enjoyer). Bad English, but an exact translation. Cog & Jan: I will do what you both suggested. I would like to attach them furled and when I need them unfurl only two (opposite ends). Also stretch the outer bottom point. Richard : I'll use dye instead. Attempted to do the balancing with all the vanes attached to the tubes. To keep the same tube with the same vane I had to create a color coded method. So first painted the bottom of the vane slats any of the these colors. Yellow, green, blue or red. I color coded the copper tubing as well. When I inserted the copper tubing in the roede, the wood cracked. I initially drilled a slightly crooked hole in the roede and don't really want to redo the vane. So, I strengthen the area by wrapping it with rope and than coated it heavily with tight bond glue. Should work. Cut the sails and double folded the edges. Placed pins to keep it folded. Almost completed mill. I did add a Dutch flag above the kruibalk. Above is something called a "beard". This one is the voorbaard (front beard) and it has writing on it. I have plastic templates with letters. The kind you put a pencil in and follow the contour of the letter. Won't work on paint. Still thinking about a method of transferring the letters to my beard. Marcus Sjors, mtaylor, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted November 13, 2018 Share #246 Posted November 13, 2018 Marcus, I expected the "schoren" and "staartbalk" to be longer, bringing the wheel closer to the ground ... mtaylor, thibaultron and Canute 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying_dutchman2 Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share #247 Posted November 14, 2018 42 minutes ago, cog said: Marcus, I expected the "schoren" and "staartbalk" to be longer, bringing the wheel closer to the ground ... Cog. The mill sits on a turntable, the kind you have at the breakfast table and has all the add-ons for bread. This is so I can turn it at easy I'll take it off the turntable and put the mill on the table and see how high it is. I followed the plans for the lengths of all of them. Marcus Canute and thibaultron 2 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted November 14, 2018 Share #248 Posted November 14, 2018 some examples (users.skynet.be) Canute, mtaylor, Elijah and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying_dutchman2 Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share #249 Posted November 14, 2018 19 hours ago, cog said: Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying_dutchman2 Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share #250 Posted November 14, 2018 For the non Dutch language followers, the following paragraphs will have many Dutch mill words. Cog, I measured the heights/lengths of the individual pieces such as the stijlen (funderings muur, raam of deur kist en rieten dak gedeelte), kuiprand en vloer en kap and all of them are a mm more than they should be. The wheel (wielspaak) at the bottom of the kruibalk kan be either close to the ground or higher up, like the above picture. When it is like that there is a small narrow step attached to it so the miller can get up there. I need to build a small step and attach it to the side of the kruibalk. If I don't do this the wielspaak looks out of place. Thanks for mentioning this to me. Overal I am pretty happy with how it turned out. On my next mill (yes, there is going to be another one), I would get tile glue with grout in it. Then it doesn't have to be so thick and I can work it better with a coarse brush. Marcus cog, thibaultron, Canute and 2 others 5 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying_dutchman2 Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share #251 Posted December 1, 2018 Almost done and pictures will follow. Still need to dye the sails and paint and install the step on the kruibalk. I've been putzing around not doing much. I spent Thanksgiving in the Netherlands at my mother's funeral (I just came back to the US). She was 90. Her brain was no longer working due to late stage Alzheimer, her body was still going strong. I am glad she is gone as it is no way to spend a productive life with Alzheimer, just staring at the wall and no communication whatsoever. (I am pragmatic in this) Marcus thibaultron, Elijah, druxey and 4 others 7 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted December 1, 2018 Share #252 Posted December 1, 2018 I'm sorry to read about the loss of your mother, Marcus. You are right, though: it is no way to live. We went through this journey with my mother-in-law a few years ago. It's hard on everyone. I've learned quite a lot about poldermolen from your log. Thank you! Canute, thibaultron and paulsutcliffe 3 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying_dutchman2 Posted December 1, 2018 Author Share #253 Posted December 1, 2018 1 hour ago, druxey said: I'm sorry to read about the loss of your mother, Marcus. You are right, though: it is no way to live. We went through this journey with my mother-in-law a few years ago. It's hard on everyone. I've learned quite a lot about poldermolen from your log. Thank you! Alzheimer is rough. Several years back we had my wife's father live with us and we experienced first hand seeing someone you love deteriorate over the years until there is nothing their. I'm glad you enjoyed and learned something from the build. It was an education for me as well and still learning from it. Their are so many types of mills and I will continue to build others. Just don't know what to do with them all, put them all in the backyard? Now that would look strange. Their are many people living in the Chicago area from Dutch heritage and maybe sell the finished product to them. Marcus Elijah, Canute, druxey and 1 other 4 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted December 1, 2018 Share #254 Posted December 1, 2018 Alzheimer is hard on every one, whether it is the person itself or the family ... I know first hand as my mother too had it. My sincere condolences Marcus thibaultron, Canute, druxey and 1 other 4 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying_dutchman2 Posted December 2, 2018 Author Share #255 Posted December 2, 2018 27 minutes ago, cog said: My sincere condolences Marcus Thank you, Carl Marcus Canute and thibaultron 2 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thibaultron Posted December 2, 2018 Share #256 Posted December 2, 2018 My condolences, also. One of the worst ways to go. Canute and mtaylor 2 Quote Ron Thibault Shipjack Carrie Price from Pyro kit, with upgraded detailing and history. Going From A 2D Drawing To A 3D Printed Part Tutorial Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted December 2, 2018 Share #257 Posted December 2, 2018 My condolences jan mtaylor, Canute and thibaultron 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying_dutchman2 Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share #258 Posted January 23, 2019 Finished the mill, except for the sails which I still need to dye dark brown. Once the weather is warm (several months from now) I will revisit this build with outside pictures. For now, here are some shots of the finished mill. Crooked brick work. Will be improved with me next mill. Shutters and window. Another window with shutters on the opposite side. Door and step. There is another door and steps on the opposite side. Four small windows. The imitated gray thatch has some yellow ochre painted on to give it some contrast. Wheel with rope. The flag is painted with acrylic. I think it will deteriorate after the first rain. Need to make something with linnen. The beard. Letters were carved out and painted red. It says "Anno 1992" "Stichting Molens". Not all the text fitted on the 'beard'. Did not have a template for smaller letters. Color coded vanes. It is not visible, except if you look closely. It is coded so I know which vane goes where on the copper tubing. Copper tubing without the vanes. My nosey cat. That completes the build. Thank you all for following, giving advice and uploading various beautiful pictures of the different mills the Netherlands has to offer Marcus Jack12477, Canute, amateur and 10 others 13 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andante Posted January 23, 2019 Share #259 Posted January 23, 2019 Good for you Marcus! Stichting Molens.. I like that. thibaultron, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted January 23, 2019 Share #260 Posted January 23, 2019 Job well done Marcus. You can be proud! Canute and thibaultron 2 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtaylor Posted January 23, 2019 Share #261 Posted January 23, 2019 Lovely work, Marcus. This has been both fun and educational to follow. Thanks for letting us look over your shoulder. Canute and thibaultron 2 Quote Mark "The shipwright is slow, but the wood is patient." - me Current Build: Past Builds: La Belle Poule 1765 - French Frigate from ANCRE plans - ON HOLD Triton Cross-Section NRG Hallf Hull Planking Kit HMS Sphinx 1775 - Vanguard Models - 1:64 Non-Ship Model: On hold, maybe forever: CH-53 Sikorsky - 1:48 - Revell - Completed Licorne - 1755 from Hahn Plans (Scratch) Version 2.0 (Abandoned) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying_dutchman2 Posted January 23, 2019 Author Share #262 Posted January 23, 2019 Thanks for the likes. #cog. Besides the plans for this mill that you have, what other ones do you have? What is the difficulty level of them? You mentioned way back that you purchased from penterbak. Marcus mtaylor, Canute, thibaultron and 1 other 4 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted January 26, 2019 Share #263 Posted January 26, 2019 Got 4 or five sets. They are not more or less difficult than this drainage mill. Got them through another site dhm besides that I've got a book on their construction and use with the accompanying plans unfortunately OOP. One of the sets is the 8kante poldermolen so you can still build another 3 thibaultron, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying_dutchman2 Posted January 26, 2019 Author Share #264 Posted January 26, 2019 3 hours ago, cog said: that I've got a book on their construction and use Cog, What is the title of the book? Marcus thibaultron, Canute and mtaylor 3 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Griffith Posted January 26, 2019 Share #265 Posted January 26, 2019 nice work Marcus Canute, mtaylor and thibaultron 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cog Posted January 26, 2019 Share #266 Posted January 26, 2019 the one you've got the pdf from, but without all the drawings thibaultron, mtaylor and Canute 3 Quote Carl "Desperate affairs require desperate measures." Lord Nelson Search and you might find a log ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjors Posted January 27, 2019 Share #267 Posted January 27, 2019 Congrats whit the finish. Great job what you have done! ”de stille genieter” 😆👍 cog, Canute, mtaylor and 1 other 4 Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druxey Posted February 3, 2019 Share #268 Posted February 3, 2019 Nice looking completed windmill, Marcus. Congratulations! Hope it weathers well. It was instructive to learn about the mechanism used to turn the mill. Canute, mtaylor and thibaultron 3 Quote Be sure to sign up for an epic Nelson/Trafalgar project if you would like to see it made into a TV series http://trafalgar.tv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flying_dutchman2 Posted February 4, 2019 Author Share #269 Posted February 4, 2019 # Richard, Sjors and druxey, thank you for the compliments Marcus mtaylor and Canute 2 Quote Current Built: Zeehaen 1639, Dutch Fluit from Dutch explorer Abel J. Tasman Unofficial motto of the VOC: "God is good, but trade is better" Many people believe that Captain J. Cook discovered Australia in 1770. They tend to forget that Dutch mariner Willem Janszoon landed on Australia’s northern coast in 1606. Cook never even sighted the coast of Western Australia). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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