Patrick Haw Posted March 20, 2014 Author #271 Posted March 20, 2014 Thanks Nick, Glenn, Sjors, David, and Lawrence. You're right David, in retrospect it might have been easier to build the whole beakhead structure off the ship and then install a la Yon. Too late now and I think it's going ok. I really am enjoying fitting out the quarter deck and like doing these one-off features. It'll be back to repetitive stuff soon enough, and I'm sure you'll remind me how many clove hitches there are to tie for the ratlines! Patrick Shipyard sid 1 Quote Previous build HMS Victory by Patrick Haw - Caldercraft - Scale: 1/72 Current build HMS Enterprise by Patrick Haw - CAF - Scale 1:48
gjdale Posted March 20, 2014 #272 Posted March 20, 2014 You're doing a fine job there Patrick. What I can't get over is how immaculately clean you manage to keep your ship. The First Lieutenant must be working the men extra hard! Shipyard sid 1 Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
Patrick Haw Posted March 21, 2014 Author #273 Posted March 21, 2014 Thanks Grant. The First Lieutenant calls for sweepers all the time. Well actually he has cases of this stuff stowed below! Patrick Quote Previous build HMS Victory by Patrick Haw - Caldercraft - Scale: 1/72 Current build HMS Enterprise by Patrick Haw - CAF - Scale 1:48
gjdale Posted March 22, 2014 #274 Posted March 22, 2014 Sounds like a great idea Patrick, but have you read the MSDS for this stuff? It looks particularly nasty - I hope you're taking suitable precautions including ventilation and eye/skin protection. Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
Patrick Haw Posted April 4, 2014 Author #275 Posted April 4, 2014 Time for an update. In between doing other (non-Victory) things I've been working on the beakhead bulk head and building the quarterdeck guns. Finished with the beakhead bulkhead I think...perhaps some touching up to do. Fairly pleased with the result. You'll notice that my roundhouses don't have the ports in them yet. I painted and then glazed the ports with Micro Glaze and as I was going to fit one of them it made a desperate escape attempt and launched itself from the work bench, never to be seen again...well not yet anyway. I'm still looking for it! Patrick pilidk, Mirabell61, firdajan and 2 others 5 Quote Previous build HMS Victory by Patrick Haw - Caldercraft - Scale: 1/72 Current build HMS Enterprise by Patrick Haw - CAF - Scale 1:48
Shipyard sid Posted April 4, 2014 #276 Posted April 4, 2014 Hello Patrick Well once again the excellent progress continues. Yes crisp and clean and dustless !!! Cracking work. There's not a great deal else I can say about your build other than it's a pleasure to watch your progress. Keep enjoying it.... DAVID Quote
Glenn-UK Posted April 4, 2014 #277 Posted April 4, 2014 Excellent work once again. My shipyard has just had a major clean as it returning back to its secondary task of being a bedroom when our youngest son comes home tonight for a visit; I'm hoping I can steel and hour or two this weekend to start to fit the port side gun port without lids lining linings. Keep up the good work and keep posting your pictures as they are an inspiration to the inexperienced modeller such as myself. Quote Glenn (UK)
Sjors Posted April 4, 2014 #278 Posted April 4, 2014 Wow Patrick ! You are keeping me surprised with every update ! Great job at the front !!!!!!!! Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
Patrick Haw Posted April 6, 2014 Author #279 Posted April 6, 2014 Thanks David, Glenn, and Sjors. Your comments and encouragement mean a lot and it's a pleasure to be in the company of such good model builders as yourselves. Glenn, for an "inexperienced modeller" you're doing a fantastic job with your Victory. Keep it up and I will be following your progress. Patrick Glenn-UK and Sjors 2 Quote Previous build HMS Victory by Patrick Haw - Caldercraft - Scale: 1/72 Current build HMS Enterprise by Patrick Haw - CAF - Scale 1:48
gjdale Posted April 6, 2014 #280 Posted April 6, 2014 More lovely work Patrick, and as spotless as ever I see! Quote Grant ____________________________________________________ Current builds: African Queen - Radio Control / Live Steam Previous builds: The Shipyard at Foss' Landing (Diorama), Hannah - Ship in a Bottle, NRG Capstan Project, 1869 Allerton Steam Pumper, Medway Longboat , Alfa Romeo Spider Gran Touring (Pocher) , Da Vinci Flying Machine, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout - Dumas - Radio, Bomb Vessel Granado, 1742 - Cross Section - Scratchbuild, HMS Victory (Mamoli 1:90), Cutty Sark, Armed Pinnace, Bounty, Santa Maria At another place: Stephenson's Rocket (OcCre 1:24) (click the title to follow the link) In the Gallery: Lancia Armata 1803, Bomb Vessel Granada, 1742 Cross Section, 1949 Chris Craft 19' Racing Runabout
Patrick Haw Posted April 21, 2014 Author #281 Posted April 21, 2014 Not really an update, but I have a question for my fellow Caldercraft Victory builders. I've made all the quarterdeck guns and carronades but have decided not to fix and rig them yet, but to wait and work on the bows and stern before doing so. I've started on the bows and dry-fitting the bow curved rails and the hair bracket and lower bow cheek rails (above and below the hawse holes). While the instructions say to fit the hawse bolsters against the lower bow cheek rail, they make no mention of what else is fitted between the hair brackets and lower bow cheek rails. It's obvious from the manual photos and everone else's build logs that the space between the hair bracket and lower bow cheek rails is planked with something, but the manual doesn't mention it at all. So, what is it? Thanks for any help. Patrick Quote Previous build HMS Victory by Patrick Haw - Caldercraft - Scale: 1/72 Current build HMS Enterprise by Patrick Haw - CAF - Scale 1:48
PrimoDude Posted April 21, 2014 #282 Posted April 21, 2014 Patrick.. even though I am a novice ...maybe a suggestion here. When dry fitting as you suggest, in those tight area's I wonder if one should not tie a safety line to the item your working with. Is it possible for you to locate this ladder via a flexible light or a mini type flexible telescope and retrieve it that way?? I am about to order the 1.72 scale Victory..so I am very interested in these builds.. errors and good parts too. Thanks.. "Woody" PS.. I was also a machinist, and have woodworking skills.. other than that, this is the first build, and perhaps my last as well. Quote HMS Victory 1804 Caldercraft scale 1.72 (not 1.75) Build start, May 1, 2014.
Patrick Haw Posted April 24, 2014 Author #283 Posted April 24, 2014 Hello Woody, and thanks for visiting my log. You're right about having some sort of "safety net" when dry fitting or installing the fiddly bits that can disappear. The ladder though is gone, gone, gone, somewhere on the middle gun deck and irretrievable. I made a new companionway ladder and took extra care when fitting it. It's solidly glued in place now! Good luck when you start your Victory build. Please start a log so we can follow your progress. There are plenty of Victory experts here to help you if you get stuck! Good luck! Patrick PrimoDude 1 Quote Previous build HMS Victory by Patrick Haw - Caldercraft - Scale: 1/72 Current build HMS Enterprise by Patrick Haw - CAF - Scale 1:48
PrimoDude Posted May 1, 2014 #284 Posted May 1, 2014 Hello Patrick...Thanks for the words of cheer and support on the HMS Victory 1.72 build. I will rely on this group heavily in the future. The HMS Victory 1.72 will arrive in my UPS Express port sometime today. :-) And due to the 7 days of rain, my building port is not ready yet. Today I hope to finish my spray painting of the storage base, and with luck moved to my computer room for assembly. My building itch is getting scratched, and my enduring wife has fallen into acceptance mode. Whew. Relief. Its a short move to the outdoors for any sanding details (maybe) as well as a small vacuum will be nearby should I need to do dirty stuff in the room. :-) I will be doing a written work day by work day log of the build, as well as photos (only if it goes well) of the progress. :-) Best to you on the rest of your build. I will be watching and reviewing your past progress. "Woody" Quote HMS Victory 1804 Caldercraft scale 1.72 (not 1.75) Build start, May 1, 2014.
peterwwebster Posted June 16, 2014 #285 Posted June 16, 2014 I have just worked my way through the 20 pages of your amazing log and I am not sure if I am dreading or revelling in the pending arival of my Victory. I have almost finished the Billing Nordcap and i am very pleased with the result so I decided for better or worse to invest in a major modelling project. I am delighted to find your site and I hope to be able to refer to it constantly as the need arises. Many thanks for sharing your knowledge. I will see if I can keep a build log just in case. Just as an aside many years ago I was in Portsmouth with two friends on busines. Our plans were cancelled so we went to the dockyard and we were all gazing in awe at the stern planking when a navy officer heard us discussing how hard it must have been to build. He turned out to be the Officer of the Day, and invited us on board when the ship closed. We spent a very interesting time with a private tour of the ship, even stepping over the barriers in Nelsons cabin, and a few too many rums in the ward room. Fancy me now looking at dealing with those three dimensional curved planks!!! Wish me luck Quote Caldercraft Victory
Patrick Haw Posted June 18, 2014 Author #286 Posted June 18, 2014 Thank you Peter for your kind words. I haven't posted lately, but still been working away on the ship. Will post some pictures of my (slow) progress soon. Good luck with your Victory and I'll look forward to seeing your build log. Patrick Quote Previous build HMS Victory by Patrick Haw - Caldercraft - Scale: 1/72 Current build HMS Enterprise by Patrick Haw - CAF - Scale 1:48
Mirabell61 Posted June 18, 2014 #287 Posted June 18, 2014 very nice build Patrick, I enjoy your Progress... Nils Quote Current builds -Lightship Elbe 1 Completed - Steamship Ergenstrasse ex Laker Corsicana 1918- scale 1:87 scratchbuild - "Zeesboot" heritage wooden fishing small craft around 1870, POB clinker scratch build scale 1:24 - Pilot Schooner # 5 ELBE ex Wanderbird, scale 1:50 scratchbuild - Mississippi Sterwheelsteamer built as christmapresent for grandson modified kit build - Chebec "Eagle of Algier" 1753--scale 1:48-POB-(scratchbuild) "SS Kaiser Wilhelm der Grosse" four stacker passenger liner of 1897, blue ribbond awarded, 1:144 (scratchbuild) "HMS Pegasus" , 16 gun sloop, Swan-Class 1776-1777 scale 1:64 from Amati plan -"Pamir" 4-mast barque, P-liner, 1:96 (scratchbuild) -"Gorch Fock 2" German Navy cadet training 3-mast barque, 1:95 (scratchbuild) "Heinrich Kayser" heritage Merchant Steamship, 1:96 (scratchbuild) original was my grandfathers ship -"Bohuslän" , heritage ,live Swedish museum passenger steamer (Billings kit), 1:50 "Lorbas", river tug, steam driven for RC, fictive design (scratchbuild), scale appr. 1:32 under restoration / restoration finished "Hjejlen" steam paddlewheeler, 1861, Billings Boats rare old kit, scale 1:50
peterwwebster Posted June 22, 2014 #288 Posted June 22, 2014 Ok The kit arived and I am in awe! However I have been busy reading the books, looking at plans, the JoTiKa web site and the build logs so all is becoming clear!!!!! I am just finishing my Billing Nordkap before laying the keel on Victory. I have lots of thoughts going on pending a start but one has propted a question - on rigging. I feel the white rigging looks wrong. Its is too white. Most ropes I have seen on ships are not bright white. I tried weak tea & coffee on the Nordkap which results in a slight dirty look which I think looks more realistic but I wondered what the experts think. Also the rope are too stiff and arte not heavy enough to drape naturally. The standing rigging is not a problem as it is tight but what do you do about running rigging etc which is supposed to hang in a graceful curve. Quote Caldercraft Victory
Glenn-UK Posted June 22, 2014 #289 Posted June 22, 2014 Peter Have a look at Gil' s Victory build log as he has plenty of advice about staining the rigging. Quote Glenn (UK)
peterwwebster Posted June 23, 2014 #290 Posted June 23, 2014 Wow I had a quick look and !!! Looks like a good build to follow so thanks for the tip I opened the box and went through it numbering the ply parts, I cant wait to get going. Must finish the Nordkap or my wife will not be best pleased. Quote Caldercraft Victory
peterwwebster Posted July 15, 2014 #291 Posted July 15, 2014 Help. I am confused, I am shaping the bulkheads before planking the hull. I have marked the bearding line and see that the back edge of the keel needs to be 2mm and the keel forward of the bearding line is left full thickness, 5mm ply. Do I file the keel only front to back so the angle on the line of the keel is shallow but the angle higher up the keel post line is steeper? The photos on the kit manufacturers web site seem to show the keel on the stern post line full thickness and the first planking in place. This suggests the keel has not been shaped. Any guidancewould be appriciated. In the meantime i will trawl the buld logs Thanks Quote Caldercraft Victory
mikec Posted July 19, 2014 #292 Posted July 19, 2014 Beautiful work Patrick Quote Curently working on: Finishing details to Victory http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/4931-mamoli-victory-by-mikec-final-finishing/ Eaglemoss Endeavour http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/topic/3078-hmb-endeavour-by-mikec-eaglemoss/page-4 Previous build: HMS Victory http://modelshipworld.com/index.php?/gallery/member/5894-mikec/
peterwwebster Posted July 23, 2014 #293 Posted July 23, 2014 Hi Can anyone please tell me why I cant see the photos on this page? I can see the space and title eg Victory 154.jpeg but unlike the pages before this and much later I cannot actually see the photos. It is a shame note to be able to see all the hard work Peter Quote Caldercraft Victory
Sjors Posted July 24, 2014 #294 Posted July 24, 2014 Hi Peter, Some of the pictures are gone ,that's correct. There was something going on with a update from the server. So at all the logs on that time there are no pictures anymore. A lot of builders has putting them back when they have those pictures on the PC. I'll just ask it for you...... Patrick my friend..... Will you please post back the missing pictures from your build log ? It is a guide for a lot of builders who also want to build the Victory from Caldecraft. And it is such a great log that we want to see all of it ! Thanks my friend Quote Currend builds: USS Constitution by Sjors - Model Shipways - Scale 1:76 HMS Victory by Sjors - Jotika - Scale 1:72 On hold: VOC Reconnaisance yacht Duyfken by Sjors - Kolderstok - Scale 1:50 Finished builds: HMS Snake (1797) by Sjors - Caldercraft - Scale 1:64 Nuestra Señora del Pilar by Sjors & Anja - OcCre - Scale 1:64 H.M. Brig-Sloop Flirt 1782 by Sjors - Vanguard Models - Scale 1:64 HMS Agamemnon by Sjors - Caldercraft / Jotika - 1:64 San Ildefonso - OcCre Le Mirage - Corel Smit Rotterdam (sea tug) - Billing Boats - 1:75 Sovereign of the seas - De Agostini Spirit of Mississippi - OcCre Santissima Trinidad - OcCre Corsair - OcCre
Patrick Haw Posted July 26, 2014 Author #295 Posted July 26, 2014 Hello Peter and Sjors. I haven't posted anything for ages, but am making progress on Victory and will post new pictures soon. In the meantime I checked and there are 31 pictures in my log that have fone missing. So I will start to repost them. Just the pictures I'm afraid, not explanation of what's going on, but I hipe whoever is interested will be able to slot them into where they went missing from and make some sense of it. This will take a few posts. Patrick yvesvidal and Sjors 2 Quote Previous build HMS Victory by Patrick Haw - Caldercraft - Scale: 1/72 Current build HMS Enterprise by Patrick Haw - CAF - Scale 1:48
Patrick Haw Posted July 26, 2014 Author #296 Posted July 26, 2014 Next round of missing pictures Sjors and yvesvidal 2 Quote Previous build HMS Victory by Patrick Haw - Caldercraft - Scale: 1/72 Current build HMS Enterprise by Patrick Haw - CAF - Scale 1:48
Patrick Haw Posted July 26, 2014 Author #297 Posted July 26, 2014 And more missing pictures Sjors and Aussie048 2 Quote Previous build HMS Victory by Patrick Haw - Caldercraft - Scale: 1/72 Current build HMS Enterprise by Patrick Haw - CAF - Scale 1:48
Patrick Haw Posted July 26, 2014 Author #298 Posted July 26, 2014 This is the last post of the missing pictures. All 31 of them are now back here on my log. Apologies to those who'd already seen them and moved on, but I hope they are helpful to anyone who was unable to see them before. Although I haven't posted anything new lately, I am about finished with the bow, have installed the poop deck and am closing in on finishing the quarter galleries and stern fascia. Will take some pics and post soon...promise! Patrick Aussie048, GuntherMT, Sjors and 4 others 7 Quote Previous build HMS Victory by Patrick Haw - Caldercraft - Scale: 1/72 Current build HMS Enterprise by Patrick Haw - CAF - Scale 1:48
peterwwebster Posted July 26, 2014 #299 Posted July 26, 2014 Hi Patrick Thanks for the pics. I need all the help I can get with this kit. Yours is a work of art Peter Quote Caldercraft Victory
Kevin Posted July 26, 2014 #300 Posted July 26, 2014 looking through them - it brings back all the good times (and bad) in building mine Quote Its all part of Kev's journey, bit like going to the dark side, but with the lights on All the best Kevin SAY NO TO PIRACY. SUPPORT ORIGINAL IDEAS AND MANUFACTURERS. KEEP IT REAL! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On the build table HMS Indefatigable 1794 by Kevin - Vanguard Models - 1:64 - Feb 2023 Belle Poule 1834 by Kevin - OcCre - 1/90 - French frigate - started June 2024 - - On hold MHS Britannic by Kevin SD 14 - Marcle Models - 1/70 - March 2022 - Bluebell - Flower Class - Revel - 1/72 U552 German U Boat - Trumpeter - 1/48 Amerigo Vespucci 1/84 - Panart- HMS Enterprise -CAF - 1/48 Finished Hercules by Kevin - OcCre - 1/50 - Tugboat - Finished - May 2024 Nectan-Mountfleet-models-steam-trawler-1/32 - Completed June 2020 HMS Victory - Caldercraft/Jotika - 1/72 - Finished Dorade renamed Dora by Kevin - Amati - 1/20 - Completed March 2021 Stage Coach 1848 - Artesania Latina - 1/10 -Finished Lady Eleanor by Kevin - FINISHED - Vanguard Models - 1/64 - Fifie fishing boat
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